Ok, are women just biatches on purpose or do they not know unless called on it

[singlelife]

I've noticed that a lot of women are really bitchy. Who knows the reasons and for this thread that's not important. My question is do they act this way on purpose or are they not aware of how they come off. Things like talking down to people, using rude tones of voice, cutting people of in mid sentence, etc. Because when you leave these women alone or bring it up to them it turns into a big defensive argument or they don't understand why I'd rather not mess with them. I bet the anwsers will be interesting. But I am curious.

[carhill]

I recall calling my best friend's wife a bitch once. Stopped her in her tracks. I later apologized to both and his words were, exactly 'yeah, she'll keep pushing and pushing you. You gotta set a limit.' He wasn't angry at all.

 

I don't often care enough about anyone IRL to call them out on their behavior like that. She's bi-polar and I had had my fill. We're fine now.

 

Most women who display such behaviors simply get erased. Life's too short. Someone else can educate them.

[singlelife]

I recall calling my best friend's wife a bitch once. Stopped her in her tracks. I later apologized to both and his words were, exactly 'yeah, she'll keep pushing and pushing you. You gotta set a limit.' He wasn't angry at all.

 

I don't often care enough about anyone IRL to call them out on their behavior like that. She's bi-polar and I had had my fill. We're fine now.

 

Most women who display such behaviors simply get erased. Life's too short. Someone else can educate them.

 

 

Interesting. So in that case she just was going to go as far as you will let it go. She wasn't really mad or anything.

[carhill]

More like nagging and bitching, combined with 'walking on eggshells' due to her bi-polar light-switch behaviors, where asking 'how are you?' could result in getting one's head bit off. My mom had just died and I had little patience for that kind of cr@p so I let her have it.

 

Otherwise, with anyone else, the closest I've come was 'I deserve better than that' and then erased them.

 

I do recall telling my now exW to eat shyte and die. Meant every word of it too.

Edited July 3, 2011 by carhill

[singlelife]

More like nagging and bitching, combined with 'walking on eggshells' due to her bi-polar light-switch behaviors, where asking 'how are you?' could result in getting one's head bit off. My mom had just died and I had little patience for that kind of cr@p so I let her have it.

 

Otherwise, with anyone else, the closest I've come was 'I deserve better than that' and then erased them.

 

I do recall telling my now exW to eat shyte and die. Meant every word of it too.

 

 

 

I wonder how much of most women's attitude is bi polar?

[carhill]

IME, little. I just happen to know some women with the disease. People, including myself, can exercise a modicum of control. IME, enabling unhealthy behaviors is a relatively short path to those behaviors becoming ingrained. If there are few or no consequences, then there is little disincentive to change/alter/grow. When I was younger, I opined that a woman can always find another man who wants to fµck her so there are, in most cases, no negative results to negative behaviors. I guess eventually she'll run out of men who want to fµck her but she'll likely be an old lady by then.

 

IMO, the best thing to do is just avoid people like that.

 

TBH, a lot of the 'stuff' with my bmf's wife is due to our long friendship and me being the 'good brother' that she never had, as she has some real winners (not) for siblings, most of whom I've met. So, when I'm not meeting her expectations, LOL, I get shyte. If I get too much shyte, I call her on it. My best friend stays out of it. Wise man She's incredibly loving and caring too, so there is a balance, though somewhat precarious at times.

 

TBH, most of the women I currently call friends are kind, loving human beings with little one might term 'bitchiness'. IMO, at their ages (most are 50's-up), they know exactly when they're being bitchy, and why, so it is definitely purposeful.

[singlelife]

IME, little. I just happen to know some women with the disease. People, including myself, can exercise a modicum of control. IME, enabling unhealthy behaviors is a relatively short path to those behaviors becoming ingrained. If there are few or no consequences, then there is little disincentive to change/alter/grow. When I was younger, I opined that a woman can always find another man who wants to fµck her so there are, in most cases, no negative results to negative behaviors. I guess eventually she'll run out of men who want to fµck her but she'll likely be an old lady by then.

 

IMO, the best thing to do is just avoid people like that.

 

TBH, a lot of the 'stuff' with my bmf's wife is due to our long friendship and me being the 'good brother' that she never had, as she has some real winners (not) for siblings, most of whom I've met. So, when I'm not meeting her expectations, LOL, I get shyte. If I get too much shyte, I call her on it. My best friend stays out of it. Wise man She's incredibly loving and caring too, so there is a balance, though somewhat precarious at times.

 

TBH, most of the women I currently call friends are kind, loving human beings with little one might term 'bitchiness'. IMO, at their ages (most are 50's-up), they know exactly when they're being bitchy, and why, so it is definitely purposeful.

 

 

Wow!! So since it's on purpose do they realize they can push men away ( friends or bf ) and that they will then have the false friends and fwb to rely on? Being left alone is a reality of life. Everything doesn't end up rosy. Also what you're saying is they been allowed to do it so long they can't change and the best way is to check them on it when their young.

[singlelife]

Also noticed when you treat a biatch good once you leave them alone and they go out and see that men inly want to have sex that go through all that ( a lot of time that's the only incentive ) then they try to be friends again and have a hard time with you when you don't want to be friends.

[StoneCold]

Many times my wife will line step...and when I bluntly put her in her place she backs right off.

 

You have to do this with women because they are constantly testing your patientce and they will push and push and push until you push back and then they'll go running for the hills.

 

 

If you dont push back they'll walk all over you and wont respect you.

