Author USMCHokie Posted July 2, 2011 Author Posted July 2, 2011 Forget most of the responses here and do what makes you happy. You're a young guy and if you feel the need it isn't going to be the end of your world. However, I have always lived by the philosophy of having fun, but recognizing when you have a catch. Crazy nights are great, but these guys are exaggerating and the truth is that for most guys most of those nights will suck. Maybe once a month you'll run into the right bar with the right girls. [/Quote] Yea that's true...I guess hearing about these guys (they no sh*t get theirs every weekend...like there's witnesses...in the same hotel room...) gets frustrates me and makes me feel a little inferior... Oh, stay away from the Norfolk/Va Beach scene though. All anyone does there is sleep with someone's wife or gf. It's funny you say this...we were actually in Va Beach last weekend...we hung out with this group of girls for a while and at the end of the night they all left with their boyfriends who showed up...hilarious...we blamed our point man for that one...no one scored...
Author USMCHokie Posted July 2, 2011 Author Posted July 2, 2011 Maybe it's your race? I blamed it on that for the better part of my life...
FNClassyTattooGirl Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 you should just let them on with their ways and find you a girl and prove to them know youre not like the rest. i grew up in a marine family and have always been around marines and the military not all of them are ******* and scumbags. you need to be the one guy thats unlike the rest and trust me itll pay off in the end
Author USMCHokie Posted July 2, 2011 Author Posted July 2, 2011 you should just let them on with their ways and find you a girl and prove to them know youre not like the rest. i grew up in a marine family and have always been around marines and the military not all of them are ******* and scumbags. you need to be the one guy thats unlike the rest and trust me itll pay off in the end See, for the longest time, I always felt like I was the one who didn't need all that, like you're saying...but after a while being surrounded by guys who are capable of something you apparently aren't, it starts to wear on you and make you doubt yourself...as another poster said earlier, guys (especially Marines) can tend to be uber competitive...even though we don't intend to compete on who can bed the most women, I'm sure subconsciously it's like everything else that becomes a dick measuring contest...
Author USMCHokie Posted July 2, 2011 Author Posted July 2, 2011 Sometimes it's during a particular period of an individual's life, for whatever reasons, and other times it's because people are horny and just want sex. I don't think it's because I just want sex...I seriously gave up some incredible sex with the girl I was dating not too long ago...I think I just wanted to prove to myself that I was just as desirable as any of the other guys...I will admit (and my friends have told me this a number of times) that I get checked out based on my physique...a lot...and of course I'm doubtful of whether I can even do anything with what I have and attract people superficially... I know it's weird...
Author USMCHokie Posted July 2, 2011 Author Posted July 2, 2011 Take those stories with a gigantic grain of salt until you actually SEE the women they are getting with as in being at least in the next room so you know the real deal. If I were placed in the situation one of my other friends was placed in that night, I probably would have punched someone...because the other friend was actually in the same bed as my friend and the two girls...and he vouched for the quality of said girls...and watched the whole thing...why this other friend never joined in is a mystery that none of us have been able to figure out...
make me believe Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 they no sh*t get theirs every weekend...like there's witnesses...in the same hotel room... the other friend was actually in the same bed as my friend and the two girls...and he vouched for the quality of said girls...and watched the whole thing Ok seriously, this all just sounds so gross! Do you reeealllly want to be banging some chick while your friend watches from the other side of the bed?!
shadowofman Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 Um, I beg to differ. The opposite of gross, group sex is sexy! I've had many threesomes, MFM and FMF. I am by no means an alpha male. But I do enjoy sex of all sorts. Different stokes, ya know. I have experienced envy of others. Seen really sub-par dudes get amazing women. But good things come to those who wait. The trick is not to consider such acts as conquests. But simply good times. I do not disrespect women, though I'm not opposed if that's what they are into. Likewise, relationships are something that I tend to want as well. But I have to make an effort to avoid them. The only way I would ever enter into one is if I found that perfect bisexual female that is interested in the same lifestyle as me. No need to sow your wild oats. Wait for a complimentary mate.
Sanman Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 Yea that's true...I guess hearing about these guys (they no sh*t get theirs every weekend...like there's witnesses...in the same hotel room...) gets frustrates me and makes me feel a little inferior... It's funny you say this...we were actually in Va Beach last weekend...we hung out with this group of girls for a while and at the end of the night they all left with their boyfriends who showed up...hilarious...we blamed our point man for that one...no one scored... That is the usual for the area. Just be glad you didn't bang a superior officer's girl. Were you down by the oceanfront with the tourist or at Peabody's? I prefer downtown norfolk and colley ave closer to the base. Baxter's sports bar always seemed to have a good mix and it has a cool lounge upstairs. I knew a guy who used to own a few clubs down there as well as the gym downtown. Those are bad either. Red Dog Saloon was always my favorite to chill out with a beer.
