Woggle Posted August 6, 2011 Posted August 6, 2011 Last night a friend of mine who I used to work came and visited me and he brought along his new girlfriend. On the surface she looks trashy. She has a typical guidette demeanor and looks a character from grease crossed with a punk rocker. Once you looked past that though she is a delight. That couple and my wife and I decided to go have some fun and she is a delight. Not once did I see her get an attitude with him or play some stupid game to make him jealous. You can see the love in her eyes and the love in his. She is the kind of women who you can bring along with the guys and not be afraid to be yourself. She also was bashing materialism and claiming that she doesn't care about money excpept as a means to do the things she wants. My friend hit the jackpot with this one. It was glaringly obvious why most men would choose a woman like this over a high class lady with an attitude who is obsessed with status. That is the kind of women he left.
Audrina Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 Well I know I'm a woman who doesn't care much for status. I went to an all women's high school and college and materialism really runs rampant in that environment. I am basically so glad I got the hell over myself and realized what's really important in life. And since I have there are more people in my life who want to be around me because of the happiness I radiate, it's taking joy in the simple things. However, I do not consider myself trashy on the outside at all. I'm definitely not stuck up, but I'm not dressing up like a slut either.
KR10N Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 It probably wouldn't matter if she were a 'Flying Purple People Eater'. People like her tend to attract others because of their friendly & polite demeanor.
dasein Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 I find that indicators of social class are predictive of behavior. Predictive doesn't mean absolute though. The old can't judge a book by its cover cliche comes to mind. One of the reasons we are skeptical is because we get hit with all these media messages that everyone and everything is valid, when we know deep down that is not the case. The falseness of all those media messages puts us on guard more than we would normally be.
SincereOnlineGuy Posted August 8, 2011 Posted August 8, 2011 It probably wouldn't matter if she were a 'Flying Purple People Eater'. Carl Eller??
Author Woggle Posted August 8, 2011 Author Posted August 8, 2011 I find that indicators of social class are predictive of behavior. Predictive doesn't mean absolute though. The old can't judge a book by its cover cliche comes to mind. One of the reasons we are skeptical is because we get hit with all these media messages that everyone and everything is valid, when we know deep down that is not the case. The falseness of all those media messages puts us on guard more than we would normally be. Many of these stereotypes are not true though. I have known more dishonest suit and tie yuppy types than I have out of any class of people I have known.
StoneCold Posted August 8, 2011 Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) Any thoughts? I couldnt tell you.. I do agree that some of the coolest girls I know are the trashy ones...you can talk to them about anything, no judging, sweet as candy, funny, relaxed....and th sex is good. As you said... an absolute delight to be in the company of. I remember one girl in particular....TRASHY as all get out but man was she ever a pleasure to be with...and I'm not just talking about sex stuff. You talk to her and shes just spot on and so nice. You spend an hour hanging with this girl and you want to slap the next girl that talks crap about her why?... who knows...I think it may be because they are trashy they get a lot more attention from men of all kinds; and through this attention they figure out what guys actually like and want and simply emulate this...rather than getting their information about guys from some chick magazine written by women for women. its hands on experience....(pun...teeheehee) Edited August 8, 2011 by StoneCold
AngryPMS Posted August 8, 2011 Posted August 8, 2011 Men like them mainly because they are sluts. Those trashy women will do almost anything and anybody. Some men out there like an easy girl.
StoneCold Posted August 8, 2011 Posted August 8, 2011 Men like them mainly because they are sluts. Those trashy women will do almost anything and anybody. Some men out there like an easy girl. ......case in point
Author Woggle Posted August 8, 2011 Author Posted August 8, 2011 ......case in point Very true. It's funny how his ex calls her a skank. I also think it is because these women tend to march to their own drummer and don't give a damn about validation and status. They don't need some bad boy to make them feel attractive so they get to know men on a human level. Women like this just seem to get men in a way that some other women don't. This woman looked like she went to a thrift store and bought her outfit and you could tell she doesn't give a damn about high fashion.
