Tasha49 Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 LoveandSuch- I was just giving my opinion as a woman. And in my opinion there are more bitches out there than *******s. I think I have a right to say I do however agree on how a lot of men in the night scene are ridiculously perverted and overly desperate/horny. But such can be expected when you go to places like the bars and clubs. That is why they are mostly there. To have good times and be skanks and jerk-offs. And most men posting online showing theirself as disgusting pigs is because of the threads you probably choose to open. When there are however, probably just as many threads where there are decent minded men posting more respectfully. I always tell myself: just because I come across *******s or horny perverts, doesn't mean they are the majority of the male population. It is all about odds.
Author LoveandSuch Posted August 7, 2011 Author Posted August 7, 2011 LoveandSuch- I was just giving my opinion as a woman. And in my opinion there are more bitches out there than *******s. I think I have a right to say I do however agree on how a lot of men in the night scene are ridiculously perverted and overly desperate/horny. But such can be expected when you go to places like the bars and clubs. That is why they are mostly there. To have good times and be skanks and jerk-offs. And most men posting online showing theirself as disgusting pigs is because of the threads you probably choose to open. When there are however, probably just as many threads where there are decent minded men posting more respectfully. I always tell myself: just because I come across *******s or horny perverts, doesn't mean they are the majority of the male population. It is all about odds. I do not go to bars and night clubs.
Tasha49 Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 I do not go to bars and night clubs. I was more saying that to point out that that is where perverts should take their business.
Professor X Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 LoveandSuch, you may want to consider a few things: 1. Men, generally speaking, wanna show-off to their friends; In ANY environment - that includes forums as well. They wanna show how tough they are, how "menly" they are, how they don't care, how they are "Alpha" etc etc. And they usually LIE about it. So keep things in perspective when you go to an "all" men place - Testosterone you see.. Does wonders. 2. You went to a guys forum who specified in PUA, so ye.. What did you expect really? It's like, I'll go to a cheaters forums and be shocked when I see that people actually... cheat :eek: I know the same happens with women and I'm sure you've experienced it somewhere yourself. Women can be VERY catty towards one another: Act as if you are friends and the moment you leave, will bash you behind your back. I get the impression you've lived in this bubble until now, like you didn't know how things work in the world. Just remember you got trash everywhere. Oh and... when you go to a dumpster, don't be surprised when you find there... Trash!
patagonia Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 No sadly, the world has changed, men are not striving for classy women, they just want to sarge the big hooped earing, tackily dressed hoes hanging around a night club. Men nowadays seem to feel they are entitled to easy one night stands after a two-bit dinner and hokey pick up lines or lying about the authenticity of their intentions. You are right I do need a change of scenery. And that would never consist of online dating sites or night clubs, unless a friends night out with no intention of pick ups. sorry to disagree. Yes, lots of men want that but I would say just as many don't. I'm sorry you feel this way Loveandsuch.
ptp Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 What the problem a lot of girls have with men being as assertive as they sometimes are in their planning, is this: I don't know about other girls, but for me: It is THE hugest turn off if a guy approaches me and starts hitting on me in a perverted manner. Some men are disgusting and the first sentence they speak is "You are hot as hell. Could I get your number? Maybe you should come to my place tonight." If that is their opening line, then no smart girl in the world would see that man as a gentlemen and conversation worthy unless she was a desperate skank. It is clear someone is looking to hop in your pants without even asking you to dinner first. I KNOW 100% sure that a women would rather be referred to as beautiful or pretty than hot. Seriously men, have more respect and put your penis back into hibernation. If you're going to approach a girl... first try having an adult conversation before trying to get in her pants after five minutes of knowing her. Believe me when I say any guy who comes up to you and says "Hi, your hot wanna bang?" doesn't have plan. I still don't understand what LoveandSuch's problem is.
somedude81 Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 I was more saying that to point out that that is where perverts should take their business. Then what is your problem? This thread makes no sense.
Tasha49 Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 To be honest I haven't met or known a guy who has been as bad as LoveandSuch has focused on. For every bad apple there could be a ripe one.
Tasha49 Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 Then what is your problem? This thread makes no sense. Uhhh... I never said I had a problem.
