KOH Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 first of all, this isn't an attack on religion, but on religious fundamentalists. my new "what I hate most in a relationship" is a woman forcing her views on me, I just broke up with a woman a few hours ago, she did a lot of crazy things, but her latest antic is what pissed me off the most, she gave a priest my number, & he started rambling, when I said no, he said I'd probably end up in hell. I immediately broke up with her, she called crying minutes later, I told her there's no way I'd ever take you back. Later I found out that she created a thread on some message board 2 months ago & she's been trying to convert me for some time, in the end the people there told her to just let a priest call me, if I don't budge, then she shouldn't be with me anyway. she's a Christian, in the past I've had somehow similar experiences with a Jewish girl & a Muslim girl, they weren't as bad, but I got tired of The Jewish girl's superiority complex & the Muslim's inferiority complex. anyone had a similar experience?
P&R Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 first of all, this isn't an attack on religion, but on religious fundamentalists. my new "what I hate most in a relationship" is a woman forcing her views on me, I just broke up with a woman a few hours ago, she did a lot of crazy things, but her latest antic is what pissed me off the most, she gave a priest my number, & he started rambling, when I said no, he said I'd probably end up in hell. I immediately broke up with her, she called crying minutes later, I told her there's no way I'd ever take you back. Later I found out that she created a thread on some message board 2 months ago & she's been trying to convert me for some time, in the end the people there told her to just let a priest call me, if I don't budge, then she shouldn't be with me anyway. she's a Christian, in the past I've had somehow similar experiences with a Jewish girl & a Muslim girl, they weren't as bad, but I got tired of The Jewish girl's superiority complex & the Muslim's inferiority complex. anyone had a similar experience? Yes. "Flirt to convert"
D-Lish Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 It's always best to choose people to date that have compatible views on some of the fundamentals. Me personally? As an Atheist, I'm never going to date someone with religious convictions. I'd always see them as ridiculous and they'd always see me as someone that's missing out on what fulfills them.
Feelin Frisky Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 Nah, I haven't had a similar experience because I don't let things get that far without finding out what's what. I have no use for it in any amount or any form. I'll put up with a certain level if she keeps it out of my view and off my radar. But at that it is bound to be a respect-eroder. There ain't nothing up there--it's all right here.
Mme. Chaucer Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 OMG! This must be the same girl you were trying to get into a threesome with her twin sister! That is FREAKING AWESOME! So, do you actually get to know ANYTHING about women you become involved with?
Author KOH Posted July 8, 2011 Author Posted July 8, 2011 OMG! This must be the same girl you were trying to get into a threesome with her twin sister! That is FREAKING AWESOME! So, do you actually get to know ANYTHING about women you become involved with? its not the same woman lol. & I knew she was religious, I just didn't know she was THAT crazy, she just texted me saying she'll stop, & she's willing to leave her religion for me, as if I'm supposed to believe that.
Feelin Frisky Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 (edited) Don't be a hypocrite. You are doing the very thing you are bitching about your ex doing, pushing your beliefs on us. Stop doing that. Don't call me a hypocrite. Who are you? I'm not pushing anything on anyone. If you can't share your thoughts on a forum without insulting your neighbors take your 45 posts and go home. What am I supposed to post, your thoughts or mine? Why did you pick me to get miserable with when there are other comments here just as blunt if not more so? Edited July 8, 2011 by Feelin Frisky
Eeyore79 Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 As an Atheist, I'm never going to date someone with religious convictions. I'd always see them as ridiculous and they'd always see me as someone that's missing out on what fulfills them. This applies to me too. Religion seems silly to me, and religious people see me as lost and in need of help; we simply aren't compatible. I'll happily be friends with a religious person as long as our friendship focuses on other things and they don't mention religion or try to convert me. But I can't be in a relationship with a religious person - apart from anything else I'd object to raising our kids as religious because I don't believe in it.
KathyM Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 first of all, this isn't an attack on religion, but on religious fundamentalists. my new "what I hate most in a relationship" is a woman forcing her views on me, I just broke up with a woman a few hours ago, she did a lot of crazy things, but her latest antic is what pissed me off the most, she gave a priest my number, & he started rambling, when I said no, he said I'd probably end up in hell. I immediately broke up with her, she called crying minutes later, I told her there's no way I'd ever take you back. Later I found out that she created a thread on some message board 2 months ago & she's been trying to convert me for some time, in the end the people there told her to just let a priest call me, if I don't budge, then she shouldn't be with me anyway. she's a Christian, in the past I've had somehow similar experiences with a Jewish girl & a Muslim girl, they weren't as bad, but I got tired of The Jewish girl's superiority complex & the Muslim's inferiority complex. anyone had a similar experience? She shouldn't be trying to force her religion on you. You were right to break up with her. You are not a match. No point in wasting time with her.
OldOnTheInside Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 But are you done dating atheist nuts? I'm not a fan of nuts in general.