dasein Posted August 8, 2011 Posted August 8, 2011 Many of these stereotypes are not true though. I have known more dishonest suit and tie yuppy types than I have out of any class of people I have known. Agree generally, thing is, a suit and tie yuppy type may be making $35k sitting behind a desk in a bank, or $3,500,000 on a Wall Street trading desk, clothes can be really deeptive. I don't think a yuppy look is an indicator of social class. Was thinking more of speech patterns, vocabulary, body language, as indicators of social class. The media pounds into us that everyone is just a good as each other, despite the fact that the less intelligent someone is, and the worse or more broken the environment of their early childhood, the poorer their socialization, the MORE likely they are to be a bad or at least mediocre person. Proof of this is the IQ of the incarcerated, far below average. The media tells us every one is as good as everyone else, this BS puts us on guard, and actually causes us to make MORE presumptions about someone than we should based on their behavior or other factors. Will relate this to the tramp stamp thread. I will freely admit that part of my prejudice against tramp stamps comes from the media glorifying the inked as "rugged individualists" which may have been true 50 years ago, but today, it's just another kind of conformity. Without those BS media "eye roller" messages, I doubt my bias against tramp stamps or the heavily inked would be as strong.
CatNtheHat Posted August 8, 2011 Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) Last night a friend of mine who I used to work came and visited me and he brought along his new girlfriend. On the surface she looks trashy. She has a typical guidette demeanor and looks a character from grease crossed with a punk rocker. Once you looked past that though she is a delight. That couple and my wife and I decided to go have some fun and she is a delight. Not once did I see her get an attitude with him or play some stupid game to make him jealous. You can see the love in her eyes and the love in his. She is the kind of women who you can bring along with the guys and not be afraid to be yourself. She also was bashing materialism and claiming that she doesn't care about money excpept as a means to do the things she wants. My friend hit the jackpot with this one. It was glaringly obvious why most men would choose a woman like this over a high class lady with an attitude who is obsessed with status. That is the kind of women he left. Just because someone dresses "trashy" doesn't mean they behave "trashy". However I do believe the was you dress will lead a person to think you ARE trashy, if you dress that way. I personally don't get why some women dress the way they do. I think its important to dress with class and behave with class. The First impression on how one dresses is very important. I think some women dress a certain way to get attention from men. Especially if they don't wear much clothing. And in my opinion if you dress distastefully than fully expect looks from men and rolling eyes from women. You asked for it. Edited August 8, 2011 by CatNtheHat
Sanman Posted August 8, 2011 Posted August 8, 2011 Well, I don't think it is just about trashy women. It is about not wanting to deal with women who have a list of unrealistic expectations for no other reason than they are used to getting their way. Some women are not used to being treated well and really appreciate it whereas others simply take certain things for granted and consider being treated well as an expectation rather than a benefit. Bottom line is that it is nice to be appreciated rather than criticized.
Audrina Posted August 8, 2011 Posted August 8, 2011 Well, I don't think it is just about trashy women. It is about not wanting to deal with women who have a list of unrealistic expectations for no other reason than they are used to getting their way. Some women are not used to being treated well and really appreciate it whereas others simply take certain things for granted and consider being treated well as an expectation rather than a benefit. Bottom line is that it is nice to be appreciated rather than criticized. This explains me exactly. I have continually been treated like crap in the majority of my past relationships. When someone finally comes along who treats me well, I treat him like the king he is.
Author Woggle Posted August 8, 2011 Author Posted August 8, 2011 I don't think that is it. Though I would certainly never consider my wife trashy she truly couldn't care less about status and validation and social standing. She is really hot as well but doesn't make that the main focus of her identity. Both of them seem like women who can truly relate well to men and I wonder why they succeed where other women fail.
Wolf18 Posted August 8, 2011 Posted August 8, 2011 Well the issue is this , any woman who is willing to spend thousands of dollars to have perfect nails, hollywood unnaturally white teeth, and spends hundreds of dollars on her hair, is going to expect the same thing from you generally. I prefer the so called trashy girls any day to some bourgeois chick obsessed with ethnic food and designer clothes. Problem is, they´re hard to find where I live (NYC), the real trash are the girls who dont think about anything but their career or other frivolous materialistic BS.
