Bertram Posted June 17, 2011 Posted June 17, 2011 Lorelai said: Would they feel deceived or cheated? Or, is it something akin to wearing a bra (boobs look very different without one) or makeup? Also, given that I'm 31 and time does a number on anybody, would men around my age or older reasonably expect their date to have as firm of a body as an 18 year old when the clothes came off? Yes I would feel deceived. Age is not a good excuse: at 31 if you take good care of your body you can look almost as good as a 18 years old. This woman is 43 years old (ignore fake boobs)...
Author Lorelai Posted June 17, 2011 Author Posted June 17, 2011 Mme. Chaucer said: If Lorelei "waits for surgery" she is not going to be any less likely to encounter a guy who runs. Maybe this guy will be running from her scars. Or, he might be running because he's scared of commitment, or he just wanted to "hit it and quit it," or any number of reasons. I feel fortunate that so far in life I have scarred very well after various surgeries -- I had an excisional lymph node biopsy back 10 years ago on the left supraclavicular lymph node. The scar is about an inch below my collarbone, so it shows when I wear a low-cut top. But it's not very noticeable... my ex swears up and down he never noticed it until I pointed it out. I do want plastic surgery. But I've looked at the reality of the procedures that would be involved -- it'd be at least $10k to take care of the midsection (belt lipectomy, a variant on a tummy tuck that leaves a circumferential scar but gives fantastic results because it takes care of any loose skin on the back and lifts the butt) alone. It's considered the most painful cosmetic surgery there is -- and given that plastic surgery is by nature incredibly painful given that there are so many nerve endings in the skin, that's saying a lot. And if I went through that agony and was happy with the result, I'd probably not want to stop there. I'd want a boob lift too, maybe even something to fix the thighs and upper arms. And wouldn't it just totally suck to spend all of that money and then meet someone and have kids? As long as I was careful about weight gain the only thing that would have to be redone would be the tummy, but it would seem an utter shame to ruin such expensive work. If I'm going to do it, I would rather wait until after I'd had kids. Which kinda makes following Eddie's advice a bit difficult.
Mme. Chaucer Posted June 18, 2011 Posted June 18, 2011 Bertram said: Yes I would feel deceived. Age is not a good excuse: at 31 if you take good care of your body you can look almost as good as a 18 years old. This woman is 43 years old (ignore fake boobs)... Chicken Tuna looks like Iggy Pop. Who I adore ... but don't want to resemble, myself. Are you suggesting that a good course of steroids might help Lorelei with her excess skin? Well, who knows, maybe it's worth a little research.
surfrider4284 Posted June 18, 2011 Posted June 18, 2011 a little exercise most days of the week, and a little discipline at the dinner table will go much further than most people think..
Bertram Posted June 18, 2011 Posted June 18, 2011 Mme. Chaucer said: Chicken Tuna looks like Iggy Pop. Who I adore ... but don't want to resemble, myself. Are you suggesting that a good course of steroids might help Lorelei with her excess skin? Well, who knows, maybe it's worth a little research. So very typical to make fun of those who achieve what you could never do. She doesn't use steroids, she is just very lean and so she looks muscular in certain lightning conditions and poses. But if you are convinced that women at 43 must be all fat and podgy because that's nature, there is always the Spandex option...
Els Posted June 18, 2011 Posted June 18, 2011 I am pretty sure that many men find muscularity to that degree on a woman, a turn-off. Not to say that pro athletes, etc, shouldn't do what they do, but if a normal woman desires to attract men, going to that extreme probably is not going to help.
thatone Posted June 18, 2011 Posted June 18, 2011 Bertram said: So very typical to make fun of those who achieve what you could never do. She doesn't use steroids, she is just very lean and so she looks muscular in certain lightning conditions and poses. But if you are convinced that women at 43 must be all fat and podgy because that's nature, there is always the Spandex option... if you think the picture linked is attractive you are the one with uncommon tastes, hate to break it to you but men don't like muscular women by and large.
Mme. Chaucer Posted June 18, 2011 Posted June 18, 2011 surfrider4284 said: a little exercise most days of the week, and a little discipline at the dinner table will go much further than most people think.. Well, the OP has lost 84 pounds, so I think she's pretty well acquainted with discipline at the dinner table and exercise. Probably much more than most of us. She's amazing. She has extra skin.
