Attempting Cold Turkey at a Walgreens - Not successful though.

[irc333]

Okay, I have to say, I don't see many women that look like this at a Walgreens, but my eyes simply popped out at this one.

 

This was wearing ALL tight clothes.

 

A hot pink polo-LIKE shirt, fitting VERY tightly on her top section (wasn't revealing cleavage or any skin...she didnt need to)

 

VERY tight pair of jeans and a bubble booty you simply could NOT notice...and of course wearing a pear of heels that just made her walking "Bubble on two legs" even more enhanced.

 

She was browsing the cosmetics wall, and had 2 get a clerk and a manager out to find what she was looking for.

 

I actually "timed it" so we'd appear at the cashier together.

 

I don't know, but when the cashier at the Walgreens said, "You want some M&M's only 2 for a dollar?"

 

And she says, "Oh no, I don't need those, I'll start to look like an M&M"

 

And I said, "That's okay, you're beautiful anyhow" (not sure if that made sense....you see, I can't do cold turkey, I can't come up with a response that makes sense to what she says, but I wanted to be somehow complimentary)

 

Then I noticed her name on her Necklace, and I said, "So, you're name is <insert name here>"

 

And she says, "Yes, how did you know?!" and I said "Well, it says on your necklace."

 

And she says, "Wow, you sure noticed a lot!"

 

And I said, "Well, you're rather hard to miss." and we laughed, unfortunately, she went as separate direction towards her car and I went my way."

 

She seemed like she was not wanting to hang around to chat, so I just backed off.

 

Usually I follow someone's body language, if the language is going in a manner that doesn't seem to be going n MY direction, I don't even seal the deal with , "So, before you head off to your car, can I get your number?"

 

I did notice a "ring" on her left ring figner, but it wasn't a wedding ring, just some real thin ring....so wasn't sure she was married.

 

She did seem to converse in an air-headed kind of manner though. She had a latin accent (that explains the bubble butt probably, lol)

 

So there's the story, my non-success at doing cold turkey, however, I should commended on even ATTEMPTING something. I have a serious weakness for VERY pronounced curves on a woman....she must've had a 24 inch waistline, very petite.

[irc333]

For the record, this woman was definately attempting to attract attention to herself. She would stick out like a sore thumb in a store.

 

The only thing I could think of a woman doing at a drug store at 830 am in the morning dressed like that.

 

Couldnt've been a job interview....I think she was just passing through town, that's the only thing I can think of.

[oaks]

So there's the story, my non-success at doing cold turkey, however, I should commended on even ATTEMPTING something.

 

Ok. Well done for trying.

 

How did it make you feel?

[irc333]

Ok. Well done for trying.

 

How did it make you feel?

 

 

Actually, I kind of liked it, it might become addictive. I was nervous, but....I feel I might be able to do it again, it's a confidence builder actually...that's the REAL brunt of the goal here.

 

It actually gave me kind of a natural high.

 

This was my first time (in a long time) having done this, too. So, this is helping. Plus this is better than online dating I suppose. lol

[Art_Critic]

She was probably there picking up her STD medicine

 

I'd bet the ring on her finger was more than just a thin ring...

 

Good try and each time you get outgoing and do something like this it will get easier and the words will come out better

[irc333]

I'd bet the ring on her finger was more than just a thin ring...

 

Probably one of those pre-pre-engagement promise rings....lol..it was thin and kinda dinky looking to have even noticed from afar, a real thin band with some sparkles in it.

 

No doubt, in a suburban community, a woman like her would snarfed up EASILY boy a man and staked his claim with said ring. I seriously couldn't keep my eyes off of her (butt)

 

I bet if I had a straight pin, I could pop it. lol

[GivenUp0083]

Not bad, 80% of it is just getting the balls to say anything to them at all.

 

I'd recommend not complimenting her right off the bat. Try to make friendly, funny conversation, without showing initial interest.

 

Make it sound like it's just friendly banter. Make a joke, get her to laugh, that's the key in my eyes. If she finds you funny and walks out of the store still talking to you, take your shot.

 

You read the situation correctly though. And those aren't the type of women you want to go for anyway. I like to look out for what I call "hidden hotties". Maybe they go grocery shopping in pajamas or sweats on a saturday morning. The don't look smoking hot at this point in time, but if you are generally kind and get them to laugh while they aren't dolled up, they'll realize you are more into them other than their looks.

 

You'd be surprised how women look after getting dolled up. Try to get good at paying attention to other features and go after women that aren't dressed like they're trying to catch an STD that night.

[carhill]

Kudos to you, OP, for a nice spontaneous conversation. That's a great example of what I've been doing for decades. The lady was friendly and not flirtatious. She was dressed in a way you found provocative. If she was indeed 'taken', how would you say she fit into the premise of the other thread you started?

[USCGAviator]

Actually, I kind of liked it, it might become addictive. I was nervous, but....I feel I might be able to do it again, it's a confidence builder actually...that's the REAL brunt of the goal here.l

 

 

That's what I'm talking about man!! Some men have this fear that women are going to scream in their face "Why the F*** are you talking to me you ugly troll"

When in reality women are flattered when men politely hit on them.