Author LoveandSuch Posted August 7, 2011 Author Posted August 7, 2011 LoveandSuch, you may want to consider a few things: 1. Men, generally speaking, wanna show-off to their friends; In ANY environment - that includes forums as well. They wanna show how tough they are, how "menly" they are, how they don't care, how they are "Alpha" etc etc. And they usually LIE about it. So keep things in perspective when you go to an "all" men place - Testosterone you see.. Does wonders. 2. You went to a guys forum who specified in PUA, so ye.. What did you expect really? It's like, I'll go to a cheaters forums and be shocked when I see that people actually... cheat :eek: I know the same happens with women and I'm sure you've experienced it somewhere yourself. Women can be VERY catty towards one another: Act as if you are friends and the moment you leave, will bash you behind your back. I get the impression you've lived in this bubble until now, like you didn't know how things work in the world. Just remember you got trash everywhere. Oh and... when you go to a dumpster, don't be surprised when you find there... Trash! Very true. In regards to women, I am opening myself up more and trying to bond with them, ignoring the Catty business. Using positive reinforcement type techniques in a way.
Professor X Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 Very true. In regards to women, I am opening myself up more and trying to bond with them, ignoring the Catty business. Using positive reinforcement type techniques in a way. Good luck with the women business, I hope it's not as hard as one may think
Author LoveandSuch Posted August 7, 2011 Author Posted August 7, 2011 To be honest I haven't met or known a guy who has been as bad as LoveandSuch has focused on. For every bad apple there could be a ripe one. It is hard for me to understand why you are playing both sides. On this thread you are standing up for men and are basically agreeing with PUAs and how they view women, and you are now including that you have honestly never known a guy as bad as I have described. But, you started a thread that your own boyfriend will not include you at any of his parties, or take you to parties. And, another thread that you have been cheated on. I am trying to understand men, yes, but why would you put up with that crap? And you are not owning up to, "for every bad apple there is a good one." If you trully believed that, you would not be staying with a boyfriend who is treating you in the manners you described.
Professor X Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 It is hard for me to understand why you are playing both sides. On this thread you are standing up for men and are basically agreeing with PUAs and how they view women, and you are now including that you have honestly never known a guy as bad as I have described. But, you started a thread that your own boyfriend will not include you at any of his parties, or take you to parties. And, another thread that you have been cheated on. I am trying to understand men, yes, but why would you put up with that crap? And you are not owning up to, "for every bad apple there is a good one." If you trully believed that, you would not be staying with a boyfriend who is treating you in the manners you described. You can never understand men, don't even try, same as that we can never understand women. We are simply wired differently, so it's really pointless.. It's similar to, hmm, trying to describe a blind what is red color. You can, at best get a few pointers, but that's about it. Here, this made me laugh and it's all TRUE, 100% !!!
Tasha49 Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 It is hard for me to understand why you are playing both sides. On this thread you are standing up for men and are basically agreeing with PUAs and how they view women, and you are now including that you have honestly never known a guy as bad as I have described. But, you started a thread that your own boyfriend will not include you at any of his parties, or take you to parties. And, another thread that you have been cheated on. I am trying to understand men, yes, but why would you put up with that crap? And you are not owning up to, "for every bad apple there is a good one." If you trully believed that, you would not be staying with a boyfriend who is treating you in the manners you described. The way you are talking about men is making them appear as ALL bad and rotten. Who womanize and degrade women and cheat. I simply said that the men at clubs are mostly perverted horndogs. But that is why I also said that I have only known men to be like that at clubs. The guy I am involved with is NOT my boyfriend and I am kicking him to the curb because he doesn't want a relationship. And it isn't his fault. He was always upfront about that. He has never been an ******* to me or said mean things to be. So he is not a bad apple. Just not the right apple for me. I was only saying there are more women out there hard to put up with than men.
Woggle Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 No sadly, the world has changed, men are not striving for classy women, they just want to sarge the big hooped earing, tackily dressed hoes hanging around a night club. Men nowadays seem to feel they are entitled to easy one night stands after a two-bit dinner and hokey pick up lines or lying about the authenticity of their intentions. You are right I do need a change of scenery. And that would never consist of online dating sites or night clubs, unless a friends night out with no intention of pick ups. The way a woman dresses has nothing to do with her character. Just because a woman has big earings and looks a certain way does not mean she can't be a loyal and faithful partner. In fact I have found that many women like that are actually much more likable people than women who put on a facade of classiness but would crush a man's heart if he lets her. Just because a person looks the part does not mean they have class.
FitChick Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 After reading the negativity on LS and reading how so many people are bitter about the opposite sex, I am starting to change my view. For the most part, people who are happily coupled don't come to forums like these. Just like people who are happy with their purchase don't bother calling Customer Service to tell them.