Mme. Chaucer Posted June 18, 2011 Posted June 18, 2011 Bertram said: So very typical to make fun of those who achieve what you could never do. Quote I'm not making fun. I told you, I love the Igster, I just don't wish to look like him myself. If I actually wanted to invest the great effort to look like that, I imagine I "could." It'n not an interest of mine. Quote She doesn't use steroids, she is just very lean and so she looks muscular in certain lightning conditions and poses. But if you are convinced that women at 43 must be all fat and podgy because that's nature, there is always the Spandex option... I'm not certain how you're so sure about her steroid situation, but it's all beside the point. The OP is not 43 - she has just lost a great deal of weight successfully, and her post is about whether she will be "cheating" potential dates by wearing a girdle.
eerie_reverie Posted June 18, 2011 Posted June 18, 2011 I bet most guys won't care. I've never worn a girdle but I have a pair of spanx tights. All I know is they're PAINFUL. It feels like they squeeze all my inner organs.
Author Lorelai Posted June 18, 2011 Author Posted June 18, 2011 Bertram said: So very typical to make fun of those who achieve what you could never do. She doesn't use steroids, she is just very lean and so she looks muscular in certain lightning conditions and poses. But if you are convinced that women at 43 must be all fat and podgy because that's nature, there is always the Spandex option... Personally, I wouldn't want to be that cut. I'm about a 2 on the Kinsey scale -- I've been with women before but because I want to have a family and kids I'd prefer to have a long-term relationship with a man. Just as I really don't find men who are that cut very attractive, I don't find women with that physique attractive either. Seeing veins pop out when a person is straining is very squicky to me. I read her page and she specifically says that's what she's going for -- that to her that's part of the definition of low body fat. I'm glad for her that she's achieved her goal. My goal is not to be that cut, but to be at a healthy weight and a fitness level that is also indicative of health. A person can be at a healthy weight but totally out of shape -- and when I started this, I could barely do 20 minutes on the lowest setting on the seated elliptical trainer at my gym without being totally exhausted and out of breath. (I use the seated elliptical because I have degenerative joint disease in my knees specifically, and I can keep an aerobic-level heart rate longer on it than I can on a treadmill or standard elliptical). Now I can last an hour, and could keep going except that the setting I use has a higher resistance and I hurt the next day if I do much more than that. My current routine includes that hour and then swimming laps for a cooldown four times a week, and a daily 30 minute walk. It's not the kind of workout that a person who is actively trying to build muscle would do, but I can tell that my fitness level has improved dramatically.... and that is *my* goal.
Els Posted June 19, 2011 Posted June 19, 2011 eerie_reverie said: I bet most guys won't care. I've never worn a girdle but I have a pair of spanx tights. All I know is they're PAINFUL. It feels like they squeeze all my inner organs. I know, right? I could never get how people wore them day in and day out.
Eternal Sunshine Posted June 19, 2011 Posted June 19, 2011 eerie_reverie said: I bet most guys won't care. I've never worn a girdle but I have a pair of spanx tights. All I know is they're PAINFUL. It feels like they squeeze all my inner organs. Exactly. Spanx makes me feel like I can't breathe
SmileFace Posted June 19, 2011 Posted June 19, 2011 Spanx look great but I spend way too much time trying to improve self in the gym already to walk around holding my breath in. I don't understand how people do it everyday - which is weird since I wore them everyday when I was bigger.
toms0321 Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 There is a complete misconception of the benefits of wearing a girdle for both males and females. About 3 years ago I started to develop a mild case of scolosis. I was having troubles with my posture and fitting into some of my clothes. I work out 5 to 6 days and week and am fairly active. I did some research into a solution and found that boned and zippered panty girdle worn daily would help. I found it quite difficult to find the right kind of make and model girdle, I finally decided to locate a professional corsetier. I set up an appointment for a fitting and consulting. What a great experience. I arrived at her office she immediatly looked at me and she told me it was quite obvious I needed the benefits of a very supportive girdle. She talked to me for a little bit about my life style, am I active inactive what I do for a living. It turns out in my case I fairly active but I also have to sit a lot in front of a computer. She then measured both my hips and my waist. She told me that because of my life style and the shape of my body I needed to be in a long legged high waisted boned and zippered panty girdle. She brought out a Rago 6210. I then found out that there is a right way and a wrong way to put on a girdle. The corsetier had me lie down on a bed, pull up the girdle around my ankles and lean way back, this pulled my stomach back towards my chest, she then had me pull up the girdle and hook up the hooks and eyes and pull up the zipper. Then she had me stand up, wow what a great experience, I had never felt so great, I found all of sudden I had a dramatic increase in energy and confidence, I was really amazed. She told me that it will take me a little time to get completly use to being in a girdle, but once use to it I will love it. She told me that the key to becoming use to being in a girdle is to first put putting on a girdle in your daily routine, wake up clean up and put on a girdle. She said the next and this I found the hardest part is to just relax my stomach muscles and let the girdle just hold and support me. She told me that is key because without a girdle you waste a lot of energy and relaxing does help in the increase in energy and confidence. After a few weeks I found that now I am very uncomfortable if I am not well encased in a firm girdle, even when just relaxing around the house. It feels like something is seriously missing. But I do really love how I look and feel I am amazed. To my pleasant surprise I found that now I am completly dependent on wearing a girdle and I actually love the dependency. Trust so will you. If you at all interesting in locating a really good corsetier please email me at toms_0321@yahoo.com
toms0321 Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Elswyth said: I know, right? I could never get how people wore them day in and day out. First it takes getting properly fitted and consulted by a Professional Corsetier. Once you are fitted in the right kind of make and model girdle, and you learn how to put the girdle on you do find over a fairly short period of time you do love wearing a girdle every day.
