Woggle Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 Yep. Just look at the reality shows on TV these days. Bubble headed bleached blondes with plastic tits with these ancient relics loaded with cash and all their brains in their Viagara riddled penis. These two deserve each other.
serial muse Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 I believe that a cheap person is stingy in other ways too. Cheap people tend to be cold, mean people as well. When I was younger, I dated men who took me to Mickey D's (tacky!) and complained about the cost. I also dated a man who only took me on one date the whole time we were together and refused to pick me up because of gas money. If I had more self esteem back then, I would have left him immediately, instead of doing things to try to get him to love me, like cooking and cleaning. He didn't think I was worth spending money on, he just wanted to use me for sex. By the time I met my husband, I was jaded about men. I refused to date another cheap ass, because of my horrible experience from Mr. Tightwad. Luckily, my husband is a gentleman. He only let me pay once in a great while. To me, the truly tacky thing about the McDonald's experience is that the guy was complaining about the cost - but then, I would also think it's tacky to take someone anywhere and then complain about the cost. Way to ruin the experience for everyone, jackhole. If you're going to pay, then pay with a happy heart. Don't whip out the cash and then complain about it. Who needs it? I take my BF out all the time and I do it because it makes him feel good to be treated. He takes me out too, for the same reason. Growling over the check negates the whole thing. Do, or do not. On another note: I have absolutely no problem with other people living their (dating) lives however they want. But it really does disturb me that there is some implication here that if a woman pays, that means that a) she doesn't respect herself enough; and/or b) the guy is a cheapskate/not manly. Horsecrap. Those things MIGHT be true, sure. But then, they both MIGHT be true even if the guy pays. There is simply NO WAY that anyone can make such a snap judgment of people or their relationships based on that one piece of data. There are too many other variables, and that is how it SHOULD BE.
Author CatNtheHat Posted August 11, 2011 Author Posted August 11, 2011 On another note: I have absolutely no problem with other people living their (dating) lives however they want. But it really does disturb me that there is some implication here that if a woman pays, that means that a) she doesn't respect herself enough; and/or b) the guy is a cheapskate/not manly. There is nothing wrong with a woman paying, IMO. Especially if she did the asking out for the date. But I can't understand why a man would ask a woman out and than let her pay. That to me..makes a guy a cheapskate/not a gentleman.
rafallus Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 It's really not that simple though. Both people don't always have the money to pay for a date as I've said several times earlier and as someone else pointed out, what if one of them was rich and the other wasn't and wanted to go to a nice restaurant? =/ Really, it should be, whoever has money should be the one who pays. If its both people, then both people can pay. I make very little money . . . . the most I've ever made is minimum wage, but I also always have much less bills to pay than any boyfriend I ever have, so while they tend to make more and are usually broke, I'm the one taking them to nice restaurants because I'm the one who usually has spending money.I have used various models in my life: 1. You pay for X, I pay for Y. 2. You pay for entire event. My turn next time. 3. You pay for all, I did you a favor back then (explicitly stated, often just after the favor). Never had a problem. Did I come exactly even? Probably not. Do I care? Not a bit. Regardless, not knowing the background situation, paying for myself is the best bet. Then again, I don't go to extra expensive restaurants in the first place...
Sanman Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 Why does it have to be a "400 restaurant". How about a place like Chilis or Olive Garden? But to take a woman your trying to impress to McDonald's? Cmon. Why does a man have to impress her? I would never take a date to chilis or Olive garden either as I hate chain restaurants, but there is nothing wrong with them. However, I have the means to afford better. If a guy is going to pay, he has the right to choose a place he can afford. If that is McDonald's then it is that. If it is nicer it is nicer. Now, we have gotten to a point where people are not only judging that a man should pay, but feel they are entitled to how nice the place should be. A guy shouldn't complain if he picked the place and is paying. However, a woman getting a free meal shouldn't judge a guy for the place he picked. If you want nicer, offer to go dutch at a nicer place.