snug.bunny Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 I don't think it's because I just want sex...I seriously gave up some incredible sex with the girl I was dating not too long ago...I think I just wanted to prove to myself that I was just as desirable as any of the other guys...I will admit (and my friends have told me this a number of times) that I get checked out based on my physique...a lot...and of course I'm doubtful of whether I can even do anything with what I have and attract people superficially... I know it's weird... Ok so if I understand you correctly, you are able to attract women physically when you are out with your friends. You don't necessarily "want to sew your oats", but you want the option to? Or, is it that you you are able to attract women physically when you are out with your friends, but you want to be the center of attention with these women? Orrrrr lastly, you are able to attract women physically when you are out with your friends, but you are not as outgoing as your friends are when you are out surrounded by women? If it's the last one, yes, I can personally relate. I tend to be more introverted when I am out with my friends, and my one female friend generally becomes the focal point because she is very confident, flirty, etc. She tells me, that guys will constantly stare at me, but that I give off the "don't talk to me look". Unless of course I have a few drinks in me, then I tend to come out of my shell a bit more. That's all I can think of for now.
shadowofman Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 Hahahaha. I wasn't even going to go there. Hell, I've been in the SAME hole with another man.
Dust Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 I say you go wild this holiday weekend. Get good and buzzed, hit the clubs. Dance with a bunch of girls. Make out with the hottest one on the dance floor. Have a good time. Then when the clubs are closed go to some after hour hang out place like a popular pizza restaurant or diner. Cat call out to all the women “looking good” “what do I have to do to get inside of you?” What ever it is you wanted to do, do it! Your friends aren’t better then you by the way for being wild men. I actually look down on that type of thing. I remember going to a club and getting really drunk. I danced with girls. Kissed some. Got girls numbers. I kept drinking till I was falling asleep and throwing up. They threw me out of the club via a back entrance into an alley way with the trash. I threw up some more in the bushes. I then had to wait about half an hour or so till my friend who was my ride got out of the club. I then tried to get in a limo with a bridal party because I was hitting on a bridesmaid who was part of the big bachelorette party. I got kicked out of the limo but got the girls number. That was pretty typical for me when I was younger. Getting in trouble and getting thrown out of clubs. Hitting on random women and having it go no where. I kissed girls but I never had one night stands. This was all pretty much after undergrad to by the way. I was pretty reserved all though out college and HS. When I was 22 was when I started getting a little more daring. So, yeah go for it. Drink till you get thrown out of the club if you dare. Holler out and random women and hit on them. Make out with a random girl. Heck maybe even have sex with a random girl if you want it that bad. Good luck.
Nexus One Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 I too know players and see the girls they f*ck. Most of those girls I'm not attracted to. Every once in a while they screw a hot girl/woman, but never have I seen them win over a truly beautiful girl, i.e. the type I could develop a crush on. Note that players would f*ck just about anything and that they gravitate towards the easiest p*ssy and if they f*ck so many girls, then of course there's going to be a range of girls in their pool, but that range tends to have a ceiling. The type of girls/women I'm interested in are above that ceiling in terms of looks and class, but that doesn't mean I don't have to check with a player if they did a particular girl/woman that I like or if they know her. (I do that check just to make sure.) USMCHokie, you have to look at who you are. Do you feel in your heart that you are a player, that you have the character to do what they do? My intuition says no. In my opinion you should go for the girl/woman that you (can) develop a crush on, the type of girl/woman that rings all your bells, the type of woman you know you could spend your entire life with, because you want to. The kind of girl that ends all other girls. To that, there is no comparison.
Author USMCHokie Posted July 2, 2011 Author Posted July 2, 2011 Ok so if I understand you correctly, you are able to attract women physically when you are out with your friends. You don't necessarily "want to sew your oats", but you want the option to? Or, is it that you you are able to attract women physically when you are out with your friends, but you want to be the center of attention with these women? Orrrrr lastly, you are able to attract women physically when you are out with your friends, but you are not as outgoing as your friends are when you are out surrounded by women? If it's the last one, yes, I can personally relate. I tend to be more introverted when I am out with my friends, and my one female friend generally becomes the focal point because she is very confident, flirty, etc. She tells me, that guys will constantly stare at me, but that I give off the "don't talk to me look". Unless of course I have a few drinks in me, then I tend to come out of my shell a bit more. That's all I can think of for now. I guess I should clarify...I only get the attention when I'm not with them or when I'm with them and I don't have a shirt on... Going out with them usually goes like this: if I start talking to a girl, she quickly loses interest if one of my friends comes up and then she starts chatting him up...I then say f*ck it and walk away...if this happens enough times in one night, I usually just go home...I don't need to be the center of attention and actually would rather not be... It's not that my friends are more outgoing than me...they are just that good looking that women will make all the effort to go to them...
Author USMCHokie Posted July 2, 2011 Author Posted July 2, 2011 Ok seriously, this all just sounds so gross! Do you reeealllly want to be banging some chick while your friend watches from the other side of the bed?! Oh hell no! But it's what tends to happen when you cram 8 dudes in a single hotel room...and it's crazy what kind of trashy girls are willing to come back to the room and still have sex with other people in the room (or bed)...
