John Michael Kane Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 So long as there is no lying and no deceit, the BS is free to to hook up with whomever they please. Didn't know you were such a strong advocate of "revenge cheating." Okay. You do that. Let us know what you find out. Until then you got nothin but a bunch of hot air. More like hot facts. I don't know your story. Are you a cheater? Does it make you feel better about cheating on your betrayed spouse by believing she probably cheats on you too? I just don't get why you're so convinced that Shania must of cheated on her husband first, when there hasn't ever been any evidence of this? Obviously from my profile image and from my posts you can see that I'm quite the opposite of a cheater.
Author alexandria35 Posted June 30, 2011 Author Posted June 30, 2011 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/13/shania-twain-divorce_n_861869.html "After confronting Marie-Ann about the affair, and eventually separating from Lange in May 2008, Twain began "a very slow grieving process," during which she and Frederic Thiebaud leaned on each other." ^ Uh-oh, emotional affair. So they got cheated on, then they have an affair of their own, then marry each other a couple months after they divorced their former spouses. Now after she "got her man," she decides to add a few more bucks to her enormous bank account by writing a book about it. Sounds like some weird swinging/cuckolding story mixed with your usual cliched crap. I guess a lot of people love leftovers. NEXT! Yes! Her and Frederic leaned on each other AFTER her and the mutt seperated. What exactly is wrong with that? Her husband left her and continued his relationship with the OW. As far as I'm concerned that left Shania free. What is your problem? Is that she got together with the other betrayed spouse? Would it be more to your liking if her boyfriend was someone else? She didn't want the seperation. She begged her husband to give their marriage a chance. She begged the OW to stay away and let them work on their marriage. Neither the husband or the OW were the least bit moved by Shania's pain or pleas. They both told her she just needed to get over it already. So she did.
GorillaTheater Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 Personally, the fact that she hooked up with the OW's ex is the best part of the story. You typically have this "I don't want him but I don't want anyone else to have him either" dynamic in these situations anyways, but add to that her ex hooks up with the other BS? A much more famous, far richer, and presumably hotter BS at that? Make me feel warm inside.
donnamaybe Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 meh ... I think it's a little suspicious that she hooked up with the other woman's husband, and at one point wondered if the whole affair wasn't some kind of red herring to hide a relationship with him while they were each married ... Oh, wow.
John Michael Kane Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 Yes! Her and Frederic leaned on each other AFTER her and the mutt seperated. What exactly is wrong with that? Her husband left her and continued his relationship with the OW. As far as I'm concerned that left Shania free. What is your problem? Is that she got together with the other betrayed spouse? Would it be more to your liking if her boyfriend was someone else? She didn't want the seperation. She begged her husband to give their marriage a chance. She begged the OW to stay away and let them work on their marriage. Neither the husband or the OW were the least bit moved by Shania's pain or pleas. They both told her she just needed to get over it already. So she did. Still cheating if you're still married.:laugh:
quankanne Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 yep, Donna ... my thoughts exactly. This isn't a post being hateful toward an obviously well-loved singer, just pointing out the irony that she ended up with the husband of the woman who ruined her marriage ... a man she started a relationship with while still legally married to someone else. it's a case of the pot calling the kettle black, IMO
PhoenixRise Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 Seems there is the typical blame being placed on the BS...in this case, Shania. I am no particular fan of hers and pretty much hate country music but come on, did she really deserve this? As for her relationship with the other BS, it is not completely unheard of for two BS (whose respective spouses were in an affair with each other) to bond as they work through the aftermath. After all, aren't BS here on LS often encouraged to contact the other BS in their situation to compare notes and possibly help each other put a stop to the affair? What did Shania do that was different? Some infidelity support forum this is! Agreed There is no evidence, there is not even an accusation from the parties involved, that Shania was having an affair with the OW's husband during the marriage. One would think that if this speculation had any validity, either Shania's ex husband or the OW would be saying so publicly since Shania has written a book detailing all THEIR dirty laundry. Since she has written a book where she talks about their affair, if they had a shred of a hope of hint of something that would make her look NOT like their victim and that would paint her in an equally bad light, they (the ex husband & OW) would be saying so publicly. It wouldn't be a secret that needed to be uncovered by conspiracy theorist on an anonymous message board.