Author CatNtheHat Posted August 11, 2011 Author Posted August 11, 2011 Why does a man have to impress her? I would never take a date to chilis or Olive garden either as I hate chain restaurants, but there is nothing wrong with them. However, I have the means to afford better. If a guy is going to pay, he has the right to choose a place he can afford. If that is McDonald's then it is that. If it is nicer it is nicer. Now, we have gotten to a point where people are not only judging that a man should pay, but feel they are entitled to how nice the place should be. A guy shouldn't complain if he picked the place and is paying. However, a woman getting a free meal shouldn't judge a guy for the place he picked. If you want nicer, offer to go dutch at a nicer place. So when you go out with a woman your are not putting your best foot forward? sorry but if you are, that is "impressing" her. Oh and McDonalds isn't acceptable.
donnamaybe Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 When my man and I started dating, yes - he took me to a pro football game ('cause he knows I love my football!) and bought me flowers after we first said "I love you" to each other, but the kind of things that really impress me the most was this example: We were at an outdoor party and were sitting in lawn chairs. It had rained that a.m. so the ground was damp and a bit dirty in spots. I started to put my purse down and he stopped me and warned me about the messy ground and offered to hold my purse in his lap. He was and still is very attentive, and it doesn't cost him a dime.
serial muse Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 When my man and I started dating, yes - he took me to a pro football game ('cause he knows I love my football!) and bought me flowers after we first said "I love you" to each other, but the kind of things that really impress me the most was this example: We were at an outdoor party and were sitting in lawn chairs. It had rained that a.m. so the ground was damp and a bit dirty in spots. I started to put my purse down and he stopped me and warned me about the messy ground and offered to hold my purse in his lap. He was and still is very attentive, and it doesn't cost him a dime. aw. thoughtfulness = priceless
Sanman Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 So when you go out with a woman your are not putting your best foot forward? sorry but if you are, that is "impressing" her. Oh and McDonalds isn't acceptable. No, I am not trying to impress her. I am getting to know her and she is getting to know me. I don't include sham gestures to impress her at the beginning. Anything I give I do out of appreciation and would happily do for the tenure of our relationship. Mcdonalds is unacceptable to YOU. Clearly, enchanted girl and others do not feel do entitled.
Art_Critic Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 who did it. You did of course .. unless you weren't the one posting with your ID
GorillaTheater Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 the mod did it and somebody told the mod to do it. whos the mod and who told the mod. You have an entitlement complex.
Art_Critic Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 your the one with an entitlement complex No.. he is the one with the unrestricted account...
GorillaTheater Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 your the one with an entitlement complex No, you are. But to answer your earlier question, I think ArtCritic is the mod.
Art_Critic Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 No, you are. But to answer your earlier question, I think ArtCritic is the mod. Sure.. throw me under the bus, that just makes you entitled
Art_Critic Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 whos the mod Having trouble reading ?.. you might want to look up the page and re-read what he wrote
serial muse Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 none of you are the mod but you have feminist ideas you might call us mod-ern.
Art_Critic Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 none of you are the mod serial muse is the mod...
GorillaTheater Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 Sure.. throw me under the bus, that just makes you entitled Well, yeah, but there's nothing terribly complex about it. Oh, and there's a couple of other folks I'd like for you to ban, when you have a moment.
serial muse Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 serial muse is the mod... maybe...but in return, i ask you, who's on first??
Art_Critic Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 maybe...but in return, i ask you, who's on first?? What is of course .. no he is on 3rd..
serial muse Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 is catnthehat a mod. no, she's our shortstop!
GorillaTheater Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 is catnthehat a mod. I'm pretty sure she is. You should probably apologize to her before she bans you again.
Art_Critic Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 I'm pretty sure she is. You should probably apologize to her before she bans you again. In fact RP8.. you should apologize to all women here because they are all mods ..
GorillaTheater Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 they should apologize to me. especially catnthehate afishwithabike sallyforsara and all of em I know. It's times like this when you wish David Cain was a mod. Now there's a level-headed guy.
Author CatNtheHat Posted August 11, 2011 Author Posted August 11, 2011 i made a thread asking why she banned me. she was the one who did it. what is a mod? and I don't have any power to ban you...
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