Author LoveandSuch Posted August 7, 2011 Author Posted August 7, 2011 The way a woman dresses has nothing to do with her character. Just because a woman has big earings and looks a certain way does not mean she can't be a loyal and faithful partner. In fact I have found that many women like that are actually much more likable people than women who put on a facade of classiness but would crush a man's heart if he lets her. Just because a person looks the part does not mean they have class. Why do you assume classy women cannot be likable, fun, loyal and faithful? What I wrote was a generalization and sorry it offended you.
dasein Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 Why do you assume classy women cannot be likable, fun, loyal and faithful? Nothing in his post suggested the above. You are reading into it what you want his post to say.
Woggle Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 Why do you assume classy women cannot be likable, fun, loyal and faithful? What I wrote was a generalization and sorry it offended you. I never said that but too many people think that if a person looks the part that means they are classy.
Author LoveandSuch Posted August 7, 2011 Author Posted August 7, 2011 I never said that but too many people think that if a person looks the part that means they are classy. Classy does not mean you do not like to have fun or never let your hair down. Yes true and that can go for men as well. There may be a high class executive and unknown to others, he may be doing a hairy man at a gay biker bar.
Professor X Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 LoveandSuch, did you check the link I posted?
Easyguy14 Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 Okay! I thought that when men were interested in a woman, he would only be thinking of being a gentleman. A , "TRUE," gentleman. How I thought men were, intention wise, is quite shockingly different then what i have read them posting. They are using manipulative techniques, they are out sarging (WTF), they have plates spinning and f'ing all them, great way to spread herpes and much more. They talk about women as if we are skanks, easy, and if we do have values, intelligence, and if we are not falling for their games, we are disposable garbage, and the advice is to forget the b*tch and go hunting for more p*ssy. There are various techniques mentioned from PRETENDING to be caring, MANIPULATING them , and then F-CLOSE them. Wow! Makes a woman swoon. It was interesting to watch this new guy, talking loudly, acting as if he was all that interesting, and watching women laugh at his unfunny jokes, and innuendos. I looked at him and was thinking, what a F'tard. I am happy though, when they are so apparent, I can just go cold, and play dead to them, and this makes them very uncomfortable. I think they are so into themselves and into the game, that they are hyperaware, especially to the fact when someone gives them the, you are a F'tard steely cold stare. Im getting the jist that after some really bad experiences you have a wall built around you to stay protected inside of it. that's okay but you have to let the wall down a little bit when you meet a man that's being genuine with you and not trying to manipulate you in any way. I hope you have a good intuition to spot that kind.
Author LoveandSuch Posted August 7, 2011 Author Posted August 7, 2011 LoveandSuch, did you check the link I posted? Yes, very true, also some men spend more time than other men in the empty box.
Author LoveandSuch Posted August 7, 2011 Author Posted August 7, 2011 Im getting the jist that after some really bad experiences you have a wall built around you to stay protected inside of it. that's okay but you have to let the wall down a little bit when you meet a man that's being genuine with you and not trying to manipulate you in any way. I hope you have a good intuition to spot that kind. I do have a radar and good intuition. I do not hate men, as I posted before, am extremely infatuated and have a kind relationship with one that I cannot be with in the longterm plus is LD so essentially safe. A freind suggested I read some men's forums to enhance my radar and I was taken back with what I read and how many men trully viewed women. But, Professsor X did make a great analogy that men do tend to try to be the biggest fish of a group, man one another up.
SlevinKalebra Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 am extremely infatuated and have a kind relationship with one that I cannot be with in the longterm plus is LD so essentially safe. This speaks volumes--Not attacking you so please do not interpret it as such, but seems to shed light IMO on your uncomfortableness with men in general and your fear of a real relationship. OKAY HERE IT IS COMMON SENSE- (caution this may be too much for some people. Try reading short bursts until you can handle it) NOT ALL MEN ARE USERS ONLY OUT FOR SEX. NOT ALL WOMEN ARE CONTROLLING, GOLD-DIGGING, BITCHES. If you want to be alone forever, then keep separating yourself from the other half. I have had horrendous experiences with women, not woman kind. What I have learned is they were not my type (or species it seems in many cases). I have added this type to my radar to avoid. I heed red flags, even if I do not understand them. And I finally know my type. It's all part of life. You live, you learn, you improve. If you dislike something in others then it is your problem, you cannot change them. Have the common sense not to try, to avoid what you don't approve of, and stop getting so hung up on it. Final note I love my nothing box and I wanna upgrade to a nothing cargo transport.
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