Mixed28 Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 As a status quo, women have the problem of choosing the right man out of as many as they care to meet, men have the problem of getting the time of day from any woman they see. /so its hard to say but even if a guy is very attractive and is nice (not a pushover though) that still doesn't mean that most girls would date him. So I say it is a little harder for men what do you think? Even if the guy is attractive and has a nice personality does not meen that guy is a girls "type". What a girl wants is very specific and varys greatly from girl to girl as where men we are much more collective when it comes to what we want our girl to look like and her characteristics.
Sweetheartt Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 As a status quo, women have the problem of choosing the right man out of as many as they care to meet, men have the problem of getting the time of day from any woman they see. /so its hard to say but even if a guy is very attractive and is nice (not a pushover though) that still doesn't mean that most girls would date him. So I say it is a little harder for men what do you think? Even if the guy is attractive and has a nice personality does not meen that guy is a girls "type". What a girl wants is very specific and varys greatly from girl to girl as where men we are much more collective when it comes to what we want our girl to look like and her characteristics. How old are u? Im 19 so Im not that picky when it comes to some things as long he's cute got his **** together and knows how to approach me we good lol.
Author Mixed28 Posted July 4, 2011 Author Posted July 4, 2011 How old are u? Im 19 so Im not that picky when it comes to some things as long he's cute got his **** together and knows how to approach me we good lol. I am 19. Most people at my christian uni are in a relationship. Its difficult to find someone.
runner Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 oh dear- another woe-is-me, life-is-so-hard-being-a-boy thread. both genders have it hard, and both have inherent benefit. *yawn*
P&R Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 (edited) Sure... it might be that way but crying over it won't help anything. With the amount of time you spend aguishing over this subject you could be improving yourself. With that I have three words to leave Get. Over. It. By the way in most first world countries there are more women than men. Edited July 4, 2011 by P&R
Queen Zenobia Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 By the way in most first world countries there are more women than men. Misleading statistic. If you look at the young population there is approximately 105 men for every 100 women. The overall population has more women because women live longer. Everything else you said was fine, just this "fact" was not completely honest. Unless the OP wants to date senior citizens.
Author Mixed28 Posted July 4, 2011 Author Posted July 4, 2011 I know there is nothing we can do and I will improve myself. I just wanted to see if anyone agreed with me that it is harder for males to find a date or girlfriend.
Author Mixed28 Posted July 4, 2011 Author Posted July 4, 2011 Yes and no i don't post much on the dating forum.
kalikula Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 There could not be any more threads on this. This forum is full of bitter, angry men who feel they have the short end of life. You all need to change your attitude. The grass isn't greener on the other side.
oaks Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 So I say it is a little harder for men what do you think? I think we just had a lengthy discussion on this in another thread. I don't think it's worth doing it all again.
oaks Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 Don't you think that the fact that theres so many men who are bitter about dating than there is women... actually you know confirms that dating actually is harder for men? What else would be the explanation? Why else would there be more bitter men than bitter women? Well, it could just be because guys are a bunch of babies when we don't get what we want. But, being bitter isn't going to get you a girl, so suck it up.
rafallus Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 As a status quo, women have the problem of choosing the right man out of as many as they care to meet, men have the problem of getting the time of day from any woman they see. /so its hard to say but even if a guy is very attractive and is nice (not a pushover though) that still doesn't mean that most girls would date him. So I say it is a little harder for men what do you think? Even if the guy is attractive and has a nice personality does not meen that guy is a girls "type". What a girl wants is very specific and varys greatly from girl to girl as where men we are much more collective when it comes to what we want our girl to look like and her characteristics. Maybe so. Then again it begs several burning questions: Will writing here about it help you land a date? Will writing here about it change things for guys all around? Why even bother to do so? Life's not fair, never was, never will be. You'll be better of if you just accept it, and keep doing what you can the best.
oaks Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 If a woman said men murder women more than vice versa, would you call her bitter? No you wouldn't because its a FACT. I was reflecting your use of the word bitter, which was probably influenced by kalikula's use of the word, so I'm not sure what your point is. I find it a bit difficult to draw a useful comparison between the emotions that arise from being single and the statistics of murder. Explain it if you think it's helpful. Oh, hang on, I think you're just saying that complaining that something isn't fair doesn't automatically mean that the complainer is bitter. Yes, I'll give you that if that's what you meant. Life isn't fair, sorry about that.
