Mme. Chaucer Posted June 21, 2011 Posted June 21, 2011 Woggle, I think you have a slight, though decidedly unhealthy bent towards obsessions. There are rapists. Women get raped by men. Lots. I hear/ read about them. I become upset. Perhaps, I have even been a victim of rape. Does this mean that I should embrace man-hating women because I "need to ally myself with somebody who will stick up for me even if they are man haters"? To somehow "protect" me from the woman-hating violent act of rape by a man? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP IT! There are other people who frequently dive right into all of this crap whom I just dismiss as basically ignorant racist / sexist / ignorant bigots. I do NOT feel that you are one of these people. You are doing yourself a tremendous injustice by indulging in thoughts and speech that align you with such people. It is of ZERO positive use to you. Forget about "gender wars," I beg of you, Woggle. YOU ARE BEING A PART OF THE PROBLEM. Do you dislike this problem? Then, STOP BEING A PART OF IT. Spend your energy on the positive side. Take good care of yourself, love your wife and your friends (even if some of them are female), accept or reject people on their own merits, and accept the FACT that social change brings all kinds of trouble with it. Also, that messed up folks can always find a portion of some dogma to cling to and to skew to "justify" their own warped thinking. Evidently your mom and your ex used Feminism for this. Political entities have used religion. Some men are using Feminism for this as well, only in a different manner - often, and well demonstrated on this very thread.
Author Woggle Posted June 21, 2011 Author Posted June 21, 2011 You are probably right but that article really got me worked up and combine that with hearing women diss father's day and I am in a real foul mood.
xxoo Posted June 21, 2011 Posted June 21, 2011 You are probably right but that article really got me worked up and combine that with hearing women diss father's day and I am in a real foul mood. We made a big fuss over daddy here!
Mme. Chaucer Posted June 21, 2011 Posted June 21, 2011 I made a big fuss over my own Daddy - and he has been dead for a few years, as well as being a pretty flawed guy here on Earth. Also, I made a fuss over my lovely boyfriend, even though he's not the father of my child. He is a dad, after all. My ex husband, though, who IS the father of my child ... got ignored.
Mme. Chaucer Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 I think a few of the fellows around here probably will appreciate this performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILz-QHagqE0
Author Woggle Posted June 22, 2011 Author Posted June 22, 2011 I don't think all women are bad. I think for the most part I am just standing up for myself. Is it wrong to refute an article that says I deserve to be betrayed?
Chi townD Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 I hate stuff like this. It's so srewed up nowadays. Now, there saying that if a woman cheats it's a sort of "female empowerment"? Come on. Things have flipped so much, hell just watch Dr. Phil. If a guy cheats he's scum, he's a dog, he's a playa. If a woman cheats, then there was a breakdown of communication, he was emotionally unavailable to me, There was an emotional wall between us. Now, we can add "female empowerment" Hence, if a guy cheats, it's his fault. If a woman cheats it's still the guys fault. Uggh.... Sorry, this just got me going......
silktricks Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 (edited) I don't think all women are bad. I think for the most part I am just standing up for myself. Is it wrong to refute an article that says I deserve to be betrayed? No Woggle, you didn't deserve to be betrayed. NO ONE DOES. And if you feel the need to stand up and say that then do so. But don't go down into that pit of obsessing about the past. You have a great wife now who loves you. What happened to you is in the past. Leave it there. Let it whither away and die. If you continue to obsess about what happened with your first wife, your current wife could feel that she's not as important to you as your 1st wife is. You don't want that to happen, do you? Let it go. There are some pitifully crappy women in the world, just like men. A lot of men (who are raised primarily by women) seem to go off into the world thinking women are better, gentler, kinder, etc... then men are. Then at some point they get hurt. Because their expectations are higher, I think the pain hurts worse. (I obviously have no idea if that is true for you or not, just raising a possibility) Women are no better than men - and no worse. BTW, in answer to your original question: Cheating is lying, betraying, deceiving and mistreating - whether delivered by a man or a woman. For anyone to use the excuse that they are doing it for ANY reason other than pure selfishness lowers the person giving the excuse even more. The idea of feminism originated as an empowerment of women - who were at that time not receiving equal treatment. Cheating is not empowerment. Cheating is just cheating. Edited June 22, 2011 by silktricks
Spark1111 Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 No Woggle, you didn't deserve to be betrayed. NO ONE DOES. And if you feel the need to stand up and say that then do so. But don't go down into that pit of obsessing about the past. You have a great wife now who loves you. What happened to you is in the past. Leave it there. Let it whither away and die. If you continue to obsess about what happened with your first wife, your current wife could feel that she's not as important to you as your 1st wife is. You don't want that to happen, do you? Let it go. There are some pitifully crappy women in the world, just like men. A lot of men (who are raised primarily by women) seem to go off into the world thinking women are better, gentler, kinder, etc... then men are. Then at some point they get hurt. Because their expectations are higher, I think the pain hurts worse. (I obviously have no idea if that is true for you or not, just raising a possibility) Women are no better than men - and no worse. BTW, in answer to your original question: Cheating is lying, betraying, deceiving and mistreating - whether delivered by a man or a woman. For anyone to use the excuse that they are doing it for ANY reason other than pure selfishness lowers the person giving the excuse even more. The idea of feminism originated as an empowerment of women - who were at that time not receiving equal treatment. Cheating is not empowerment. Cheating is just cheating. AMEN to that! I've known male and female cheaters and find both equally messed up; confused, vulnerable, self entitled. I also know many wonderfully committed people who work hard to keep their relationship strong. I also know a few happily remarried exit affairs, where they layed their cards on the table immediately and honestly and moved on.
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