Ok, are women just biatches on purpose or do they not know unless called on it

[Taramere]

I dont know where you get this from... sometimes people are just flat out bitchy and you're better off writting them off as such than waste your time trying to negotiate wih them.

 

Then write people off if you feel that way.

 

The OP says

 

I've noticed that a lot of women are really bitchy. Who knows the reasons and for this thread that's not important. My question is do they act this way on purpose or are they not aware of how they come off. Things like talking down to people, using rude tones of voice, cutting people of in mid sentence, etc.

 

All the things he's described there are things most people will find themselves doing at some point (if they employ some self awareness as opposed to simply being on the look-out for other people's bad behaviour).

 

We know that interrupting people is rude, but sometimes we do it because subjectively we think a person has held court for long enough. We know that it's socially wrong to use a rude tone of voice, but sometimes we do it because subjectively we believe somebody crossed the line in the way they behaved towards us.

 

You took issue with me saying

 

It's probably fair to say that people in the latter category (ie who tend to divide others into "nice" or "bitch/arsehole" categories) are probably going to have a more difficult, angrier and generally frustrating life.

 

....but why wouldn't an adult with that approach to life find life difficult?

 

If somebody takes the view that good relationships arise from the other person being "nice" and that conflict results from the other person being a bitch or an arsehole then that suggests they don't feel they have any responsibility for how their interactions with other people go.

 

If they don't feel any responsibility for how their exchanges with other people go, then it follows that they don't feel any power. So of course life feels difficult, and of course they feel frustrated.

[Ruby Slippers]

You only desire jerks and *******s. What in the hell do you expect?

Nope. I've dated mostly intellectual, nerdy "nice guys" -- only one real jock.

[Tayla]

I will objectively agree that in this journey thru life I have met upon "bitchy" females. Its often an awkward scenario in which I bow my head in shame as somewhere along the way I myself must have carried that demeanor. Fortunately thru being "called" out to the carpet on this and learning other ways to communicate, its less an attitude and more a state of gratitude that one can change.

 

In the work force where "bitchiness" runs rampant I often think, when is that person going to get the thorn out of their side and learn to deal with life on lifes' terms. If you have to "fight" to be right or be heard maybe you need to just listen and learn....

[Untouchable_Fire]

I've spent most of my life being sweet and considerate with people, and it hasn't gotten me very far with men in particular. When you're good to them, they take you for granted. They respond better and I get more of what I want when I'm bitchy.

 

This is a really good point. When I am in a relationship usually my "needs" are pretty low, so I don't really put much energy into controlling what my GF does or doesn't do.

 

However, most women have very high need levels... and if she wants the dishes done now and asks me, bitchy might get me to do it right away while nice might get me to do it on my own time schedule.

 

I think most guys are varying degrees of this.

[Woggle]

I don't know why they do but usually coming right back at them straightens it right out. Women tend to only get this kind of attitude with men they know they can walk all over. I remember the only man my mother ever treated with respect flat stared her right down and refused to take any crap from her. He damn near turned her into a submissive kitten. Of course when he left her for an actual nice woman she went right back to hating men.

 

Some women confuse being a strong woman with being an intolerable bitch who treats people like crap.

[EasyHeart]

I don't know why they do but usually coming right back at them straightens it right out. Women tend to only get this kind of attitude with men they know they can walk all over. I remember the only man my mother ever treated with respect flat stared her right down and refused to take any crap from her. He damn near turned her into a submissive kitten. Of course when he left her for an actual nice woman she went right back to hating men.

 

Some women confuse being a strong woman with being an intolerable bitch who treats people like crap.

Well said.

[Woggle]

If you look at many women who act like this underneath the hard exterior they are still frightened little girls. I am not comparing women to animals but if you look a cat that is hissing, clawing and screaming like a banshee it is because it is scared to death. That is how it is with many of these women. They have been hurt and they have a suit of armor they show to the world.

 

I have found that woman with a strong inner core tend to have a very kind nature but don't you dare try and step on them.

[singlelife]

If you look at many women who act like this underneath the hard exterior they are still frightened little girls. I am not comparing women to animals but if you look a cat that is hissing, clawing and screaming like a banshee it is because it is scared to death. That is how it is with many of these women. They have been hurt and they have a suit of armor they show to the world.

 

I have found that woman with a strong inner core tend to have a very kind nature but don't you dare try and step on them.

 

 

Yeah the woman I was dating said something like " You won't run over me" So whether she was hurt before or not I am not gonna keep going like this with her going off frequently. When you are trying to protect yourself when noone is trying to hurt you then you are then the attacker. I moved on. She needs a wussy because unless she like so many women out there get a grip this is what they eventually wind up with. We have all seen how that works out for them.

[singlelife]

females lie daily

 

 

Hmmm. I wasn't going to go there.

[Woggle]

Yeah the woman I was dating said something like " You won't run over me" So whether she was hurt before or not I am not gonna keep going like this with her going off frequently. When you are trying to protect yourself when noone is trying to hurt you then you are then the attacker. I moved on. She needs a wussy because unless she like so many women out there get a grip this is what they eventually wind up with. We have all seen how that works out for them.

 

To be honest I have been like that before. I was so determined not to end up like my father and how I was in my first marriage that I overdid it. I now realize destructive it was. There is no reason to fight if somebody is not the enemy.

[singlelife]

To be honest I have been like that before. I was so determined not to end up like my father and how I was in my first marriage that I overdid it. I now realize destructive it was. There is no reason to fight if somebody is not the enemy.

 

 

Exactly. There is such a thing as a peaceful household.

[singlelife]

There is no such thing as equality, either. There will always be gender wars.

 

The best you can do is learn to live with it.

 

You are dead on. Live long and prosperous!!!

[udolipixie]

Some women act like b*tches when men test their boundaries and need to be checked.

 

Just like how guys put girls in their place when women test their boundaries.

[singlelife]

Some women act like b*tches when men test their boundaries and need to be checked.

 

Just like how guys put girls in their place when women test their boundaries.

 

 

Interesting. It does seem that there has to be a stopping place.