oaks Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 It's not any different when I state men have it harder than women when dating, I'm just telling it like it is because its the truth. No, it's debatable that it's the truth unlike the black-and-white factual statistics about number of murders/murderers by sex. (and we had a 10-page thread on that debate over the weekend, which probably demonstrates that it's not a widely held belief that it's as true as you say)
musemaj11 Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 One biggest advantage of being a woman is that their pressure to seek a mate is mostly psychological not biological. They seek a mate simply because they feel that others are judging her for not having a partner or not having a family at a certain age. On the other hand, men's pressure to seek a mate is strongly biological. Their testosterone keeps knocking non-stop no matter how much they try to not care being single. This is why single men tend to be a lot more frustrated and angry than single women.
oaks Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 Ok, make lets say 5 arguements that women and men have it equally hard. No. Didn't we do this thread already? Ok. You win. I really can't be bothered.
runner Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 this thread should be moved to the rant section. i really don't see any helpful discussion happening here. just a bunch of whiners on a soapbox. free the male gender evanglism
runner Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 Same old story with you women though. You NEVER come up with any good arguement that says otherwise, NONE of you, EVER, ONLY the oh so typical "whiners" and similar insults. Thats ALL I ever see from you. I can only assume you have nothing good to say and don't really have any arguement to prove that it's actually equally hard for both men and women. i can't provide a counter-argument to what clearly appears to be a bitter rant, so i won't bother. i'm not here to be your mother and calm you down. as for being called a 'whiner': how's a taste of your own medicine ? you're calling everyone here who didn't agree with you to be 'fools'
runner Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 it's not about phrasing; if anything i'm quite forgiving with language use. rather, it's about providing solid evidence, and you simply don't have any. case dissmissed
runner Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 it's about providing solid evidence, and you simply don't have any. case dissmissed quoting myself and then i'm done wasting my time with this. oh LS, thank you for the ignore button now time to enjoy my beautiful, sunny summer day. perfect day for a date
Disillusioned Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 Sorry, people, I've caught on to your pattern. "Bitter" was one of the popular buzzwords, "issues" was another until people got hip to it. Now we have "woe-is-me men". How long before that one wears out? It's just the same old dumb little games, and everyone knows it. Men need sex/love, women will keep from giving it to them. Accept it.
rafallus Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 Men need sex/love, women will keep from giving it to them. So women don't need sex nor love? Interesting.
oaks Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 I'll post my "evidence" again but I'll doubt you will respond to them.. "Men do the approaching. What's hard about this? It does take some time, although a woman has to be available to be approached - eg sat at the bar looking pretty. She had to get ready, too, and probably spent longer than me on her hair, face and clothes. Men risk rejection. What's the actual risk? and, what's hard about it? Men put in all the effort. This seems to be an umbrella for all the rest, unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean. However, I don't think it's true. Women put in some effort, too. Men do the wooing and romancing. Men does the pursuing. I'm not sure why you separated pursuing from the other two, but can you expand what you mean by this? I'm sure that wooing, romancing and pursuing have all been reciprocated in relationships I've been in, although I would agree that it's generally men that lead or make the first moves etc. How is it hard? and how is it harder for men than for women who wonder when the right man is going to do some wooing/romancing/pursuing while simultaneously getting frustrated at the wrong men attempting same? Men initiate all contact, calls, texts, emails etc etc" All? I'm sorry that you've had that experience, but I promise you that it's not true! Anyway, why is it hard for you to make a phone call? If you initiate it then at least you have the advantage of doing it at a convenient time and you can even think in advance about what you want to say.
oaks Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 To answer with just one sentence here. IT WOULD BE NICE IF THE WOMAN SHOWED THAT SHE ACTUALLY WANTED YOU FROM TIME TO TIME. Disappointed that you can't address the points I raised, which seemed to be what you wanted people to do with your list that was supposed to support your argument. I agree that it's nice when affection is reciprocated. That's one of the best parts of being in a relationship. Also, I'm sorry that you're not finding women who actually show that they want you. I promise you that not all women are like this, even if that's been the case in your experience. I feel that you're extrapolating from your experiences and generalising that dating is like that for everyone. I don't think that's the case. Yes none of those things are actually that hard, but men constantly shower their woman with love and affection and in dating shower them with "intrest"... and get nothing back. Ahh. Not hard. Good. Yes, I agree that it is frustrating to have such a one-sided experience. I suggest less showering until there's at least a hint of something coming back.
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