CatNtheHat Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 I am not sure what the exact definition of a "open" relationship is but, I don't believe I have one with my GF. I wouldn't consider it cheating if my GF made out with her friend. In fact like I said in my post I wanted my GF to make out with this girl but, since my GF was vehemently against it, I stepped in and stopped it. How old are you? Maybe its an age thing. I'm 32 and I would never do that. I think its disturbing that you would want your gf to do that. Just sayin.
ptp Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 How old are you? Maybe its an age thing. I'm 32 and I would never do that. I think its disturbing that you would want your gf to do that. Just sayin. I am old enough to be in a mature adult relationship with a woman. I find it disturbing that you are so judgmental about how other people define their relationships. Just sayin.
CatNtheHat Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 I am old enough to be in a mature adult relationship with a woman. I find it disturbing that you are so judgmental about how other people define their relationships. Just sayin. I think most people define kissing as cheating.
CatNtheHat Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 I'm guessing you are probably in the 18-25 yr old category. That would explain alot. You will probably feel differently about this topic in 5 years.
Hot Chick Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 I am not sure what the exact definition of a "open" relationship is but, I don't believe I have one with my GF. I wouldn't consider it cheating if my GF made out with her friend. In fact like I said in my post I wanted my GF to make out with this girl but, since my GF was vehemently against it, I stepped in and stopped it. Well you said you asked them to kiss and they did. If that's not for attention, I don't know what else is. They were obviously wanting to get your attention. Doesn't mean they were interested, they just enjoyed the attention.
threebyfate Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Since when are back massages intimate, unless they were using a bottle of mazola and a plastic sheet. It's possible one of the girls was experiencing back pain.
Disillusioned_Wife Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Dude stop asking questions, you are going to ruin it for the rest of us. I'm sorry that was...awesome. LOL OP: Women are just like that, it has nothing to do with sexuality either way. We are creatures who enjoy each others company without the sexual labels. We are comfortable in being in physical contact without attaching a sexual connotation to the act of being in physical contact. It doesn't mean two straight women are "playing" bisexual or lesbian...that was an interesting post...lol
Disillusioned_Wife Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 How old are you? Maybe its an age thing. I'm 32 and I would never do that. I think its disturbing that you would want your gf to do that. Just sayin. Sorry, we're both 32 and if there is permission and full disclosure between all people involved (including the spouses of the two girls kissing) I don't believe it is cheating (and this coming from a BS lol) neither do I think any gender combination with permission, full disclosure and awareness from all corners is cheating. Cheating is changing the dynamics of the relationship without full disclosure, consent or knowledge from the unknowing spouse or partner which indeed includes kissing, flirting, sex of any kind, touching, etc etc.
jk876 Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 I agree with the first reply that I read which said that whenever she goes out to a club with her friends, she dances with them as opposed to guys because guys are too grabby etc. Sometimes it's just more fun dancing with the girls when I just want to have some good old fashioned fun!! Haha, but really. I like it sometimes As far as the back massage situation goes, I had friends who did that all the time but it wasn't just an intimate thing with each other. One of my friends played volleyball, got knots, and the other was a good masseuse and enjoyed giving out massages! Problem solved.
rafallus Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 @ptp How do you know they were cheating? Maybe their boyfriends were cool with it? I know if my GF wanted to make out with a friend of hers I wouldn't consider it cheating. I was the only guy there at the time and neither of them are interested in me so they have no reason to get attention from me. Couldn't it be that they just wanted to see what it would like to to kiss each other? And before you wrote this: They were 2 consenting adult females expressing themselves, I don't see how that is "d*ck" move by me. like I said it was hot and enjoyed it. When I see to chicks making out, I see it as a beautiful thing. I convinced 2 of my female friends to kiss each other. Both were in relationships so it wasn't like they were trying to get attention from me. Them making out is burned into my brain in vivid, crystal clear hd vision. It was very sexual, sensual and hot. You encouraged them to kiss for your own gratification. Would they do it without your enabling? Maybe, we will never know. But don't try to wash your hands clean, because you're not fooling anyone. They wanted your attention, it's just inconvenient to admit. I do like to see girls kissing, it will always look hotter than if one of them was kissing a guy, but let's not pretend your innocence.
