Author KOH Posted June 30, 2011 Author Posted June 30, 2011 Women can't shout their right to have casual sex from the rooftops while at the same time acting like the poor victim when they get it. Women are not fragile little flowers. funny thing, I've told my female friend something like that, & she was offended, she said she's not a feminist & she didn't mean it that way. I didn't know there were women that hated feminists.
Woggle Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 funny thing, I've told my female friend something like that, & she was offended, she said she's not a feminist & she didn't mean it that way. I didn't know there were women that hated feminists. They hate feminists when it is convenient. In another situation you might have gotten a lecture about double standards and how women have a right to be sexual.
Author KOH Posted June 30, 2011 Author Posted June 30, 2011 They hate feminists when it is convenient. In another situation you might have gotten a lecture about double standards and how women have a right to be sexual. good point, but I don't think she's one of those women, she hates women with a passion even though she's girly & not tomboyish, most women are sluts to her.
Author KOH Posted July 1, 2011 Author Posted July 1, 2011 I'll bump this thread. I'm looking for more opinions.
carhill Posted July 1, 2011 Posted July 1, 2011 certain information like how many partners I've had in the past...etc. as for the second question, the last LTR I've had was when I was a teenager, I've actually had three GFs, & yes I admit I mislead them back then & promised marriage...etc, but that's in the past & I was a silly teenager, but now, I never promise LTRs, & its not my fault if a woman assumed that I'm looking for one. I'm still interested in how, for yourself, specifically how you feel, you describe the difference between sex and consistent companionship (as described by emotional intimacy, time and activities spent together, etc, over time) from a LTR.... When you were a 'silly teenager' you were promising women marriage and now, as an older man (still no clue as to your age) you're not promising them anything, but you will have sex with them and evidently have some sort of interaction with them outside of sex, as of yet nebulous. I'm trying to get a clearer picture. Clarity is an important aspect of understanding. How long have you known this 'female friend' and to what extent do you discuss your intimate life with her? I'm interested in her foundation for her opinions. I put a lot of stock in the input of close friends (don't know if she is one) so understanding her perspective better would be helpful.
Author KOH Posted July 1, 2011 Author Posted July 1, 2011 I'm still interested in how, for yourself, specifically how you feel, you describe the difference between sex and consistent companionship (as described by emotional intimacy, time and activities spent together, etc, over time) from a LTR.... When you were a 'silly teenager' you were promising women marriage and now, as an older man (still no clue as to your age) you're not promising them anything, but you will have sex with them and evidently have some sort of interaction with them outside of sex, as of yet nebulous. I'm trying to get a clearer picture. Clarity is an important aspect of understanding. How long have you known this 'female friend' and to what extent do you discuss your intimate life with her? I'm interested in her foundation for her opinions. I put a lot of stock in the input of close friends (don't know if she is one) so understanding her perspective better would be helpful. I'm almost 22, when I say companionship, I mean relationship without commitment, the length of the relationship varies depending on the woman & how compatible we are, I'd say everything you said is correct. as for the female friend, she's actually an ex, after the break up I didn't see her for a few months & then she called & wanted to be a friend, she pretty much knows everything about me (she's kind of nosy), though she doesn't hang out when I'm with my male friends, so I'd describe her as an other friend as we don't have any friends in common.
snug.bunny Posted July 1, 2011 Posted July 1, 2011 This issue is very easy to solve for you. Have sex, without companionship.
Author KOH Posted July 1, 2011 Author Posted July 1, 2011 This issue is very easy to solve for you. Have sex, without companionship. that would be easy, wouldn't it? except I'm not only looking for sex (I am looking for sex, but not just sex). & its not causing me drama or anything, so I'm not looking for a change of lifestyle. for the few that agree with what my friend is saying, I want to know exactly what I'm doing wrong, why do you think what I'm doing is wrong? who decided that the dafault kind of relationship is the LTR? couples usually decide going exclusive at some point, so its not my fault that a woman assumed we're in an exclusive LTR.
motive2002 Posted July 1, 2011 Posted July 1, 2011 Despite how empowered women are, and the whole women's lib thing, girls have been programmed from the time they are very little, from Disney movies and junk to want that "happily ever after". Any man who doesn't expect to see that coming more often than not is completely delusional. You simply cannot rationalize that type of behavior by claiming ignorance. "She never said she wanted a relationship" is about as valid as "She told me she was 18". Ignorance is never a worthwhile defense. OP is just a shiester.
