CatNtheHat Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 What a lame insult. Hes just mad that I don't agree with dating 1st graders.
Hazel_eyes Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 You had a negative experience with an older man, we get it. That doesn't mean that every man who likes younger women is a 'predator'. That's ludicrous. Women in the 17-21 range are in their prime physically, so it's natural to find them more attractive than older women. They also haven't yet been sufficiently brainwashed with the crap that passes for "education" these days and don't carry the bitterness that comes with multiple failed relationships. That's also attractive. In the past, it would have been highly unusual for a woman to remain unmarried by the age of 20. There was a good reason for that. I didn't say that any man who likes a woman younger than him is a predator. Where did I say that? I do think, however, that there is a big difference between 17 and 30 and it is just not appropriate. I find it interesting that you singled me out, the only one who had an experience, yet I am not the only one who mentioned this as predatory.
Author SuperElan Posted August 11, 2011 Author Posted August 11, 2011 His thinking is "if they come to me, then it's ok." It's not that he is against dating women who are +-5 years of our age, it's just that he hasn't anytime in the past few years. He seems to constantly concentrate on the younger ones, even if he isn't dating them.
ptp Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 You've answered your own question. There are men who never grow up so they don't have any problem with dating women who are immature or maturing. There is a small but, significant difference. A woman who is 18,19,20 is immature but, also changing and growing a lot. Older guys can be immature (my self included:laugh:) but usually aren't changing or growing. I could see if the older guy is going back to school or something like that but if not that older guy is just immature and that is who is going to be.
Mr. Savage Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 What about rich men who are 60 and date 25 year olds? Of course if she is 17 then it is not cool but any girl over 18 is fair game. Some women dig older men, is this so shocking?
Author SuperElan Posted August 11, 2011 Author Posted August 11, 2011 Agreed with the lady here. I didn't say that any man who likes a woman younger than him is a predator. Where did I say that? I do think, however, that there is a big difference between 17 and 30 and it is just not appropriate. I find it interesting that you singled me out, the only one who had an experience, yet I am not the only one who mentioned this as predatory.
ptp Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 IMO age matters less the older one gets. I see less of a problem with a 37 year old man with a 27 year old woman than a 29 year old man with 19 year old woman.
Hazel_eyes Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 IMO age matters less the older one gets. I see less of a problem with a 37 year old man with a 27 year old woman than a 29 year old man with 19 year old woman. I do agree with this ^
CatNtheHat Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 What about rich men who are 60 and date 25 year olds? Of course if she is 17 then it is not cool but any girl over 18 is fair game. Some women dig older men, is this so shocking? I think some men go after younger women because they are intimidated by women their own age. Either by success or they know women their own age won't put up with the bs he may throw at her. A younger woman/girl will be dumb to no experience, so he can "get away" with more.
Author SuperElan Posted August 11, 2011 Author Posted August 11, 2011 It's not shocking, but, to me (and some others) it's bothersome. Remember what you were like at 18? Or 20? I often try to remind my friend what we were like at 20, f'n about, smoking, drinking, clubbing till 6am. And we did that for a good 5-6 years!! But now we're way more mature, we don't do that stuff anymore, but he keeps going for girls who are just being exposed to that. What does he expect to happen with a girl so young? Even if they are hella cute, they're emotionally immature. SEVERELY emotionally immature. What about rich men who are 60 and date 25 year olds? Of course if she is 17 then it is not cool but any girl over 18 is fair game. Some women dig older men, is this so shocking?
Hazel_eyes Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 It's not shocking, but, to me (and some others) it's bothersome. Remember what you were like at 18? Or 20? I often try to remind my friend what we were like at 20, f'n about, smoking, drinking, clubbing till 6am. And we did that for a good 5-6 years!! But now we're way more mature, we don't do that stuff anymore, but he keeps going for girls who are just being exposed to that. What does he expect to happen with a girl so young? Even if they are hella cute, they're emotionally immature. SEVERELY emotionally immature. You are right, and truly he should avoid the whole situation for his own safety as well. What if he accidentally got one pregnant? There are just so many scenarios that could happen that wouldn't be a happy ending for him or the girl he was interested in.