Feelsgoodman Posted July 20, 2011 Posted July 20, 2011 Mme. Chaucer said: Chicken Tuna looks like Iggy Pop. Who I adore ... but don't want to resemble, myself. Are you suggesting that a good course of steroids might help Lorelei with her excess skin? Well, who knows, maybe it's worth a little research. Predictably idiotic post. Just because she's in good shape (though I think she's a bit too muscular for a woman) does not mean she's taking steroids. Ugly/fat chix always accuse the good looking ones of being anorexic or taking steroids or praying to satan or whatever.
Eternal Sunshine Posted July 20, 2011 Posted July 20, 2011 Pleaseee...men cheat because they lack integrity and their character is flawed. There are tons of examples of men cheating on gorgeous wives with a mistress that is fatter/uglier.
thatone Posted July 20, 2011 Posted July 20, 2011 Eternal Sunshine said: Pleaseee...men cheat because they lack integrity and their character is flawed. i have never seen a more ironic thing posted anywhere.
Eternal Sunshine Posted July 20, 2011 Posted July 20, 2011 thatone said: i have never seen a more ironic thing posted anywhere. Are you implying that I'm a cheater? I have never cheated in my life dude. Some guy asked me to go for hot chocolate as friends. I though about it for a bit but then threw away his number. That's not cheating WTF
lino Posted July 20, 2011 Posted July 20, 2011 I wouldn't get involved with a girdle or anything else similar. It is indeed deception.
Els Posted July 20, 2011 Posted July 20, 2011 I like how some of the guys on this thread think that just because THEY dislike girdles, other men must necessarily do as well. Face it, there's a HUGE fetish out there for corsets and girdles. Not all men are alike. A woman should do what she loves, and there will be someone who will love her for it. Trust me, I've seen men with 'get my partner a girdle/corset' on their wishlist.
thatone Posted July 20, 2011 Posted July 20, 2011 (edited) Elswyth said: Face it, there's a HUGE fetish out there for corsets and girdles. Not all men are alike. A woman should do what she loves, and there will be someone who will love her for it. Trust me, I've seen men with 'get my partner a girdle/corset' on their wishlist. there always has been, they've been used for hundreds of years in varying forms. i think they're incredibly sexy. Eternal Sunshine said: Are you implying that I'm a cheater? I have never cheated in my life dude. Some guy asked me to go for hot chocolate as friends. I though about it for a bit but then threw away his number. That's not cheating WTF nope, but you freely admit to us that you can't help but sneak, snoop, and plot against any and all men you do find. which makes a blanket character statement about men from you pretty funny. Edited July 20, 2011 by thatone
Taramere Posted July 20, 2011 Posted July 20, 2011 Lorelai said: As some might recall, I've been steadily working on losing weight for the last two years. At my highest weight (with a BMI of 44) I would have qualified for gastric bypass surgery, but I'm very happy I was able to lose it without going that route. At the moment my BMI is 28, with about 15 lbs to go until I'm not considered overweight by doctors. Wow! Congratulations on your weight loss. That's fantastic. Quote Unfortunately, even when you take the weight loss slowly, 85 lbs can't disappear without leaving evidence -- I have a lot of loose skin. It makes clothes shopping a huge hassle because it's hard to find clothes that fit and look good. Eventually I want to get a tummy tuck but it's not in my budget now. I know your question is about what men would think of girdles, but just on this subject for a moment...you're thinking of getting surgery in the future, but are you doing other things that might help with this loose skin problem? Here is an article that discusses various ways of helping. A lot of it seems consistent with general advice about staving off cellulite, toning up skin etc. Saltwater baths, body brushing, moisturising, aloe vera and lots of raw foods. Are you doing this kind of stuff already? http://www.findmedicaladvice.com/weight-loss/tightening-of-skin-after-weight-loss.html
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