 

Keep up the good work and your confidence will soon pay off

[irc333]

That's what I'm talking about man!! Some men have this fear that women are going to scream in their face "Why the F*** are you talking to me you ugly troll"

When in reality women are flattered when men politely hit on them.

 

Keep up the good work and your confidence will soon pay off

 

I actually thought of YOUR post earlier, that kind of made me want to make the approach.

 

Also, the fact it was 8 am, it was pretty quiet in the store, and she was by yourself with a slamming body.

 

I figured I HAD to do something about this.

 

I was kind of wondering why she'd be dressed like this so early in the morn though.

[oaks]

I was kind of wondering why she'd be dressed like this so early in the morn though.

 

On her way home from the night before?

[Feelsgoodman]

And I said, "That's okay, you're beautiful anyhow" (not sure if that made sense....you see, I can't do cold turkey, I can't come up with a response that makes sense to what she says, but I wanted to be somehow complimentary)

 

And I said, "Well, you're rather hard to miss."

The above quoted lines are a perfect examples of how NOT to approach women. 99% of the time, the generic "you are so beautiful" come on is the kiss of death. It only works if:

 

1) the girl in question is 12 years old or younger and has never been complimented before (to be clear, I am NOT suggesting you try to pick up 12 year olds...)

2) the girl in question is ugly and rarely, if ever, gets complemented by men

3) you are famous and/or ridiculously good looking and your target is smitten just being in your presence

 

If the target is good looking and old enough to be past the jailbait threshold, she has heard the "you're so beautiful" line hundreds of times before. And most of the time, it was from socially awkward, unattractive and overall not particularly desirable men. So when you say those words, you trigger a gag reflex and automatically lower yourself in her eyes, thereby killing whatever mutual attraction may have existed. Why do you think she laughed and walked away? It certainly wasn't because you said something funny or clever. She was laughing at YOU.

 

Getting phone numbers at a place like Walgreens isn't easy. If you're going to try it, you have to make it situational, such as commenting on something in the store (i.e. if the line is moving slowly, roll your eyes, smile and say 'I always pick the wrong line' or something to that extent) and then gage her reaction. If she is receptive and willing to engage in conversation, take it from there. If she doesn't maintain eye contact and gives you a curt response, drop it and forget about her.

Edited June 13, 2011 by Feelsgoodman

[irc333]

If the target is good looking and old enough to be past the jailbait threshold, she has heard the "you're so beautiful" line hundreds of times before.

 

True, but chances are she might not hear it frequently enough, becuase no one really approaches her in such a manner.

 

Esp. at an every day place like Walgreens...of course, she might get this a lot at a nightclub/bar....but at Walgreens...it's too random that a guy would try this.

 

That's what might make this not as really a big deal when done in this manner (just something I was thinking when I was approaching her)

 

I bet there are ALOT of women, even pretty ones, that don't get hit on at a mall, store, etc.

 

Chances are, men are typically eyeballing her, but never approaching FIGURING she wants to be left alone to her errands.

 

For as long as where I lived, I had noticed a hot woman in a store somewhere, but NEVER seen a man approach her, she would spend the ENTIRE time alone without anyone trying to talk to her. Except maybe a male store clerk that would try to use his position as a reason to appraoch....but that's about it...bu even then, the boss might get irritated for takign too long with the customer for just screwin around on the clock.

 

I could sit at a Cafe Court, see a hot woman sit down to eat, for a full half hour and not see a man approach her.

 

I see this time and time again, so this might mean that she never gets appraoched, of course, I live in an area where it's not a "singles lifestyle", like if she was in a New York City bookstore, then yes...men probably would approach her..but at a small town CVS phamacy, it's just no expected.

 

So you kind of have to gauge it on a case by case basis.

 

You're right the "kiss of death" more than likely....but...well, whatever, a lot women have been known complain about their boyfriends or husbands complimenting them, but if she's single, it's the opposite? lol wierd.

 

I usually don't compliment a woman on her beauty, and try to strike up regular conversations, but I figured this might be different.....just a chance to take.

 

I mean, if you're flaunting a body like that, chances are she might even welcome a compliment, regardless.

[irc333]

If she is receptive and willing to engage in conversation, take it from there. If she doesn't maintain eye contact and gives you a curt response, drop it and forget about her.

 

Agreed, and most times this has often occured with me when even striking up NON-complimentary conversations at store, malls, etc.

 

This allowed me a long lull at even doing the COLD TURKEY approach. Because when I talk to women, they seem to have one foot pointing to the door, as if they were in a hurry to leave or be on their way.

 

It's also location, some women are thinking, "WHy is this person talking to me? I don't even know him"

 

Yes, I live in a societ of hermits...where being appraoched by strangers and making NEW friends is unorthodox, and typically, they content in their relatinoships and friendships with the people they grew up with since HighSchool.

 

It's a bit of a "clannish" type of community, and anyone NEW trying to bust through that fishbowl community, will struggle.

 

So not only trying to approach a woman, but making friends in general can be challenging, depending on the environment you're in.