Feelsgoodman Posted August 12, 2011 Posted August 12, 2011 Before you take anymore shots at the US's school system you should realize that research universities in the US conduct more research and publish more scientific papers than any other country in the world. Only a small percentage of Americans attend these first-rate research universities. The average Joe and Jane attend a crappy state university or liberal arts college.
ptp Posted August 12, 2011 Posted August 12, 2011 Only a small percentage of Americans attend these first-rate research universities. The average Joe and Jane attend a crappy state university or liberal arts college. Regardless of the %, the raw # of students participating in undergrad and grad research is still higher than any other country. The $ spent on research and volume of published scientific papers in unmatched. Furthermore, a quick perusal of Wikipedia shows that the US has 326 Nobel laureates which is more than 2x as the next closest country.
SJC2008 Posted August 12, 2011 Posted August 12, 2011 I'm 29 and will be the big three-oh by years end. My roomate is 27 and goes out with a 19year old. They are all over each other. I think it's kind of weird but they get along great and he doesn't really look 27. But I can tell her age because she gets on my nerves lol! Most men prefer younger as do I, but to a lesser extent (24, 23 pushing it) because IMO most women age horribly (sorry ladies) and I would like to have kids one day . Out of curiosity I looked mens profiles my age on dating sites and most of them were 21+ some 18+. IMO, most women will grow into the "woman" they will be for the rest of their lives by the age of 24.
Feelsgoodman Posted August 12, 2011 Posted August 12, 2011 Regardless of the %, the raw # of students participating in undergrad and grad research is still higher than any other country. The $ spent on research and volume of published scientific papers in unmatched. Furthermore, a quick perusal of Wikipedia shows that the US has 326 Nobel laureates which is more than 2x as the next closest country. A quick perusal of wikipedia also shows that the U.S. has more than 10x as many inbred rednecks, drug dealers, prison inmates and "aspiring hip hop artists" as the next closest country. And I'm pretty sure these groups outnumber the Nobel laureates by a wide margin
ptp Posted August 12, 2011 Posted August 12, 2011 A quick perusal of wikipedia also shows that the U.S. has more than 10x as many inbred rednecks, drug dealers, prison inmates and "aspiring hip hop artists" as the next closest country. And I'm pretty sure these groups outnumber the Nobel laureates by a wide margin So you lose the argument and try to change the subject. Nice. Look at your computer. More than likely everything you are using to access this LoveShack was originally designed or created in the US including: your mouse the web browser you are using the operating system that the web browser runs on the cpu that runs the operating system and the network that you use to access the site Not to bad for an educational system huh?
zengirl Posted August 12, 2011 Posted August 12, 2011 Honestly, while I find older men who SEEK out solely young, young (like barely legal) women creepy in general, what I find creepier in the description is that this guy prefers women young + uneducated and drunk. . . Add it all together and you get a really clear picture. There was a guy on here who was nearly 30 and met a girl (while volunteering or something) who happened to be 19, but he had no idea at the time, and he felt weird about it even though she was awesome and mature. He wasn't into her naivete, lack of education, and looking to get her wasted, and I think I even said, "Hey, if you just stumbled upon her and she's cool with it, not creepy at all, even though that much older wouldn't have been my cuppa at that age. Go for it." But the guy in this OP sounds shady. IMO age matters less the older one gets. I see less of a problem with a 37 year old man with a 27 year old woman than a 29 year old man with 19 year old woman. This is also true. 37/27 seems totally within the normal range to me, even though, again, it's older than I'd go. Both are fully formed people at those ages.
ptp Posted August 12, 2011 Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) The people who designed everything in my computer are either dead or old. I am talking about the new generation of Americans - people who are under 40. The new generation of Americans does not even study sciences. Go to any top level American university and you will find that the majority of science/computer science/engineering students are either immigrants or foreign students. It's no wonder your country is rapidly going down the toilet and is set to become a third world nation within the next decade or two. If you need more proof that the average Americans under 40 has the intelligence level of Forrest Gump, just turn on the TV and watching ANYTHING...a sitcom, a reality TV show, MTV, CNN...These shows are designed to appeal to the widest possible audience...and that audience is apparently comprised of borderline clinically retarded specimen. Just shows your ignorance. You know nothing about the educational system. I already told you that the US spends far more $ on research than any country and that the US publishes far more research papers than any other country. That means currently not 40 years ago. While there are a high % immigrants in the CS/EE fields where do you think those guys go for jobs? Seeing that I am a CS graduate let me tell you. They go work for Google, Facebook, Microsoft and Apple. Once they get jobs they become US citizens. That is only 1 research field. What about biology, chemistry physics, medicine etc... plenty of non-immigrant US students doing graduate research in those fields. The US is the world leader in producing medical technology and pharmaceuticals. The US's GDP via the world bank: 14,582,400 which is more than all of the EU: 12,174,523 and more than 2x the next closet country: China 5,878,629 More than whatever country you are originally from huh? So read and learn something before mouthing off. Edited August 12, 2011 by ptp
Feelsgoodman Posted August 12, 2011 Posted August 12, 2011 The US's GDP via the world bank: 14,582,400 which is more than all of the EU: 12,174,523 and more than 2x the next closet country: China 5,878,629 So read and learn something before mouthing off. I suggest you look up another number....namely, the foreign debt. How many other countries have a foreign debt approaching $15 trillion and an annual trade deficit of over $1 trillion ? Your country has become a joke and is living on borrowed time. And that's not going to last much longer seeing how your national debt has basically been downgraded to junk bond status. So read and learn something before mouthing off.