John Michael Kane Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 Agreed There is no evidence, there is not even an accusation from the parties involved, that Shania was having an affair with the OW's husband during the marriage. One would think that if this speculation had any validity, either Shania's ex husband or the OW would be saying so publicly since Shania has written a book detailing all THEIR dirty laundry. Since she has written a book where she talks about their affair, if they had a shred of a hope of hint of something that would make her look NOT like their victim and that would paint her in an equally bad light, they (the ex husband & OW) would be saying so publicly. It wouldn't be a secret that needed to be uncovered by conspiracy theorist on an anonymous message board. Right so because she wrote some book to keep the change flowing, EVERYTHING in the book is the be all and end all of this situation. Stans these days.
PhoenixRise Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 I also wondered about this. She strikes me as someone that thinks VERY highly of herself. I am thinking there was cheating going on both sides. Heaven forbid a woman should think well of herself. I am not a fan of Shania or of country music in general and I haven't read her book. But I did see Shania on a talk show promoting her book and she talked about she she begged and pleaded with the OW to just let her have her husband. She wrote the OW letters begging for mercy and begging for her life (marriage) back. She then talked about how she knew how pathetic and desperate she sounded. She didn't strike me as a woman who had an overblown sense of herself. She struck me as a woman who had been completely blindsided by someone who she considered a good friend. Someone she confided in about her marriage and life and the man she was married to and loved dearly. There is no evidence that she cheated.
Author alexandria35 Posted June 30, 2011 Author Posted June 30, 2011 Still cheating if you're still married.:laugh: Okay then I guess this is where we differ. I would consider the marriage destroyed and done the moment my spouse left me for another.
PhoenixRise Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 Right so because she wrote some book to keep the change flowing, EVERYTHING in the book is the be all and end all of this situation. Stans these days. As usual you either missed the point or completely twisted the words in the post you are responding to. I said that because she wrote the book and detailed the affair, if the ex husband and OW had information that could make her look bad (like revealing that she was cheating too for example) they would make it public.
Snowflower Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 Agreed There is no evidence, there is not even an accusation from the parties involved, that Shania was having an affair with the OW's husband during the marriage. One would think that if this speculation had any validity, either Shania's ex husband or the OW would be saying so publicly since Shania has written a book detailing all THEIR dirty laundry. Since she has written a book where she talks about their affair, if they had a shred of a hope of hint of something that would make her look NOT like their victim and that would paint her in an equally bad light, they (the ex husband & OW) would be saying so publicly. It wouldn't be a secret that needed to be uncovered by conspiracy theorist on an anonymous message board. Good point. The story was very unflattering to the OW/WS. So if they had contrary evidence that would make Shania look bad it seems they would have disclosed it publicly. After all, there isn't certainly no love lost between Shania and her former friend. IMO, there was some sweet justice for the BW at the end in this case.
quankanne Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 PR, if they didn't care enough to stop their affair, my guess is that they didn't care ANYTHING about her or what was going on with her. You know, wrapped up in their own foggy little world. I would consider the marriage destroyed and done the moment my spouse left me for another. Emotionally, yes. Legally, no. You're married until that divorce decree says otherwise.
John Michael Kane Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 As usual you either missed the point or completely twisted the words in the post you are responding to. As usual you intentionally ignored the facts and only paid attention to the glamorization of the topic of discussion. I said that because she wrote the book and detailed the affair, if the ex husband and OW had information that could make her look bad (like revealing that she was cheating too for example) they would make it public. When people write books they compose it from their own perception of things, and leave out things that make their story look faulty.
donnamaybe Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 yep, Donna ... my thoughts exactly. This isn't a post being hateful toward an obviously well-loved singer, just pointing out the irony that she ended up with the husband of the woman who ruined her marriage ... a man she started a relationship with while still legally married to someone else. it's a case of the pot calling the kettle black, IMO You missed the point. There is NO way one can compare the two. She had been thrown away like garbage after being deceived over a length of time by the two people she should have been able to trust. She wasn't'hiding anything from anyone. The M was over. Mere formalities to be put on paper at that point. I am glad she found happiness. To speculate that there was cheating on her part is just . There is absolutely no proof of that, and if it were true at all, her ex would have said something about it to the media in an attempt to assuage his own guilt.