Author KOH Posted July 8, 2011 Author Posted July 8, 2011 But are you done dating atheist nuts? I'm not a fan of nuts in general. I wouldn't mind dating atheist nuts, because it frankly won't affect me, & I'd also understand if someone is dating a religious nut of the same religion (though oppression is a risk in that case).
OldOnTheInside Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 I wouldn't mind dating atheist nuts, because it frankly won't affect me, & I'd also understand if someone is dating a religious nut of the same religion (though oppression is a risk in that case). Feh, you say that it won't affect you now. What about when the nuttiness overshadows the atheist part? Then the old screwdriver to the eye comes into play. A person's spiritual beliefs or lack thereof has no bearing on their eyeball-stabbing abilities.
Author KOH Posted July 8, 2011 Author Posted July 8, 2011 Feh, you say that it won't affect you now. What about when the nuttiness overshadows the atheist part? Then the old screwdriver to the eye comes into play. A person's spiritual beliefs or lack thereof has no bearing on their eyeball-stabbing abilities. I don't know what a nutty atheist can do to an atheist in the way of forcing her beliefs, I'm an atheists, she can't possibly force me into her views because I already have the same views. on the other hand, if she's crazy about something else, then its a different story.
OldOnTheInside Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 I don't know what a nutty atheist can do to an atheist in the way of forcing her beliefs, I'm an atheists, she can't possibly force me into her views because I already have the same views. on the other hand, if she's crazy about something else, then its a different story. 'Twas just a joke. Evidently not a very good one.
Teknoe Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 I'm Christian (and I take my faith quite seriously) and it's a shame when I hear stories like this. Please don't paint all Christians in this crazy light. Some actually know how to exhibit Christ's love without being overbearing or judgmental. At any rate, it's another reason why there's a verse in the Bible that says not to be yoked (i.e. dating/married) with an unbeliever... in the end it's just two spiritual sides clashing. Although some non-Christian/Christian marriages work, but very rarely
ChessPieceFace Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 I'm Christian (and I take my faith quite seriously) and it's a shame when I hear stories like this. Please don't paint all Christians in this crazy light. Some actually know how to exhibit Christ's love without being overbearing or judgmental. I know. I've heard maybe one story IRL of a weird dating experience with an ultra-religious kook like this. Most people in the US believe in god in some respect and most are also pretty normal. The OP's story almost sounds unbelievable, like an atheist troll post to mock religion. I don't doubt it COULD have happened but ... seems really unlikely. As for me, I would neither date a religious kook nor a hardcore atheist. Gotta be either the clear-headed believer type or an agnostic. Anything else is too much blind arrogance for my taste.
grkBoy Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 I had a girl who kept getting on my butt to go to church every Sunday, but I don't. We didn't break up because of that, but I did find it annoying that people like her somehow think my beliefs are "stupid" while hers are "correct". And this is why I don't like organized religion. God gave us free will to think for ourselves...and these people don't.
ChessPieceFace Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 I had a girl who kept getting on my butt to go to church every Sunday, but I don't. We didn't break up because of that, but I did find it annoying that people like her somehow think my beliefs are "stupid" while hers are "correct". And this is why I don't like organized religion. God gave us free will to think for ourselves...and these people don't. I was in christian groups in college. Some people were like what you mention but most were not. Most were just normal people who happened to have a belief in god, and respected everyone's journey of searching and exploring their beliefs since they are human beings like everyone else. I had some of the best times with them. I see no nobility in the militant atheist compared to the devout fundamentalist believer. They are both the same arrogant type of person I'd never want to be around. I'd sooner be around the devout believer though, since at least they have some amount of goodness and joy in their hearts, whereas the militant atheist has nothing but bitterness and condescension in theirs, their only goal being to make everyone else as miserable as they are. For more info about angry bitter atheists, contact iJester (who is now thankfully on my ignore list.)
BetheButterfly Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 first of all, this isn't an attack on religion, but on religious fundamentalists. Ah Thanks for clarifying. my new "what I hate most in a relationship" is a woman forcing her views on me, Understandable I just broke up with a woman a few hours ago, she did a lot of crazy things, but her latest antic is what pissed me off the most, she gave a priest my number, & he started rambling, when I said no, he said I'd probably end up in hell. Yikes! Why in the world did she give a priest your number? I immediately broke up with her, she called crying minutes later, I told her there's no way I'd ever take you back. Later I found out that she created a thread on some message board 2 months ago & she's been trying to convert me for some time, in the end the people there told her to just let a priest call me, if I don't budge, then she shouldn't be with me anyway. OK, well first of all, Christians are not supposed to be "dating" non Christians... it's a part of our beliefs. I'm not perfect... I have gone against my beliefs sometimes too but technically, it is true that Christians should marry before sex and should only marry Christians, if possible. she's a Christian, in the past I've had somehow similar experiences with a Jewish girl & a Muslim girl, they weren't as bad, but I got tired of The Jewish girl's superiority complex & the Muslim's inferiority complex. Yeah Jewish girls are supposed to be with Jewish guys.. Muslim girls seriously you dated a Muslim girl? Muslims are the most strict generally in that Muslim women are NOT supposed to date nor have relationships with kafir men. hmmm. anyone had a similar experience? I'm sure lots of people have. Even though it was against my beliefs, I didn't know it at the time, and I have dated a Hindu, a Muslim, an Atheist, and a Catholic (I'm Protestant) and later on realized through study why it's better for me to have a relationship with a man who shares my beliefs. Though there are definitely couples who are happy interfaith couples, most couples find that interfaith marriages/relationships are very difficult. It's much easier when a couple shares the same beliefs.