ptp Posted August 12, 2011 Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) I suggest you look up another number....namely, the foreign debt. How many other countries have a foreign debt approaching $15 trillion and an annual trade deficit of over $1 trillion ? Your country has become a joke and is living on borrowed time. And that's not going to last much longer seeing how your national debt has basically been downgraded to junk bond status. So read and learn something before mouthing off. Yea a joke yet out produces any other country in the world by more than double? What is your country's GDP? Like I said you lost the argument and now are changing the subject . I believe we were talking about the US educational system right? So next time you want talk sh** about the US educational system come with some knowledge or don't talk otherwise I will continue to embarrass you. Edited August 12, 2011 by ptp
Dust Posted August 12, 2011 Posted August 12, 2011 Honestly, while I find older men who SEEK out solely young, young (like barely legal) women creepy in general, what I find creepier in the description is that this guy prefers women young + uneducated and drunk. . . Add it all together and you get a really clear picture. There was a guy on here who was nearly 30 and met a girl (while volunteering or something) who happened to be 19, but he had no idea at the time, and he felt weird about it even though she was awesome and mature. He wasn't into her naivete, lack of education, and looking to get her wasted, and I think I even said, "Hey, if you just stumbled upon her and she's cool with it, not creepy at all, even though that much older wouldn't have been my cuppa at that age. Go for it." But the guy in this OP sounds shady. This is also true. 37/27 seems totally within the normal range to me, even though, again, it's older than I'd go. Both are fully formed people at those ages. You’re so Zen some times zengirl. Other times you join the crowd. I personally would like to give advice to the OP not to judge his friend first and foremost. Second if you are 30 and want to get a girl drunk and have lots of sex I really don’t see the big difference between going after a 19 year old or a 29 year old. You go after people you are attracted to. I do think it would be pointless to specifically go after younger girls, but the OP clarified and it’s more like he’s just cool with dating younger girls and that they some times come on to him. I could also easily see it working out that a particular person would be mostly attracted to younger women. As for 17 year olds its very legal in many places. If it’s illegal then it’s a bad gamble especially since they consider it a form of rape. Other then that I’d have no problem dating an 18 year old if I liked her. Men who buy into this “creep” nonsense are truly damned by themselves.
Feelsgoodman Posted August 12, 2011 Posted August 12, 2011 Yea a joke yet out produces any other country in the world by more than double? What is your country's GDP? Like I said you lost the argument and now are changing the subject . I believe we were talking about the US educational system right? So next time you want talk sh** about the US educational system come with some knowledge or don't talk otherwise I will continue to embarrass you. Okay, big boy. Carry on "embarrassing" me with your pointless stats. The facts speak for themselves, though. U.S. national debt was just downgraded to junk bond status. The majority of Americans are obese slobs. The public education system is crap (the average American can't find Canada or Mexico on a map). Junk bonds, junk food, junk education - the whole country is junk!
ptp Posted August 12, 2011 Posted August 12, 2011 Okay, big boy. Carry on "embarrassing" me with your pointless stats. The facts speak for themselves, though. U.S. national debt was just downgraded to junk bond status. The majority of Americans are obese slobs. The public education system is crap (the average American can't find Canada or Mexico on a map). Junk bonds, junk food, junk education - the whole country is junk! Awww you sound mad because you lost . Want to keep talking about the educational system or do you give up?
AHardDaysNight Posted August 12, 2011 Posted August 12, 2011 There is something seriously wrong with an adult man lusting after children. Yes, I said it...children. They may be adults legally, but they still are kids mentally. I am 28, and I wouldn't date anybody under 21 years of age.
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