[singlelife]

Yeah I guess you got a pt. Women have to be checked every now and then. According to what you say they don't really want a man to leave them alone they just want to test them. Probably why their world falls apart after they get left because they got the opposite of what they really want.

[Mrlonelyone]

I hate to be the one to point it out....but... men do the same sorts of things too.

 

There are some people who will test your boundaries and try to walk all over everyone around them if they can get away with it. They will do things like you know... call you a monkey or some other inhuman animal. They will insult and act a fool. Yes men do this too.

 

What some of you are describing is the way some women will abuse a man in a domestic relationship. They won't hit you, they'll just push and push and push as if they want you to cuss them out or even slap them.

[Taramere]

Yeah I guess you got a pt. Women have to be checked every now and then.

 

So do men. Which is why women sometimes act like bitches. On purpose.

 

Sorry Mrlonelyone - I just saw your post there. Pretty much re-iterating what you're saying. Regardless of our gender, sometimes we have to lay out our boundaries - and sometimes other people will call us bitches or *********s for doing so.

Edited July 3, 2011 by Taramere

[Mme. Chaucer]

I don't know I'm a beeyotch.

[singlelife]

So do men. Which is why women sometimes act like bitches. On purpose.

 

Sorry Mrlonelyone - I just saw your post there. Pretty much re-iterating what you're saying. Regardless of our gender, sometimes we have to lay out our boundaries - and sometimes other people will call us bitches or *********s for doing so.

 

 

So you're saying that women act like bitches to keep from being hurt by men? They don't just have bad attitudes when they do this at all?

[Eve]

Men and women can be bitches.

 

I stay away from them and call them out only when I have to. I think the behaviour is there mostly on purpose to control others and is often reinforced by other bitches.

 

They will always say the other person started.. whatever. This is the true sign of a committed bitch.

 

Take care,

Eve x

[rafallus]

Everyone can push one another's boundary to see, what they can get away from, regardless of sex. Lesson: be tough.

[Taramere]

So you're saying that women act like bitches to keep from being hurt by men? They don't just have bad attitudes when they do this at all?

 

You have to examine each communication on its own merits. My position is that if somebody says or does something to me which I find offensive, I will react in a way that lets them know. I think it's better to speak up for what I think is right, than to play nice and pretend to be happy when I'm not.

 

Obviously there's a responsibility to try to do it in a way that promotes useful discussion rather than angry conflict. Which is that "reasonable" ground between "too nice" and conflict-hungry in a way that is destructive to human interaction.

 

People's notions of what constitutes "bad attitude" vary. One man's reasonable woman who can be negotiated with like an adult is another man's condescending bitch who should be put in her place. You could switch the genders around and it would be much the same.

 

It's probably fair to say that people in the latter category (ie who tend to divide others into "nice" or "bitch/arsehole" categories) are probably going to have a more difficult, angrier and generally frustrating life.

[phineas]

So do men. Which is why women sometimes act like bitches. On purpose.

 

Sorry Mrlonelyone - I just saw your post there. Pretty much re-iterating what you're saying. Regardless of our gender, sometimes we have to lay out our boundaries - and sometimes other people will call us bitches or *********s for doing so.

 

so because a few men were jerks to them they have a free pass to act that way?

 

I know what OP is talking about. I have met women with the "if you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best attitude" right off the bat.

 

buh-bye. not even going to waste the energy.

 

Far as i'm concerned there is no excuse for that behavior from anyone regardless of gender.

[Taramere]

so because a few men were jerks to them they have a free pass to act that way?

 

What way, specifically?

[TaraMaiden]

Just as a complete aside, I think the derogatory term 'Bi*tch' is extremely insulting to dogs.

 

Who are mostly far better creatures than some people.....

[singlelife]

so because a few men were jerks to them they have a free pass to act that way?

 

I know what OP is talking about. I have met women with the "if you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best attitude" right off the bat.

 

buh-bye. not even going to waste the energy.

 

Far as i'm concerned there is no excuse for that behavior from anyone regardless of gender.

 

 

Exactly. Sad thing is when the good men with backbones leave them alone then they are stuck with the wusses. Good luck at a good life with that ladies because we all know that's not what you want.

[StoneCold]

It's probably fair to say that people in the latter category (ie who tend to divide others into "nice" or "bitch/arsehole" categories) are probably going to have a more difficult, angrier and generally frustrating life.

 

 

I dont know where you get this from... sometimes people are just flat out bitchy and you're better off writting them off as such than waste your time trying to negotiate wih them.

[Ruby Slippers]

I've spent most of my life being sweet and considerate with people, and it hasn't gotten me very far with men in particular. When you're good to them, they take you for granted. They respond better and I get more of what I want when I'm bitchy.

[StoneCold]

I have met women with the "if you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best attitude" right off the bat.

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I too met many women like this....something is wrong with everyone else not them lol.

 

"oh he cant handle me/it...."

 

lol... uh sweetheart this may come as a shock to you but I dont need you nor do I have to put up with any or your crap thank you very much; I have better things to do with my time and energy. Plenty of other women out there....PASS

[Shaun-Dro]

I've noticed that a lot of women are really bitchy. Who knows the reasons and for this thread that's not important. My question is do they act this way on purpose or are they not aware of how they come off. Things like talking down to people, using rude tones of voice, cutting people of in mid sentence, etc. Because when you leave these women alone or bring it up to them it turns into a big defensive argument or they don't understand why I'd rather not mess with them. I bet the anwsers will be interesting. But I am curious.

 

You learn to be a man (or whoever you are) and straighten their butts out if they disrespect you. Just because she has a vagina means nothing. She is beneath the man anyway so why let her get away with anything?