alexandria35 Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 Has anyone here read her book? I'm just about through it and I have to say I didn't find it to be a great book. I mean I guess it wasn't bad, I just found most of it kind of boring and I had a difficult time getting into it. However towards the end of the book she did speak quite candidly of her husbands affair and what she went through as a result. She was devastated!! And for her it was a serious double betrayal because she had considered the OW (her husband's personal secretary) a beloved close family friend. Shania and the OW were pregnant together, went to prenatal classed together, raised thier children together, spent holidays and such together. When news of Shania's husband's affair hit the mags a few years back I think a part of me subconciously thought 'oh well, she is so beautiful, rich and successful, she probably won't be too seriously affected by this'. I was wrong. Shania appears to have felt as deeply hurt and destroyed as any other betrayed spouse. The OW was a real piece of work too. As I said her and Shania had been close personal friends, well at least Shania considered her a friend, but obviously she was no friend. She was a coniving manipulative excuse for a human being. She encouraged Shania to open up to her about the problems she was having in her marriage so that she could later use these things against her. When Shania began to suspect that something was going on with her husband and the possibility of an affair crossed her mind, she went to the OW with her feelings and suspicions because she honestly never once considered that the OW would betray her. At one point she did ask the OW if she was keeping secrets for her husband and apparently the OW put on an oscar winning performance of acting hurt and upset that Shania would even suggest that she would do such a thing. She even squeezed out a few tears for show and Shania felt terrible afterwards and apologized to the OW! Well I'll stop retelling the book here as I imagine if you all wanted to know the whole story you would just go get the book...haha. Actually I think her book may be helpful to some betrayed spouses because it illustrates how it can happen to anyone. Many betrayed spouses often go through a long period of blaming themselves feeling like a lesser person. Shania experienced that very same thing. She admits that she played a part in the downfall of her marriage, but when her husband was becoming increasingly distant and unloving towards her, she went overboard trying to become a better wife to him.She bought tons of self help books and marriage books, trying to save her marriage. So sad because she had no idea what was going on behind her back.
John Michael Kane Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 Has anyone here read her book? I'm just about through it and I have to say I didn't find it to be a great book. I mean I guess it wasn't bad, I just found most of it kind of boring and I had a difficult time getting into it. However towards the end of the book she did speak quite candidly of her husbands affair and what she went through as a result. She was devastated!! And for her it was a serious double betrayal because she had considered the OW (her husband's personal secretary) a beloved close family friend. Shania and the OW were pregnant together, went to prenatal classed together, raised thier children together, spent holidays and such together. When news of Shania's husband's affair hit the mags a few years back I think a part of me subconciously thought 'oh well, she is so beautiful, rich and successful, she probably won't be too seriously affected by this'. I was wrong. Shania appears to have felt as deeply hurt and destroyed as any other betrayed spouse. The OW was a real piece of work too. As I said her and Shania had been close personal friends, well at least Shania considered her a friend, but obviously she was no friend. She was a coniving manipulative excuse for a human being. She encouraged Shania to open up to her about the problems she was having in her marriage so that she could later use these things against her. When Shania began to suspect that something was going on with her husband and the possibility of an affair crossed her mind, she went to the OW with her feelings and suspicions because she honestly never once considered that the OW would betray her. At one point she did ask the OW if she was keeping secrets for her husband and apparently the OW put on an oscar winning performance of acting hurt and upset that Shania would even suggest that she would do such a thing. She even squeezed out a few tears for show and Shania felt terrible afterwards and apologized to the OW! Well I'll stop retelling the book here as I imagine if you all wanted to know the whole story you would just go get the book...haha. Actually I think her book may be helpful to some betrayed spouses because it illustrates how it can happen to anyone. Many betrayed spouses often go through a long period of blaming themselves feeling like a lesser person. Shania experienced that very same thing. She admits that she played a part in the downfall of her marriage, but when her husband was becoming increasingly distant and unloving towards her, she went overboard trying to become a better wife to him.She bought tons of self help books and marriage books, trying to save her marriage. So sad because she had no idea what was going on behind her back. Hopefully she divorced the idiot?
