quietGuy13 Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 I personally would be fine with girl who say only graduated basic college and was doing someting simple like receptionist or customer service. I wouldn't care. we would help eachother and if we married we could fight together. But how about women? I often see that they care too much about if the guy has great jobs. That's why I don't know how i will be able to find a woman that doesn't care too much.
xoxoDaniellexoxo Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 If he is happy why not? The problem would be if you eventually wanted kids and couldn't provide for them, I didn't realize til a friend had a child how expensive they are. But if you are happy together I don't see the problem!
Mrlonelyone Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Women are like men in a very important way. They like people who make them horny. Work on your appearance to make yourself look a way that makes women horny and you won't have to worry. Plenty of women will choose a poor worthless bastard over a well funded man if that bastard makes them horny. Women will deny this. They are the sex that supposedly looks deeper. They don't. A man can be shy, quiet, poor, and mentally disabled but if he's "hot" enough a woman will find a way to date him.
alphamale Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 But how about women? I often see that they care too much about if the guy has great jobs. most young chicks don't care too much about money. but as they age it gets much more important. probably the biggest gold-diggers are the attractive women in the 30-45 age range
xoxoDaniellexoxo Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Women are like men in a very important way. They like people who make them horny. Work on your appearance to make yourself look a way that makes women horny and you won't have to worry. Plenty of women will choose a poor worthless bastard over a well funded man if that bastard makes them horny. Women will deny this. They are the sex that supposedly looks deeper. They don't. A man can be shy, quiet, poor, and mentally disabled but if he's "hot" enough a woman will find a way to date him. I think that may be true for some women I won't deny that but some women actually do look for more, I don't necessarily ( I am a terrible speller) the most attractive guys I want someone who I am not just physically attracted too but actually can talk too. Do I think Adam Levine is hot as hell?? YEAH but I want someone that I can be myself with and he can be himself. I won't try and defend every other women cause that is a worthless cause since some don't look deeper but there are some of us who do, we are just an endangered speicies as my friend says.
FitChick Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 I think most men want to feel a teeny bit superior to the women they date and marry. That doesn't mean they don't respect them. Men usually fear you will leave them for someone more successful, not someone better looking. That's the female fear.
Mrlonelyone Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Yes men can be very insecure about such things. That said many women want a man who "can take care of them". On some level they want to know that if they were sicker, or poorer he could take care of them. @xoxoDaniellexoxo Everyone says that about themselves. Women say that they look deeper, men say that they look deeper. I don't buy it. All dating behavior can be explained simply by looking at the relative attractiveness of each person. Everyone wants to get the hottest partner they can. When I see a broke, parapalegic, obese veteran dating a super model I'll start to think otherwise.
xoxoDaniellexoxo Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 @xoxoDaniellexoxo Everyone says that about themselves. Women say that they look deeper, men say that they look deeper. I don't buy it. All dating behavior can be explained simply by looking at the relative attractiveness of each person. Everyone wants to get the hottest partner they can. When I see a broke, parapalegic, obese veteran dating a super model I'll start to think otherwise. That may be the case for some people but I have seen first hand how women can be like that my ex aunt was like that and because of her my uncle decided that he wasn't worth living and killed himself. I will swear on both my grandfathers' graves that I have dated guys who people I know and even my parents thought were unattractive but my mom always told me that looks will fade and you have to love someone for their personality.
fortyninethousand322 Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Yes men can be very insecure about such things. That said many women want a man who "can take care of them". On some level they want to know that if they were sicker, or poorer he could take care of them. @xoxoDaniellexoxo Everyone says that about themselves. Women say that they look deeper, men say that they look deeper. I don't buy it. All dating behavior can be explained simply by looking at the relative attractiveness of each person. Everyone wants to get the hottest partner they can get who doesn't make them want to jump off the nearest cliff. When I see a broke, parapalegic, obese veteran dating a super model I'll start to think otherwise. I think what I added in bold makes your argument even better. Agreed?
Imajerk17 Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Let's hear it for quietGuy, the Forum Creepster!
xoxoDaniellexoxo Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 I think what I added in bold makes your argument even better. Agreed? I think it is sad that people still joke about suicide, and that people can be cynical, do I think people can be shallow yeah but at the end of the day I think that there are people who do see deeper than a pay check or the guys abs and face.
Imajerk17 Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Seriously quietGuy, I have no idea if you're real or a troll, but if you're real, you don't get girls because you're weird and creepy. You're about on the same level as one goal.
xoxoDaniellexoxo Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Seriously quietGuy, I have no idea if you're real or a troll, but if you're real, you don't get girls because you're weird and creepy. You're about on the same level as one goal. Just wondering (totally serious) how long did it take you to become established member lol? Sorry if that sounds creepy:confused:
ScienceGal Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 I want a man that can take care of himself and is good with money (however much that may be). My ex has a job in which one would think he makes decent money. It's his family's business though, and he actually doesn't make jack squat. Literally, he gets no paycheck. He takes a little money here and there and spends it on going out and having a social life. I noticed this early in the relationship, but hoped that the economy would turn around and he'd be in a better position eventually. But, he is immature and financially irresponsible so it doesn't matter how much money he has. That is a huge turn off. I saw no real security in a future with him. ...NEXT!
sm1tten Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 I couldn't date a man without ambition, because it's something I have and value. I couldn't date a man who didn't have anywhere near the level of education I have, because it's highly likely we wouldn't have anything in common. I don't need a rich guy, I don't need to be "taken care of." I need a man who is on my level, who inspires me, teaches me, cares for me - and gets the same from me. I don't believe in absolutes, so yeah, that dream guy could be a broke dude working in retail with an associates... but his chances with me are not good.
musemaj11 Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 16-23 year old women only care whether you are hot or not because during school age, everyone is practically broke so the only way a girl could measure a guy status is by his physical attractiveness and popularity. The truth is that all women are gold diggers. The ones who arent are just not attractive enough to be one.