CatNtheHat Posted August 8, 2011 Posted August 8, 2011 Well, I don't think it is just about trashy women. It is about not wanting to deal with women who have a list of unrealistic expectations for no other reason than they are used to getting their way. Some women are not used to being treated well and really appreciate it whereas others simply take certain things for granted and consider being treated well as an expectation rather than a benefit. Bottom line is that it is nice to be appreciated rather than criticized. Being treated well should be an expectation...
Star Gazer Posted August 8, 2011 Posted August 8, 2011 I don't think that is it. Though I would certainly never consider my wife trashy she truly couldn't care less about status and validation and social standing. I could care less about status and social standing, and I'm the furthest thing from trashy.
CatNtheHat Posted August 8, 2011 Posted August 8, 2011 Well the issue is this , any woman who is willing to spend thousands of dollars to have perfect nails, hollywood unnaturally white teeth, and spends hundreds of dollars on her hair, is going to expect the same thing from you generally. I prefer the so called trashy girls any day to some bourgeois chick obsessed with ethnic food and designer clothes. Problem is, they´re hard to find where I live (NYC), the real trash are the girls who dont think about anything but their career or other frivolous materialistic BS. Well I don't and can't afford to spend thousands of dollars on dumb stuff, but I also don't dress or act trashy. I'm pretty conservative and can dress nicely with clothes I bought at TJ Maxx.
misssmartypants Posted August 8, 2011 Posted August 8, 2011 I think you guys have too broad a definition of "trashy" Woggle called her trashy because she sounds like she has unusual fashion sense. But she behaved like a fun, pleasant person. To me that's not trashy, that's just a little unusual. Other's have said women who were trashy were nice to men, got a lot of male attention and played to it. I'm not so sure if that fits either. But then I am not a guy, I also do not get a lot of male attention. I do, however, tend to have things about me that people on LS have called "Trashy". I have (gasp) tattoos, and am a single mom. My family was dysfunctional when I was growing up. I don't do a lot of typical "girly" things and I don't get hung up on status, beyond the fact that I like to be able to pay my bills and afford a few "fun" things in my life.
Author Woggle Posted August 8, 2011 Author Posted August 8, 2011 Well the issue is this , any woman who is willing to spend thousands of dollars to have perfect nails, hollywood unnaturally white teeth, and spends hundreds of dollars on her hair, is going to expect the same thing from you generally. I prefer the so called trashy girls any day to some bourgeois chick obsessed with ethnic food and designer clothes. Problem is, they´re hard to find where I live (NYC), the real trash are the girls who dont think about anything but their career or other frivolous materialistic BS. Go out of upper Manhattan and they are much easier to find.
CatNtheHat Posted August 8, 2011 Posted August 8, 2011 If you have ever watched those "Jersey" reality shows. The women on their are the poster child for trash.
Author Woggle Posted August 8, 2011 Author Posted August 8, 2011 I don't think this woman is trashy at all but when he brought her into work all the women seemed to have an opinion of her so I used that term.
Audrina Posted August 8, 2011 Posted August 8, 2011 I don't think that is it. Though I would certainly never consider my wife trashy she truly couldn't care less about status and validation and social standing. She is really hot as well but doesn't make that the main focus of her identity. Both of them seem like women who can truly relate well to men and I wonder why they succeed where other women fail. Well, what's your definition of trashy? I certainly don't take my boyfriend for granted, nor do I treat him poorly. We have our arguments but we are always able to smooth them over through patient and open communication. I don't wear dresses every day, nor do I cover my arms and legs fully - to some this is trashy, other others it isn't. I have a highly professional career but when I get home I love to take my work clothes off, put on some jeans and tank top and relax - whether it be with my dog at the beach, going for a hike, reading a book or listening to records in my condo. I used to care about status symbols, the jewelry, purses, getting my nails done - but I realized none of that matters, what actually matters is when you radiate happiness, take care of yourself and don't represent yourself as materialistic. At the end of the day, I don't have many male friends who like truly "trashy" women. They like the women who are happy with being themselves, aren't afraid to get dirty and have a good time, and are confident. "Trashy" and slutty, just means that they are getting laid and while that is appreciated, those women are never girlfriend material. At least to them.
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