Woggle Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 Hopefully she divorced the idiot? She did and she is now married to the OW's ex husband. Not a fan of her music but I respect her for going through this with class and dignity.
What_Next Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 I had no idea what happened to her. I was skimming the tube the other night and came across a show she was in and it mentioned what happened in her life. I thought to myself, no matter how rich or succesful you are infedility has a deep impact no matter what. I agree woggle, she deserves credit for taking the high road. Many of us don't handle it properly and make a bad situation worse. Perhaps it was because I've only seen her all dolled up, but in this show you could see the strain right on her face, she was wearing the impact of this terrible event.
Woggle Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 I hate to see this happening to a good woman. Do men like her husband even realize what they have?
John Michael Kane Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 I hate to see this happening to a good woman. Do men like her husband even realize what they have? They realize it, but just don't care.
Snowflower Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 I read a condensed version of Shania's story in a magazine. It was interesting and the way she described the immediate aftermath of her d-day was very familiar. The constant desire to sleep but you can't really sleep, being cold all the time, etc. Very poignant. It was interesting that she has since married the other BS. I hope they are happy since both of them have been the h*ll. The double-betrayal in her case was really difficult. In Shania's case, the OW is as much to blame if not more to blame than the WS, IMO.
Feelin Frisky Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 Oh yeah. I read Shania Twain's book. (And pygmies dunk from the foul line.)
Author alexandria35 Posted June 29, 2011 Author Posted June 29, 2011 I read a condensed version of Shania's story in a magazine. It was interesting and the way she described the immediate aftermath of her d-day was very familiar. The constant desire to sleep but you can't really sleep, being cold all the time, etc. Very poignant. It was interesting that she has since married the other BS. I hope they are happy since both of them have been the h*ll. The double-betrayal in her case was really difficult. In Shania's case, the OW is as much to blame if not more to blame than the WS, IMO. Oh I agree and I think Shania does too! She said she would have been much more understanding had the OW been a total stranger to her and someone new to her husband's life, but she feels like her particular OW behaved like a vulture, spending years circling her marriage, waiting for an opportune time, to dive in and take her spoils. Once the affair became known the OW became openly hostile and hateful to Shania, taking glee in her pain. It was disgusting. There was recently a thread on the OW/OM board where an OW recounted a story of being at the MM house one day (she is friends with the wife) when a discussion arose between the husband and wife. OW pretended to take a phonecall and left the room. At first I presumed this was to give husband and wife some privacy, but this wasn't the case at all. Instead she spied on them and eavesdropped. Okay I'm not even a BW but man this just skeeved me out! Pretending to be friends with the wife, spying on their personal moments and conversations. Talk about being a snake.
whichwayisup Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 When news of Shania's husband's affair hit the mags a few years back I think a part of me subconciously thought 'oh well, she is so beautiful, rich and successful, she probably won't be too seriously affected by this'. I was wrong. Shania appears to have felt as deeply hurt and destroyed as any other betrayed spouse. Can I ask why you would thought this? Why wouldn't she feel betrayed, hurt, devastated, have her life turned upside? She is no different than any other betrayed spouse.. Just because she's beautiful, rich and famous doesn't mean she isn't human. I haven't read her book, but I plan to. She's had a traumatic life losing her parents at young age and having to be mom and dad to her siblings.. I commend her strength and courage to get through some pretty awful things in life and come out the other side shining!
StoneCold Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 (edited) What I dont get is... If you know you are playing a part in the downfall of your marriage....how can you have all these expectations for your spouse? You're not meeting expectations yourself but somehow it still applies to the other person.... Your marriage is going down the sh*tter...you are well aware of this....and you are shocked when a bad situation becomes worse? Its like packing heat and walking into a gun fight and acting surprised because you got shot I drop the ball in my marriage (however that may be) and I am full aware of this.......I'm ready Edited June 30, 2011 by StoneCold
quankanne Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 meh ... I think it's a little suspicious that she hooked up with the other woman's husband, and at one point wondered if the whole affair wasn't some kind of red herring to hide a relationship with him while they were each married ...