Author KOH Posted July 1, 2011 Author Posted July 1, 2011 Despite how empowered women are, and the whole women's lib thing, girls have been programmed from the time they are very little, from Disney movies and junk to want that "happily ever after". Any man who doesn't expect to see that coming more often than not is completely delusional. You simply cannot rationalize that type of behavior by claiming ignorance. "She never said she wanted a relationship" is about as valid as "She told me she was 18". Ignorance is never a worthwhile defense. OP is just a shiester. I don't agree with this at all, flip the gender & see how silly your premise looks.
snug.bunny Posted July 1, 2011 Posted July 1, 2011 that would be easy, wouldn't it? except I'm not only looking for sex (I am looking for sex, but not just sex). & its not causing me drama or anything, so I'm not looking for a change of lifestyle. for the few that agree with what my friend is saying, I want to know exactly what I'm doing wrong, why do you think what I'm doing is wrong? who decided that the dafault kind of relationship is the LTR? couples usually decide going exclusive at some point, so its not my fault that a woman assumed we're in an exclusive LTR. No, it honestly isn't your fault if women "assume" you are dating each other exclusively. Why do you think, they assume that you are?
Author KOH Posted July 1, 2011 Author Posted July 1, 2011 No, it honestly isn't your fault if women "assume" you are dating each other exclusively. Why do you think, they assume that you are? it doesn't happen a lot really, maybe 2 out of 10, I was wondering why my friend says I'm playing them more than anything else, all I'm saying is if a woman is hurt by me for this reason, its not my fault.
snug.bunny Posted July 1, 2011 Posted July 1, 2011 it doesn't happen a lot really, maybe 2 out of 10, I was wondering why my friend says I'm playing them more than anything else, all I'm saying is if a woman is hurt by me for this reason, its not my fault. Oh. Well, that doesn't really provide much insight in response to the question.
mr.dream merchant Posted July 1, 2011 Posted July 1, 2011 Dog...just **** these piece of **** hoes and call it a day, you don't owe them anything. **** their minds.
fitgirl Posted July 1, 2011 Posted July 1, 2011 If you don't say to these women, "I'm not looking for a serious relationship" it IS your fault. And it's not nice. its not nice and hes playing with their emotions. yuck.
fitgirl Posted July 1, 2011 Posted July 1, 2011 Dog...just **** these piece of **** hoes and call it a day, you don't owe them anything. **** their minds. ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww you are disgusting mysogynist
Woggle Posted July 1, 2011 Posted July 1, 2011 I wouldn't put it as crude as that but the OP said that he doesn't promise them anything so he is honest. How exactly are these women victims if he is honest from the start?
Author KOH Posted July 2, 2011 Author Posted July 2, 2011 I wouldn't put it as crude as that but the OP said that he doesn't promise them anything so he is honest. How exactly are these women victims if he is honest from the start? & that's my point, a woman being a victim in this case means I had to break a promise, if I haven't made such promises, then there is no victim here.