Feelin Frisky Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 ...I see no nobility in the militant atheist.. They are [the]...arrogant type of person I'd never want to be around. I'd sooner be around the devout believer though, since at least they have some amount of goodness and joy in their hearts, whereas the militant atheist has nothing but bitterness and condescension in theirs, their only goal being to make everyone else as miserable as they are. For more info about angry bitter atheists, contact iJester (who is now thankfully on my ignore list.) I respect your right to an opinion but how could possibly be so sure about anyone having "... nothing but bitterness and condescension" in their hearts? I agree that some persons who take atheism to be a cause can appear arrogant and condescending and, heck, I've been virtually kicked in the teeth quite a few times on atheists forums by snobs and purists, but I can see a lot of genuine spirituality and happiness in free thinking and committed atheism. I'm an anti-theist--someone who doesn't just "not believe" but someone who holds that worship of any kind is almost as dysfunctional as any addiction because it preoccupies someone who may otherwise be living the good instead of begging for it to be provided. I do not however see any sense in making that a cause in and of itself and alienating strangers. (The Internet however presents prompts to be honest about one's position and believer often take it defensively as did happen already in this thread.) I "believe" that answer is to lead thought that questions, and to culturize the confidence that there's no punishment for doing so. Why not try to give other people who think differently the benefit of the doubt? They are not their rhetoric all the time.
BetheButterfly Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 I was in christian groups in college. Some people were like what you mention but most were not. Most were just normal people who happened to have a belief in god, and respected everyone's journey of searching and exploring their beliefs since they are human beings like everyone else. I had some of the best times with them. Cool I see no nobility in the militant atheist compared to the devout fundamentalist believer. They are both the same arrogant type of person I'd never want to be around. I'd sooner be around the devout believer though, since at least they have some amount of goodness and joy in their hearts, whereas the militant atheist has nothing but bitterness and condescension in theirs, their only goal being to make everyone else as miserable as they are. For more info about angry bitter atheists, contact iJester (who is now thankfully on my ignore list.) I very much admire Atheists who help others, who do good and give to the poor and spend their precious time and use their resources to help those in need. So, Atheists who are intent on making the world a better place have my utmost respect and remind me of Jesus, since Jesus emphasized loving others and helping those in need. Atheists who just complain all the time about people of different beliefs and insult and mock them and aren't doing anything to help make the world a better place are a nice lesson to practice Jesus' teachings about forgiving those who insult you.
Ross MwcFan Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 anyone had a similar experience? No, thank god. Oops.
BetheButterfly Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 its not the same woman lol. & I knew she was religious, I just didn't know she was THAT crazy, she just texted me saying she'll stop, & she's willing to leave her religion for me, as if I'm supposed to believe that. Wow... I'd rather die than offer my beliefs in God up for a mere mortal!!! Does she think you will love her forever and ever and that you are always going to make her happy? It is a scary thing when any mere mortal depends on another mere mortal for all their happiness...
Author KOH Posted July 9, 2011 Author Posted July 9, 2011 Ah Thanks for clarifying. Understandable Yikes! Why in the world did she give a priest your number? OK, well first of all, Christians are not supposed to be "dating" non Christians... it's a part of our beliefs. I'm not perfect... I have gone against my beliefs sometimes too but technically, it is true that Christians should marry before sex and should only marry Christians, if possible. Yeah Jewish girls are supposed to be with Jewish guys.. Muslim girls seriously you dated a Muslim girl? Muslims are the most strict generally in that Muslim women are NOT supposed to date nor have relationships with kafir men. hmmm. I'm sure lots of people have. Even though it was against my beliefs, I didn't know it at the time, and I have dated a Hindu, a Muslim, an Atheist, and a Catholic (I'm Protestant) and later on realized through study why it's better for me to have a relationship with a man who shares my beliefs. Though there are definitely couples who are happy interfaith couples, most couples find that interfaith marriages/relationships are very difficult. It's much easier when a couple shares the same beliefs. the first part, well I've dated a lot of christians, most of them haven't even brought up religion to me, its your opinion that christians aren't supposed to date a non-christian, but that doesn't apply to everyone. and your second part is mostly the same, you sound very religious, not all Jews or Muslims agree that you should only be dating someone that follows the same religion, & from what I know, strict Muslims come only from Saudi Arabia or Pakistan (probably because those two implement barbaric laws), the rest have just as normal of a life as anybody. EDIT: I can't believe I'm defending theists, lol.
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