Spark1111 Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 I read a condensed version of Shania's story in a magazine. It was interesting and the way she described the immediate aftermath of her d-day was very familiar. The constant desire to sleep but you can't really sleep, being cold all the time, etc. Very poignant. It was interesting that she has since married the other BS. I hope they are happy since both of them have been the h*ll. The double-betrayal in her case was really difficult. In Shania's case, the OW is as much to blame if not more to blame than the WS, IMO. And it also blows up the stereotype that beautiful people never get cheated on, and the AP must be some knock-out, when in reality she could be some plain jane. It also must be a fWS's worst nightmare, one never even considered during the affair, that one day you and the AP will be no more, but your xW and her xH....may just live happily ever after. Ha!
Memphis Raines Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 I feel bad for her. But back in the day, I thought any man would be nuts to date a woman that wrote lyrics to the song "Any Man of Mine". No matter how good she looked. And then there was "That Don't Impress Me Much". So I get this vision of a woman that thinks a man better walk the line, but she can do whatever she wants, and that men in general don't impress her.
Memphis Raines Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 meh ... I think it's a little suspicious that she hooked up with the other woman's husband I also wondered about this. She strikes me as someone that thinks VERY highly of herself. I am thinking there was cheating going on both sides.
John Michael Kane Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 meh ... I think it's a little suspicious that she hooked up with the other woman's husband, and at one point wondered if the whole affair wasn't some kind of red herring to hide a relationship with him while they were each married ... Oh wow. Guess I didn't read her whole story. But then again I don't know this person. But yea that is suspicious. Guess the four of them cheated on each other, with each other. They should've just had one big foursome.
Author alexandria35 Posted June 30, 2011 Author Posted June 30, 2011 Oh wow. Guess I didn't read her whole story. But then again I don't know this person. But yea that is suspicious. Guess the four of them cheated on each other, with each other. They should've just had one big foursome. Kind of nasty to accuse someone of cheating on their spouse when you have nothing to back that up. Obviously you didn't read her story because if you did you would know that her relationship with her current husband, (the other betrayed spouse), developed slowly. They didn't just fall into the sack together the moment they discovered they had been cheated on. When she first discovered her husbands affair, she went to Canada to be with her family and get their support. It was several months after she returned to Sweden before her friendship with this man turned romantic in nature. She also says that during her marriage she considered the OW her close personal friend but she wasn't particularly close to the OW's husband and didn't know him all that well. Most of the time when the couples were together the women would spend time together bonding and the men would hang out together and do their thing. Shania felt that the OW's husband was more a friend to her by extentsion of his friendship with her husband. He and Shania didn't share a close friendship until after she was seperated. Now I suppose anything is possible. I suppose Shania could just be a big fat liar and her book nothing but a big fat book of lies, but until somebody has some proof or her and her current husband being deceitful little cheaters, I choose to believe her side. If you're going to throw these nasty accusations then pony up something to back it up. Otherwise it's just evil slander. For the record I'm not a Shania Twain fan and I can't stand her music, I just don't believe in attacking another persons character for the fun of it.
Woggle Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 I am not a fan of her music either but her songs don't mean anything. Beyonce has a bunch of stupid girl power type of songs and she is a happily married woman.
Snowflower Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 Seems there is the typical blame being placed on the BS...in this case, Shania. I am no particular fan of hers and pretty much hate country music but come on, did she really deserve this? As for her relationship with the other BS, it is not completely unheard of for two BS (whose respective spouses were in an affair with each other) to bond as they work through the aftermath. After all, aren't BS here on LS often encouraged to contact the other BS in their situation to compare notes and possibly help each other put a stop to the affair? What did Shania do that was different? Some infidelity support forum this is!