ForeverAwkward Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 (edited) OP, I just read your other thread, where you were trying to date your ex's cousin, and it doesn't sound like you're taking these girl's feelings into consideration at all. Even though you're not specifically saying you're not looking for a serious relationship, if you're actions speak it (such as saying, "I love you"), then yes, I'd say you're leading these girls on. If this is a reoccurring thing, you are the common denominator, so this is partially your fault. If you don't want to hurt anybody, then just be honest. Why are you withholding that information anyway? What are you worried is going to happen if you tell a girl you're not looking for anything serious? Edited July 2, 2011 by ForeverAwkward typo
Author KOH Posted July 2, 2011 Author Posted July 2, 2011 (edited) OP, I just read your other thread, where you were trying to date your ex's cousin, and it doesn't sound like you're taking these girl's feelings into consideration at all. Even though you're not specifically saying you're not looking for a serious relationship, if you're actions speak it (such as saying, "I love you"), then yes, I'd say you're leading these girls on. If this is a reoccurring thing, you are the common denominator, so this is partially your fault. If you don't want to hurt anybody, then just be honest. Why are you withholding that information anyway? What are you worried is going to happen if you tell a girl you're not looking for anything serious? telling a woman "I love you" doesn't = "I want us to be in an exclusive LTR", & I do not lie when I say it, so its not like I tell them that just for sex & about the ex's cousin, I don't see a problem with it, I've dated that ex for one month, she doesn't have control over my life. & about withholding information, I think you misunderstood what information I keep to myself, if a girl would ask me where the relationship is going, I'd be honest with her & tell her I'm not looking for anything serious, the information I'm talking about is how many GFs I've had...etc, so its about the past, I don't have to tell every woman I date how many women I've been with, so I either say a small figure or don't answer/avoid the question, this happens a lot even in serious relationships & I don't see anything wrong with that. Edited July 2, 2011 by KOH
Stung Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 To the vast majority of English-speaking women, "I love you" does not translate exactly to "I like hanging out with you for right now and banging you is cool but I'mma bang your cousin next week, too, after I ask my emotionally confused friend to pretend to be my girlfriend so I can dump you like we're fourteen years old and trapped in a bad sitcom." Maybe you need to take some ESL courses to clear these kinds of things up, and then you won't find yourself accidentally misleading everybody anymore.
ForeverAwkward Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 telling a woman "I love you" doesn't = "I want us to be in an exclusive LTR", & I do not lie when I say it, so its not like I tell them that just for sex I think Stung gave a good response to that. & about the ex's cousin, I don't see a problem with it, I've dated that ex for one month, she doesn't have control over my life. No, she doesn't have control over your life, but just as a way of showing respect for her as a human being with actual emotions and feelings, you shouldn't hurt her any further by going after her cousin. Her cousin isn't the last remaining option for you, there are plenty of other girls out there. Honestly, how were you expecting her to react??? & about withholding information, I think you misunderstood what information I keep to myself, if a girl would ask me where the relationship is going, I'd be honest with her & tell her I'm not looking for anything serious, the information I'm talking about is how many GFs I've had...etc, so its about the past, I don't have to tell every woman I date how many women I've been with, so I either say a small figure or don't answer/avoid the question, this happens a lot even in serious relationships & I don't see anything wrong with that. But why are you not upfront about this from the beginning? If you're so worried about accidentally leading girls on, then be upfront from the start, and tell them you're not looking for anything serious.
Author KOH Posted July 2, 2011 Author Posted July 2, 2011 To the vast majority of English-speaking women, "I love you" does not translate exactly to "I like hanging out with you for right now and banging you is cool but I'mma bang your cousin next week, too, after I ask my emotionally confused friend to pretend to be my girlfriend so I can dump you like we're fourteen years old and trapped in a bad sitcom." Maybe you need to take some ESL courses to clear these kinds of things up, and then you won't find yourself accidentally misleading everybody anymore. "I love you" just means "I love you", there's no need to exaggerate anything, it almost never caused me problems anyway. My OP isn't a riddle where every line has to mean something. here's a scenario: I ask "B" out, we go on a couple of dates, have sex, do fun things, that's it...so she sees someone else all over me somewhere, next thing you know she's making a scene...long story short, she thought we were exclusive even though we haven't even talked about it. so how did I mislead her here? now that didn't really happen, I'm just painting a picture.
Author KOH Posted July 2, 2011 Author Posted July 2, 2011 But why are you not upfront about this from the beginning? If you're so worried about accidentally leading girls on, then be upfront from the start, and tell them you're not looking for anything serious. "I saw your sparkling eyes across the room...btw I'm not looking for a serious relationship". it doesn't work that way. EDIT: ignore the cheesy line, I was just making a point.
ForeverAwkward Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 (edited) "I saw your sparkling eyes across the room...btw I'm not looking for a serious relationship". it doesn't work that way. EDIT: ignore the cheesy line, I was just making a point. How about you simply ask a girl on a date (and most girls know that one or two dates does not make an exclusive relationship), and once things are leading towards sex, THEN you be upfront. You'll save her the trouble of becoming emotionally attached after sleeping together if you both know if you're on the same page. Edited July 2, 2011 by ForeverAwkward
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