PhoenixRise Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 PR, if they didn't care enough to stop their affair, my guess is that they didn't care ANYTHING about her or what was going on with her. You know, wrapped up in their own foggy little world. I would consider the marriage destroyed and done the moment my spouse left me for another. Emotionally, yes. Legally, no. You're married until that divorce decree says otherwise. I see what you are saying. But this is not a woman going to the all the friends and family and employers or even putting up flyers in their neighborhood. This is a woman who is famous in her own right and is going on Oprah to promote a book that details their scumbag behavior. Seems like that would get their attention. As usual you intentionally ignored the facts and only paid attention to the glamorization of the topic of discussion. When people write books they compose it from their own perception of things, and leave out things that make their story look faulty. Which doesn't change the fact that if they knew something that would make her look as bad as her book makes them look ( like if she was cheating too for example).... they would make it public.
John Michael Kane Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 Which doesn't change the fact that if they knew something that would make her look as bad as her book makes them look ( like if she was cheating too for example).... they would make it public. Cheaters wrapped up in their own little world do not care what is going on outside of it.
PhoenixRise Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 Cheaters wrapped up in their own little world do not care what is going on outside of it. Riiiiight They wouldn't care that a very famous woman wrote a book and went on the Oprah Winfrey show to promote it that details the affair they had and makes them look like complete scum because the OW involved is/was Shania's good friend who she confided in regarding the marriage. They wouldn't care that she read an excerpt from the book that was a copy of a letter she sent to the OW where she begged and pleaded for the OW to leave them alone and to please just give Shania her husband and her life back and please have mercy on her for the sake of the child that Shania and her husband share. They wouldn't care that all of that was exposed on national television and immortalized in a book. They wouldn't care that they looked like the worst kind of scum and they wouldn't try to level the playing field by exposing an affair that Shania had to make themselves look not quite so scum-like Whatever..
GorillaTheater Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 Whatever.. You'd think Twain kicked Kane's dog or dented his '70 Barracuda or something.
John Michael Kane Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 Riiiiight They wouldn't care that a very famous woman wrote a book and went on the Oprah Winfrey show to promote it that details the affair they had and makes them look like complete scum because the OW involved is/was Shania's good friend who she confided in regarding the marriage. They wouldn't care that she read an excerpt from the book that was a copy of a letter she sent to the OW where she begged and pleaded for the OW to leave them alone and to please just give Shania her husband and her life back and please have mercy on her for the sake of the child that Shania and her husband share. They wouldn't care that all of that was exposed on national television and immortalized in a book. They wouldn't care that they looked like the worst kind of scum and they wouldn't try to level the playing field by exposing and affair that Shania had to make themselves look not quite so scum-like They already knew the consequences. They knew it was going to go out in the open and they didn't care. The selfishness is the same but some cheaters go about it different ways. Whatever.. Fine by me. Anyone in their right mind who divorced their cheating spouse would want nothing to do with anything or anyone who associated with their ex-WS. Separation is not to be used as a medium to get your genitals wet, it's supposed to be used for healing yourself and/or seeing if your marriage can still be salvaged. They got cheated on so the both of them decided to hook up while still married.
PhoenixRise Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 You'd think Twain kicked Kane's dog or dented his '70 Barracuda or something. :laugh:
Author alexandria35 Posted June 30, 2011 Author Posted June 30, 2011 Cheaters wrapped up in their own little world do not care what is going on outside of it. Meh!..you should spend some more time on the OW/OM boards. If you did you would soon see that cheaters and their affair partners absolutely hate when their behavior is judged or critisized and they become downright livid when the the BS actually as the audacity to take the affair public and expose them.
John Michael Kane Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 Meh!..you should spend some more time on the OW/OM boards. If you did you would soon see that cheaters and their affair partners absolutely hate when their behavior is judged or critisized and they become downright livid when the the BS actually as the audacity to take the affair public and expose them. I spend enough time reading those pathetic stories but as I said before, the selfishness is the same but some cheaters go about it different ways. Some just don't give a crap whether their dirty laundry is exposed.
donnamaybe Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 You'd think Twain kicked Kane's dog or dented his '70 Barracuda or something. He can't stand to see a woman rise from the ashes and become stronger. Goes against all his preconceived notions.
Memphis Raines Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 Seems there is the typical blame being placed on the BS...in this case, Shania. I am no particular fan of hers and pretty much hate country music but come on, did she really deserve this? nope, and as for me I never said she did. I just had to wonder about her outlook on relationships based on the lyrics she has written. Some infidelity support forum this is! I didn't know Shania was on her looking for support? Which username is she?? i want to have her send me her autograph!!!
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