Snowflower Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 I am not a fan of her music either but her songs don't mean anything. Beyonce has a bunch of stupid girl power type of songs and she is a happily married woman. Yes^^^^ Good point!
John Michael Kane Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 Kind of nasty to accuse someone of cheating on their spouse when you have nothing to back that up. Obviously you didn't read her story because if you did you would know that her relationship with her current husband, (the other betrayed spouse), developed slowly. They didn't just fall into the sack together the moment they discovered they had been cheated on. When she first discovered her husbands affair, she went to Canada to be with her family and get their support. It was several months after she returned to Sweden before her friendship with this man turned romantic in nature. She also says that during her marriage she considered the OW her close personal friend but she wasn't particularly close to the OW's husband and didn't know him all that well. Most of the time when the couples were together the women would spend time together bonding and the men would hang out together and do their thing. Shania felt that the OW's husband was more a friend to her by extentsion of his friendship with her husband. He and Shania didn't share a close friendship until after she was seperated. Now I suppose anything is possible. I suppose Shania could just be a big fat liar and her book nothing but a big fat book of lies, but until somebody has some proof or her and her current husband being deceitful little cheaters, I choose to believe her side. If you're going to throw these nasty accusations then pony up something to back it up. Otherwise it's just evil slander. For the record I'm not a Shania Twain fan and I can't stand her music, I just don't believe in attacking another persons character for the fun of it. After writing a story long reply to my comment and then stating what's in bold, it's obvious you are Shania Twain's "stan." LikeQuanka said, it all could've been a cover-up.;)
John Michael Kane Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 As for her relationship with the other BS, it is not completely unheard of for two BS (whose respective spouses were in an affair with each other) to bond as they work through the aftermath. So it's okay for two BSs to hook up and cry and hold each other right? Or it's okay for them to talk extensively about how each other's spouses screwed them over right? That's an emotional affair. The only things they need to be talking about are the comparable notes about the affair. After all, aren't BS here on LS often encouraged to contact the other BS in their situation to compare notes and possibly help each other put a stop to the affair?And that's fine. But that's kind of suspicious that they "hooked up" not long after she divorced her ex-husband. What did Shania do that was different?Most likely she fooled around with this guy when she was still married to her ex. I don't know. I'll look further into this. Some infidelity support forum this is!I totally agree. The amount of "reconciliation" and biased "counseling" advice, along with the high evidence of denial in a lot of these "betrayed spouses" is ridiculous.
John Michael Kane Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/13/shania-twain-divorce_n_861869.html "After confronting Marie-Ann about the affair, and eventually separating from Lange in May 2008, Twain began "a very slow grieving process," during which she and Frederic Thiebaud leaned on each other." ^ Uh-oh, emotional affair. So they got cheated on, then they have an affair of their own, then marry each other a couple months after they divorced their former spouses. Now after she "got her man," she decides to add a few more bucks to her enormous bank account by writing a book about it. Sounds like some weird swinging/cuckolding story mixed with your usual cliched crap. I guess a lot of people love leftovers. NEXT!
Author alexandria35 Posted June 30, 2011 Author Posted June 30, 2011 So it's okay for two BSs to hook up and cry and hold each other right? Or it's okay for them to talk extensively about how each other's spouses screwed them over right? That's an emotional affair. The only things they need to be talking about are the comparable notes about the affair. So long as there is no lying and no deceit, the BS is free to to hook up with whomever they please. Most likely she fooled around with this guy when she was still married to her ex. I don't know. I'll look further into this. Okay. You do that. Let us know what you find out. Until then you got nothin but a bunch of hot air. I don't know your story. Are you a cheater? Does it make you feel better about cheating on your betrayed spouse by believing she probably cheats on you too? I just don't get why you're so convinced that Shania must of cheated on her husband first, when there hasn't ever been any evidence of this?
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