quietGuy13 Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 I feel like Women will always think i'm a loser. And the only thing i can WHEN I DO, is get is little jobs here and there and temp jobs. I've never had a career. I'm just you could say "a job hopper". Not by choice but because those temp jobs that promised to hired me, just changed their minds. I have had 2 places where i was actually just about to be hired but they gave up And in threads here, Women think men are pretty loserish if they don't have a great job. I'm trying to find a job but It's won't be anything great so I feel like women will still not like me.
PK Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 Not at all, you are still very young. Make yourself better, get that job you wanted and work hard.
thatone Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 get a bunch of tattoos, a raggedy assed motorcycle, and a bowflex. that's the alternative to a decent job.
PK Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 Not at all, you are still very young. Make yourself better, get that job you wanted and work hard. A man is not defined soley on his profession, I am sure you have strengths that are attractive, use those and build upon them. Make your weaknesses better. Women are attracted to all different types of things, don't let this hold you back.
Yamaha Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 You sound like your the one not happy with your lack of a job! If you want fulfillment that comes from you not from dating.
Queen Zenobia Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 I feel like Women will always think i'm a loser. And the only thing i can WHEN I DO, is get is little jobs here and there and temp jobs. I've never had a career. I'm just you could say "a job hopper". Not by choice but because those temp jobs that promised to hired me, just changed their minds. I have had 2 places where i was actually just about to be hired but they gave up And in threads here, Women think men are pretty loserish if they don't have a great job. I'm trying to find a job but It's won't be anything great so I feel like women will still not like me. Develop a skill that is in high demand (or refine an existing skill that you already have). Then, either start your own business or work for someone else. You're young, and as long as you don't live in a third world country you have every chance to succeed.
make me believe Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 Not at all, you are still very young. Make yourself better, get that job you wanted and work hard. A man is not defined soley on his profession, I am sure you have strengths that are attractive, use those and build upon them. Make your weaknesses better. Women are attracted to all different types of things, don't let this hold you back. This is good advice! I agree. But also, you can develop some kind of technical skill fairly quickly in order to get a 'real' job just to have a steady income & build experience while you figure out what else you want to do ~ or who knows, the job you get may be what you DO want to do! I'm talking about things like a/c techs, x-ray techs, that kind of thing where you go to school for 9 months or so and then you're set. You may want to look into something like that so that you can stop job hopping & relying on temp jobs.
Star Gazer Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 As a 33 year old woman, I would not date a 30 year old man who's a job hopper, who's had no focus on one job or aspiration to develop a career. Never.
Sweetheartt Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 I feel like Women will always think i'm a loser. And the only thing i can WHEN I DO, is get is little jobs here and there and temp jobs. I've never had a career. I'm just you could say "a job hopper". Not by choice but because those temp jobs that promised to hired me, just changed their minds. I have had 2 places where i was actually just about to be hired but they gave up And in threads here, Women think men are pretty loserish if they don't have a great job. I'm trying to find a job but It's won't be anything great so I feel like women will still not like me. Why dont have any ambitions? Whats wrong with u? Im 19 and I got lots of ambition. I wanna be a physical therapist. Its your attitude thats not attractive buddy.
alexlakeman Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 Because women look at someone with your age, no career, nor higher education as a looser.. Why would they want to date you? What do you bring to the table? You could have had 3 undergrad degrees or a medical degree by now... Women prefer a provider.... You could always stick to the cashiers, waitresses, etc... Why didn't you go to college again? As for the jobs not keeping you, that's your fault not their's... Not every job could possibly not be hiring perm that you've worked at.. Look at yourself and you might find the answer, good luck
Shaun-Dro Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 Because women look at someone with your age, no career, nor higher education as a looser.. Why would they want to date you? What do you bring to the table? You could have had 3 undergrad degrees or a medical degree by now... Women prefer a provider.... You could always stick to the cashiers, waitresses, etc... Why didn't you go to college again? As for the jobs not keeping you, that's your fault not their's... Not every job could possibly not be hiring perm that you've worked at.. Look at yourself and you might find the answer, good luck I'm 32 and just about finished school, on my way to start my intern, so all is not lost for the OP, but he has to get going before it's too late! The only women that judge a man based on his profession and not on his quality of character are worthless golddiggers, looking for someone to take care of their butts. Stay away from them. Getting with a waitress or even a cashier is quite okay. No pressure or nonsense aggravation about when you're going to buy them this or that. Hell, I'm dating one now.
Eeyore79 Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 You could always stick to the cashiers, waitresses, etc... Everyone wants someone who brings as much to the table as they do. Women tend to want a man who can support a family in the future, so if she wants a family, why would she date him if he has no prospects for having one? Most women will look for a guy whose career is around the same level as their own - a professional college educated woman will look for a similar man, and so on. Even the cashiers and waitresses want a guy with a job. Perhaps they'll settle for a lower level of job, like a manual laborer or a factory worker, but they still want a guy who's employed. The women who might be willing to date an unemployed guy are those who are unemployed themselves - maybe they have a few kids and are living on welfare - i.e. the women who aren't so desirable are usually willing to date an equivalent man. The exception is if you have a career and qualifications, and just so happen to be out of work in this tough economy - you have career prospects if you can find a job, so you can probably date a decent woman who's prepared to wait until that job comes along for you. I don't think your dating life is over if you haven't had a career in your 30s, but at the very least you need to get a job of some sort before aiming to date the women who are employed at a similar level.