Author irc333 Posted August 9, 2011 Author Posted August 9, 2011 Seeing women do this with each other doesn't turn me on actually, doesn't do anything for me. That has a very negative connotation. When I see to chicks making out, I see it as a beautiful thing. I convinced 2 of my female friends to kiss each other. Both were in relationships so it wasn't like they were trying to get attention from me. Them making out is burned into my brain in vivid, crystal clear hd vision. It was very sexual, sensual and hot.
Author irc333 Posted August 9, 2011 Author Posted August 9, 2011 It's cheating whether permission is granted or not. Just stating the facts. The fact that permission is given is irrelevant. Sorry, we're both 32 and if there is permission and full disclosure between all people involved (including the spouses of the two girls kissing) I don't believe it is cheating (and this coming from a BS lol) neither do I think any gender combination with permission, full disclosure and awareness from all corners is cheating. Cheating is changing the dynamics of the relationship without full disclosure, consent or knowledge from the unknowing spouse or partner which indeed includes kissing, flirting, sex of any kind, touching, etc etc.
shadowofman Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Cheating involves breaking the rules of the relationship. If the relationship has no rules, then there is no cheating. Cheating is whatever your partner considers cheating. It is not what society deems as immoral.
Author irc333 Posted August 9, 2011 Author Posted August 9, 2011 Cheating involves breaking the rules of the relationship. If the relationship has no rules, then there is no cheating. Cheating is whatever your partner considers cheating. It is not what society deems as immoral. Funny, some of the comments in these threads are starting to sound like the Bill Clinton trial/hearing. "I did not have sexual relations with that woman!" What the definition of "is" is. I don't see the point of being married, if you plan on being with others, might as well stay unattached. Waste/joke of a marriage actually
Author irc333 Posted August 9, 2011 Author Posted August 9, 2011 It is not what society deems as immoral. Has nothing to do what is deemed immoral, it's simply a fact.
Chocolat Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Because they look like the cool, hip happening chicks at parties. If you're a straight woman and don't make out with other women at parties, you are a prude. Apparently, I'm a prude. Or maybe just solidly heterosexual! Funny, some of the comments in these threads are starting to sound like the Bill Clinton trial/hearing. "I did not have sexual relations with that woman!" What the definition of "is" is. :laugh:
ptp Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 @ptp And before you wrote this: You encouraged them to kiss for your own gratification. Would they do it without your enabling? Maybe, we will never know. But don't try to wash your hands clean, because you're not fooling anyone. They wanted your attention, it's just inconvenient to admit. I do like to see girls kissing, it will always look hotter than if one of them was kissing a guy, but let's not pretend your innocence. Absolutely I can wash my hands of it. These girls are adults doing what they wanted to do. All I did was talk to them, I didn't force them to kiss. They kissed because THEY WANTED TO KISS each other, not because of what I said.
fharz Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Hmm i think you're just being dirty minded dude! It is quite normal for women who dance with women maybe they just bestfriends. We did dancing together with my girl friends in disco but no malicious between us. Unless if man to man dancing that isn't quite normal. maybe one of them is gay. hahaha.lol
CatNtheHat Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Sorry, we're both 32 and if there is permission and full disclosure between all people involved (including the spouses of the two girls kissing) I don't believe it is cheating (and this coming from a BS lol) neither do I think any gender combination with permission, full disclosure and awareness from all corners is cheating. Cheating is changing the dynamics of the relationship without full disclosure, consent or knowledge from the unknowing spouse or partner which indeed includes kissing, flirting, sex of any kind, touching, etc etc. If you had looked at one of my earlier posts, you would have seen that I wrote that unless there is an "open relationship agreement" I think its considered cheating. I still think its strange that someone would want to "share" their partner. wtf.
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