Author USMCHokie Posted July 2, 2011 Author Posted July 2, 2011 That is the usual for the area. Just be glad you didn't bang a superior officer's girl. Were you down by the oceanfront with the tourist or at Peabody's? I prefer downtown norfolk and colley ave closer to the base. Baxter's sports bar always seemed to have a good mix and it has a cool lounge upstairs. I knew a guy who used to own a few clubs down there as well as the gym downtown. Those are bad either. Red Dog Saloon was always my favorite to chill out with a beer. We stuck with the bars along Atlantic Ave and the numbered streets in Va Beach...girls certainly don't seem to be as loose as those in DC...I don't think we're ever going back...
Nexus One Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 I guess I should clarify...I only get the attention when I'm not with them or when I'm with them and I don't have a shirt on... Going out with them usually goes like this: if I start talking to a girl, she quickly loses interest if one of my friends comes up and then she starts chatting him up...I then say f*ck it and walk away...if this happens enough times in one night, I usually just go home...I don't need to be the center of attention and actually would rather not be... It's not that my friends are more outgoing than me...they are just that good looking that women will make all the effort to go to them... Dude, you've been/are in the navy, yet you don't see the tactical error you're making here? I'd explain what you're doing wrong, but I'm not going to help you become a player.
Author USMCHokie Posted July 2, 2011 Author Posted July 2, 2011 USMCHokie, you have to look at who you are. Do you feel in your heart that you are a player, that you have the character to do what they do? My intuition says no. In my opinion you should go for the girl/woman that you (can) develop a crush on, the type of girl/woman that rings all your bells, the type of woman you know you could spend your entire life with, because you want to. The kind of girl that ends all other girls. To that, there is no comparison. The first girl I ever slept with a few years ago was a one night stand...and after that experience, I told myself I'd never have sex outside of a relationship...I've always wanted exactly what you're describing above...but being around these guys makes it sound so tempting...I guess I'm not as unimpressionable as I thought...
Author USMCHokie Posted July 2, 2011 Author Posted July 2, 2011 Dude, you've been/are in the navy, yet you don't see the tactical error you're making here? I'd explain what you're doing wrong, but I'm not going to help you become a player. I've never been competitive with other guys when it comes to women. If I ever get sniped like that, I've always just walked away...
veggirl Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 Tell your friends that when they see you talking to a girl, to stay away! Honestly from how you sound in your posts, I would bet after one um...conquest(?)...you won't want to do it again.
snug.bunny Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 I guess I should clarify...I only get the attention when I'm not with them or when I'm with them and I don't have a shirt on... Going out with them usually goes like this: if I start talking to a girl, she quickly loses interest if one of my friends comes up and then she starts chatting him up...I then say f*ck it and walk away...if this happens enough times in one night, I usually just go home...I don't need to be the center of attention and actually would rather not be... It's not that my friends are more outgoing than me...they are just that good looking that women will make all the effort to go to them... Well, you could go the dishonest route, if that's what you choose to do. Next time, when you're talking to a female, and your friend(s) come over, whisper into the girl's ear that they were recently arrested for (make something up) and you're their parole officer? :laugh:
Author USMCHokie Posted July 2, 2011 Author Posted July 2, 2011 Tell your friends that when they see you talking to a girl, to stay away! Honestly from how you sound in your posts, I would bet after one um...conquest(?)...you won't want to do it again. Heh, my friends aren't the type that would intentionally take the attention from a girl away from me...it just happens...and sometimes they try to divert them back to me, but by then, I'm usually gone... And I regret using the word "conquest" in my OP, because in no way are my friends being deceitful or dishonest with these girls...my friends are really that awesome...and that good looking... The girls seem to want it more than my friends do...seriously...
Author USMCHokie Posted July 2, 2011 Author Posted July 2, 2011 Well, you could go the dishonest route, if that's what you choose to do. I would never use the dishonest route, nor would any of my friends, as I said in the post above. The most dishonest thing we would ever do is jokingly lie about what we did for a living...e.g., I am always a large animal veterinarian from Stratford, CT... Next time, when you're talking to a female, and your friend(s) come over, whisper into the girl's ear that they were recently arrested for (make something up) and you're their parole officer? :laugh: Hahah, brilliant.
snug.bunny Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 Heh, my friends aren't the type that would intentionally take the attention from a girl away from me...it just happens...and sometimes they try to divert them back to me, but by then, I'm usually gone... I'm generally in the same mindset. It didn't affect me to such an extent, that I want/needed to stick around. I'm generally in my own zone anyway when I've gone out, and 98% of the time, wasn't out to meet anyone, but instead enjoy a cocktail, with some good music, good ambiance, and kick back with my friends!
Author USMCHokie Posted July 2, 2011 Author Posted July 2, 2011 ...when I've gone out, and 98% of the time, wasn't out to meet anyone, but instead enjoy a cocktail, with some good music, good ambiance, and kick back with my friends! And this is usually how I approach going out too, but it's hard not to want to leave when your guys basically ditch you to talk to girls. And then when you try to find a conversation of your own, it turns into "oooh, who's your friend...? :love:"
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