grkBoy Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 quietGuy13, I think it depends on your education and situation. If you have skills and education, but the market is bad, then just keep on trying to find that solid FT employment. Maybe even back-burner dating for a while and focus on you. NOW...if you have no skills, little education, and look like you'll end up working PT in retail at the age of 30, then that would be a big red flag for many women. Face it, if you hit 30 and can't hold a normal job, women will see you as an overgrown teenager. They don't want another kid in their lives.
alexlakeman Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 The only women that judge a man based on his profession and not on his quality of character are worthless golddiggers, looking for someone to take care of their butts. Stay away from them. Getting with a waitress or even a cashier is quite okay. Not if the woman ALSO has a career.. You date a cashier and wtf are you going to talk about each day? Will she be able to afford to travel as much as you do? What about her? Obviously she has no ambitition or is she the gold digger waiting for the guy to come along earning the big bucks? It's all relative.. I wish there were more women with undergrad/ grad/phd's out there.. seems all you see on dating sites is "some college" aka "I took 2 classes after high school, failed miserably, and decided to take a clerical job for the rest of my life"..
TheLawmaker Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 I don't have a career, but that's because of social anxiety. And recently, I've been getting more adaptable to social situations...problem is, nobody is hiring! I don't think all is lost, but I'm in the same situation as the OP, so I can't really talk.
irc333 Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 But careers are taking a nose dive these days. Considering the state of the economy. I've known people with great supervisory positions to be terminated/laid off only to have to have sold their homes and extra cars to make ends meet, and still considered UNDER-employed. (working part-time, contract labor, etc) I know 2 mid 50's couples that are working the kind of jobs that teenagers would be working. They've been job hopping, too to a certain extent. These days, jobs are becoming less career oriented and more temporary As a 33 year old woman, I would not date a 30 year old man who's a job hopper, who's had no focus on one job or aspiration to develop a career. Never.
Queen Zenobia Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 But careers are taking a nose dive these days. Considering the state of the economy. I've known people with great supervisory positions to be terminated/laid off only to have to have sold their homes and extra cars to make ends meet, and still considered UNDER-employed. (working part-time, contract labor, etc) I know 2 mid 50's couples that are working the kind of jobs that teenagers would be working. They've been job hopping, too to a certain extent. These days, jobs are becoming less career oriented and more temporary Some careers are taking a nosedive, but not all. The economy's changing there's no doubt about that, but it's not going to hell in a handbasket...not yet anyway.
irc333 Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 Some careers are taking a nosedive, but not all. Not sure what your point is, I'm sure that not "all" careers are taking a nose dive, but that's beside the point.
Queen Zenobia Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 Not sure what your point is, I'm sure that not "all" careers are taking a nose dive, but that's beside the point. The point is that it is still possible to get a career even in this bad economy. If you have or develop a skill that is in high demand or if you can "build a better mousetrap" you can still have a career.
grkBoy Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 The point still stands though that MOST women do not want a guy they have to "take care of". Some women want a guy who can easily take care of her, but most simply want the guy who is not struggling to work and make a living while she's got a career and is "bringing home the bacon". You guys can try to dance around this all you want, but it's the harsh reality of life. Deal with it. The ONLY time I've seen an exception was when A FEW successful women would take in a "boy toy". Some uber-hot guy who has nothing more to himself than looks and sexual skill. Even then she wouldn't treat it as "serious".
samspade Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 I feel like Women will always think i'm a loser. And the only thing i can WHEN I DO, is get is little jobs here and there and temp jobs. I've never had a career. I'm just you could say "a job hopper". Not by choice but because those temp jobs that promised to hired me, just changed their minds. I have had 2 places where i was actually just about to be hired but they gave up And in threads here, Women think men are pretty loserish if they don't have a great job. I'm trying to find a job but It's won't be anything great so I feel like women will still not like me. By your definition, a lot of "losers" get laid and/or have girlfriends. Your problem is your mindset. You don't need to work in finance to land a good woman. But you do need to have ambition, confidence, and game. Good news - those things are all free!
irc333 Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 The point is that it is still possible to get a career even in this bad economy. If you have or develop a skill that is in high demand or if you can "build a better mousetrap" you can still have a career. Sure, anyone can just take part in any ol' career, but if it's not in their field, that's where it can be problematic.
allina Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 By your definition, a lot of "losers" get laid and/or have girlfriends. Your problem is your mindset. You don't need to work in finance to land a good woman. But you do need to have ambition, confidence, and game. Good news - those things are all free! Yes, but the OP is someone who has never had a career and doesn't seem to be getting one any time soon. The temp jobs he has worked end up not wanting him, and sadly, instead of doing something to better himself the OP is full of excuses Sorry but most women don't want that, it's not masculine or attractive.
irc333 Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 The reality of the situation is this, no one, and I mean hardly anyone is actually staying with the same company for 20 or 30 years, and then retiring with a nice pension. That is indeed a rarity these days. Yes, but the OP is someone who has never had a career and doesn't seem to be getting one any time soon. The temp jobs he has worked end up not wanting him, and sadly, instead of doing something to better himself the OP is full of excuses Sorry but most women don't want that, it's not masculine or attractive.
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