Mrlonelyone Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 @lady day. It sounds like those people want to be like the Huxtables or something. (You remember the Cosby show?) @49322 Yes it does. I stand by what I said. All a man needs to do to negate a total lack of ambition or personal resources is look good enough to be a boy toy. Such a man will get sex and free meals, and regardless if the ladies rationalize that as something other than dating, to the man it does not matter. Afterall he's getting sex.
musemaj11 Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 (edited) Personally I think the women's way is the smart way. I have learned from women that I should judge someone solely by her attractiveness for short term commitment while when it comes to long term commitment, I should judge someone by her money and education level. Anyway, what I often find funny and ironic is that most women don't like it either when they are judged by their financial status. Edited August 5, 2011 by musemaj11
carhill Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 (edited) Just wondering (totally serious) how long did it take you to become established member lol? Sorry if that sounds creepy:confused: 30 days and 100 posts is the last metric I'm aware of. Topically, yes it is true. It depends on the people involved. The next time I take the RV to the coast, I'll stop outside the Avenal prison and watch the comings and goings. It's always enlightening. 5738 datapoints, as of the end of June. Past trips indicate there is marked female interest (employees and visitors park in separate areas) in the men who reside there. I often find funny and ironic is that most women don't like it either when they are judged by their financial status.Women are more indirect, indicating 'my man is successful' or 'yeah, he's a (name a moneyed profession)' rather than talking directly about precise currency. Perhaps they resent the man's directness. However, being exposed to the younger generations of women, I find them more direct, stating specifically that they won't date or marry someone who makes less than (usually six or seven figures). OK, go get 'em, and I presume it's a two-way street. At least I know I'll never spot them going into the prison parking lot Edited August 5, 2011 by carhill
Andy_K Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Women care about your job and status the same way you care about their tits and ass. It's that simple. Whilst many women are perfectly happy with a guy that is doing ok and ticks all their boxes, a more successful man still makes a better trophy. Equally, whilst many men may be crazy about some girl who's got plenty of physical flaws, the busty blonde/brunette with the toned rear is the one that will be almost universally desired.
Queen Zenobia Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 The truth is that all women are gold diggers. The ones who arent are just not attractive enough to be one. Women with self respect are not gold diggers. Being a gold digger is one of the first steps on the road to serfdom, I prefer to stand on my own two feet and make my own path (perhaps that makes me "unattractive" ). But, it's nice to have someone to walk that path with, thankfully I do. You have a very limited way of viewing the world.
Dorie Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 I personally would be fine with girl who say only graduated basic college and was doing someting simple like receptionist or customer service. I wouldn't care. we would help eachother and if we married we could fight together. But how about women? I often see that they care too much about if the guy has great jobs. That's why I don't know how i will be able to find a woman that doesn't care too much. Have you found women IRL who don't care? They're not too common FME. Women want men with ambition, drive, and if they're lucky enough, a good job. If the last thing is missing, the first two make up for it.
bac Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 I personally would be fine with girl who say only graduated basic college and was doing someting simple like receptionist or customer service. I wouldn't care. we would help eachother and if we married we could fight together. But how about women? I often see that they care too much about if the guy has great jobs. That's why I don't know how i will be able to find a woman that doesn't care too much. You might want to look for women who are not able to find quality men or any man. It does not matter how much money girls make because a receptionist might be a nice and very beautiful lady. You might want to look for the right combo of bad appearance, poor education, difficult personality, low self-esteem or other problems. The ugly appearance coupled with difficult personality makes a woman available and desperate for any guy. You also need her to have the same level of education. It is an important thing to have in common to build an emotional/intellectual connection and rapport.
musemaj11 Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Women with self respect are not gold diggers. Being a gold digger is one of the first steps on the road to serfdom, I prefer to stand on my own two feet and make my own path (perhaps that makes me "unattractive" ). But, it's nice to have someone to walk that path with, thankfully I do. You have a very limited way of viewing the world. I'm just stating the truth of nature. I have never seen an extremely attractive adult woman who is in a long term relationship with a man who is broke just like I have never seen a wealthy man with an uglier woman. I'm not saying they don exist at all. But they make up perhaps 1% of relationships.
musemaj11 Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Women care about your job and status the same way you care about their tits and ass. It's that simple. Whilst many women are perfectly happy with a guy that is doing ok and ticks all their boxes, a more successful man still makes a better trophy. Equally, whilst many men may be crazy about some girl who's got plenty of physical flaws, the busty blonde/brunette with the toned rear is the one that will be almost universally desired. True, except successful men usually will become more successful as they get older while beautiful women will only get uglier as they get older, which means such a deal is inherently unfair in the long term. For long term commitment, smart men should take a woman's financial and social status into the equation as well. Be more like women.
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