anne1707 Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 That's why the 'rule of thumb' was so useful in the good old days. Not enough "physical stimulation" to cause a serious injury, but sufficient to shut her up and remind her who the man is. Am I reading this correctly? Are you implying that it is Ok for a man to use "physical stimulation" (i.e. force) that may cause a minor injury in order to shut a woman up?
Woggle Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 I will ask the same question I ask men who date women who like being mistreated. Why do you want somebody who seems to like punishment in the first place?
Author tigressA Posted July 23, 2011 Author Posted July 23, 2011 Explain away your behaviour however you want. It ain't cool. Oh, I know. I'm not a fan either. I'm working on changing it. Difficult since I've been doing it for so long, but it'll get easier.
Feelsgoodman Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 Maybe I just haven't dated any bitchy women, but I see no point in continuing an argument once it's reached yelling levels. The normal, natural male response to a screeching female is the right dose of physical stimulation. Works extremely well from what I've observed in the more male-friendly societies. Unfortunately, most western countries are now run by momma's boys who have passed all sorts of laws against that.
Enchanted Girl Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 I don't like how I come off at times. It's when I feel provoked...one of the problems is that I'm easily provoked. I don't do it just for the sake of doing it. It's second nature to me. I find it interesting that plenty of guys capitulate when faced with it--hence this thread. I was bullied a lot myself, particularly in school, so I learned how to push back. I learned how to intimidate people. At my HS friend's wedding I talked to a former classmate who was there, and apparently my legacy is that I wanted to kill someone with an icicle (long story). I was bullied a lot myself growing up as well. =/ And because of it I DO NOT treat people like **** because I know how it feels.
Enchanted Girl Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 The normal, natural male response to a screeching female is the right dose of physical stimulation. Works extremely well from what I've observed in the more male-friendly societies. Unfortunately, most western countries are now run by momma's boys who have passed all sorts of laws against that. LOL. I'd say you were just a troll, but my ex boyfriend used to talk like that. =/ He's the reason I know what rule of thumb is. And those guys aren't "momma's boys", they are just the good part of your gender. =D I'm sorry you aren't one of them.
Feelsgoodman Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 Am I reading this correctly? Are you implying that it is Ok for a man to use "physical stimulation" (i.e. force) that may cause a minor injury in order to shut a woman up? If she is behaving like the OP (i.e. screeching or cussing or just generally acting like a b*tch), absolutely.
anne1707 Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 If she is behaving like the OP (i.e. screeching or cussing or just generally acting like a b*tch), absolutely. You believe in physically abusing women then?
Enchanted Girl Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 If she is behaving like the OP (i.e. screeching or cussing or just generally acting like a b*tch), absolutely. Well, I guess if going to jail is more important than just leaving for a more emotionally healthy women . . . . .
torn_curtain Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 Maybe some guys like this, but I think it's usually guys who are spineless. Most confident guys want a woman is essentially warm. A lot of guys like spunk and a bit of attitude, but only in a playful way.
Enchanted Girl Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 You believe in physically abusing women then? I think he's just trying to top the OP bitchiness.
Feelsgoodman Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 You believe in physically abusing women then? No, I don't. There is a difference between discipline and abuse. I'm advocating the former.
anne1707 Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 No, I don't. There is a difference between discipline and abuse. I'm advocating the former. Discipline? You think "physical stimulation" is discipline? What counts as "physical stimulation" to you? Pushing a woman? Grabbing her arm so hard it bruises? Punching her in the stomach (so no one can see her bruises)? I hope to god you are a troll
Feelsgoodman Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 LOL. I'd say you were just a troll, but my ex boyfriend used to talk like that. =/ He's the reason I know what rule of thumb is. And those guys aren't "momma's boys", they are just the good part of your gender. =D I'm sorry you aren't one of them. So I'm a troll for having a different opinion? People tend to lose their sense of right and wrong when permitted to misbehave with impunity. That's why discipline is essential.
Author tigressA Posted July 23, 2011 Author Posted July 23, 2011 Maybe some guys like this, but I think it's usually guys who are spineless. Most confident guys want a woman is essentially warm. A lot of guys like spunk and a bit of attitude, but only in a playful way. Recently, I had apologized to my BF for how I had been acting during our little fights--swearing and raising my voice, etc. He said he got the sense I was joking around, because he had started doing it too--I remember, he had a grin on his face. I felt really awkward, like "Erm...okay...but I wasn't really kidding. That's why I'm apologizing."
relationship_learner Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 Idk, but I am extremely turned off when a girl is b**chy. Maybe it's because of my personal preference. But that might be different for some people. Just need to find someone who fit in the category lol
Enchanted Girl Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 So I'm a troll for having a different opinion? People tend to lose their sense of right and wrong when permitted to misbehave with impunity. That's why discipline is essential. You're a troll for saying things that would purposefully upset people. People disagree with me all the time on here without me calling them trolls. And a girlfriend/wife isn't your child. I just finished making a long post about how people keep coming up to me and telling me that I should "train" my boyfriend to do this or that by withholding my pussy or nagging him a bunch. He's not a dog or my child. He's a grown man whom I love and respect. I can't force him to do anything. If he loves and respects me in return and we are meant to be then he won't treat me like ****.
Feelsgoodman Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 Discipline? You think "physical stimulation" is discipline? What counts as "physical stimulation" to you? Pushing a woman? Grabbing her arm so hard it bruises? Punching her in the stomach (so no one can see her bruises)? I hope to god you are a troll Stop being so melodramatic. All that's needed is the minimum amount of stimulation to achieve the desired result.
Enchanted Girl Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 Stop being so melodramatic. All that's needed is the minimum amount of stimulation to achieve the desired result. So if a guy acts like an *******, is it a good idea for his girlfriend to get a stick no bigger than her thumb and beat him with it?
anne1707 Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 Stop being so melodramatic. All that's needed is the minimum amount of stimulation to achieve the desired result. OK then. What kind of "stimulation" do you think is acceptable?
sm1tten Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 It's interesting, this notion of "disciplining" your woman, because I've experienced it. I was in a LTR with a slightly older man from a country where women are often "put in their place" with the hand. We got into a fight one night. I'm not a screechy, dramatic fighter but this was one of those things where neither side was willing to let go and it got heated. He slapped me across the face. I broke his nose. We actually went on to stay together for a couple years after this. He knew that this behavior wasn't the accepted norm for American couples, but he felt comfortable with it because it was how he was raised and what he had seen. He also didn't see it as abuse. The only way we were going to stay together after that was if we got through this issue. I wasn't interested in sparring every time we had a quarrel and neither was he. I don't remember what the argument was even about but I let him know - a real man, who has a real woman, doesn't need to "discipline" her like a naughty child or a misbehaving pet. And it cuts both ways - a real woman, who has a real man, doesn't need to cut him down to get her way. But if nothing else, frankly, there is simply not a single person on the planet that I think is worthy of acting like they are BETTER than me or good enough to discipline me or put me in my place. Nor do I think myself better than anybody else. I don't think we're all equal. I just don't need to dominate or be dominated to be happy.
ptp Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 I have to believe feelsgoodman is just trying to act macho. I was hit as a kid (not abused, but disciplined) and no grown man/women should ever have that feeling of fear/dread. I would be greatly disappointed in myself if I ever lost my temper and made my SO feel physically threatened.
johan Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 OK then. What kind of "stimulation" do you think is acceptable? Maybe he means he gets out a vibrator or kisses her neck.
Author tigressA Posted July 23, 2011 Author Posted July 23, 2011 I have to believe feelsgoodman is just trying to macho. I was hit as a kid (not abused, but disciplined) and no grown man/women should ever have that feeling of fear/dread. I would be greatly disappointed in myself if I ever lost my temper and made my SO feel physically threatened. I would be too. I was made to feel that way in a prior relationship, but have never made anyone I was in a relationship with feel that way. When I lose my temper I raise my voice, I cuss, which are admittedly immature ways to make myself heard and get my point across and is something I'm working on.
singlelife Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 If a guy likes being treated like s*** then you're dealing with a pussy. Even the nicest of guys wouldn't want to put up with that. Humans have a thing called self respect.
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