 

I think that's why I chose the unorthodox way of pointing out how she doesn't need make up, she's a natural beauty.

[Feelsgoodman]

I could sit at a Cafe Court, see a hot woman sit down to eat, for a full half hour and not see a man approach her.

That's because North American women, unlike their counterparts in some other parts of the world, generally react negatively to cold approaches (and most men know this). The cold approach is usually seen as creepy or desperate. No matter what the "pick up artists" would have you believe, cold approaching is mostly a waste of time, though it can be a good strategy for overcoming natural shyness)

[quietGuy13]

That's because North American women, unlike their counterparts in some other parts of the world, generally react negatively to cold approaches (and most men know this). The cold approach is usually seen as creepy or desperate. No matter what the "pick up artists" would have you believe, cold approaching is mostly a waste of time, though it can be a good strategy for overcoming natural shyness)

 

And Cold approaches don't work with foreign women either. (Maybe they work if you're from the same ethnicity or race) So far i've tried cold approaches with foreign women and it doesn't work either. Could be because i'm not from their same ethnicity though.

[irc333]

I have noticed cold approaches tend to work in movies though.

[fishtaco]

All good. You had the balls to go up and make a move, that's the most important part. Cold approaches are difficult to pull off and low percentage. But it's like resistance training. If you can do that, then hitting on an acquaintance at a friend's party should be a walk in the park.

 

But by default, you don't want to open with compliments. Using compliments ONLY when you understand the situation and know that's the best approach. If unsure, don't use compliments.

 

Problem with compliments, in addition to "they've heard it many times", is immediately you've placed them above you -- they are higher than you are in the pecking order of social perception. So if you are the big fish in the small pond, you've already established your social dominance, then using compliment is fine, because then you are "bringing them up to you", as opposed "lifting them up from underneath". Small difference, large impact.

 

But these are just details. Like GivenUp0083 said, you already have 80%. The last 20%, experiment. This was one experiment. Next time, try something else.

 

Good job.

Edited June 13, 2011 by fishtaco

[GivenUp0083]

The above quoted lines are a perfect examples of how NOT to approach women. 99% of the time, the generic "you are so beautiful" come on is the kiss of death. It only works if:

 

1) the girl in question is 12 years old or younger and has never been complimented before (to be clear, I am NOT suggesting you try to pick up 12 year olds...)

2) the girl in question is ugly and rarely, if ever, gets complemented by men

3) you are famous and/or ridiculously good looking and your target is smitten just being in your presence

 

If the target is good looking and old enough to be past the jailbait threshold, she has heard the "you're so beautiful" line hundreds of times before. And most of the time, it was from socially awkward, unattractive and overall not particularly desirable men. So when you say those words, you trigger a gag reflex and automatically lower yourself in her eyes, thereby killing whatever mutual attraction may have existed. Why do you think she laughed and walked away? It certainly wasn't because you said something funny or clever. She was laughing at YOU.

 

Getting phone numbers at a place like Walgreens isn't easy. If you're going to try it, you have to make it situational, such as commenting on something in the store (i.e. if the line is moving slowly, roll your eyes, smile and say 'I always pick the wrong line' or something to that extent) and then gage her reaction. If she is receptive and willing to engage in conversation, take it from there. If she doesn't maintain eye contact and gives you a curt response, drop it and forget about her.

 

I really agree with this, despite how harsh it is....it's the truth.

 

What I bolded above is what I call "throwing out a flier". You're not confessing your love, you're not directly puting her on the spot, you're not giving off any kind of hint that you're even attracted to her. You're simply throwing out a flier to her and give her the chance to interact with you. If she doesn't respond or engage in any conversation then she's not having it and you didn't even lose any dignity, because you never directly went for her. If she's cool and she's friendly (great qualities) she'll banter with you. This isn't a guarantee she's interested, but she's biting the bait.

 

Learning to banter and just make random conversation shows confidence and personality. Women like this. If you just stop thinking so much about what these girls think and just treat everyone as if they're your friend, you'll find more women flocking to you naturally and wanting to be around you because you're fun and friendly.

 

Again, I cannot stress this enough: if you can make them laugh, you give yourself a huge advantage.

[irc333]

Actually, what also made me make the approach was a couple days prior, a woman I know in real life that I had been talking to through a social networking site actually asked for MY number.

 

This amped up my confidence, as we were really clicking.

 

I was seriously walking on air to have a woman ask for my number, and this caused me to peak my confidence, and do what I did today.

 

It can snowball.

[VertexSquared]

The above quoted lines are a perfect examples of how NOT to approach women. 99% of the time, the generic "you are so beautiful" come on is the kiss of death. It only works if:

 

1) the girl in question is 12 years old or younger and has never been complimented before (to be clear, I am NOT suggesting you try to pick up 12 year olds...)

2) the girl in question is ugly and rarely, if ever, gets complemented by men

3) you are famous and/or ridiculously good looking and your target is smitten just being in your presence

 

If the target is good looking and old enough to be past the jailbait threshold, she has heard the "you're so beautiful" line hundreds of times before. And most of the time, it was from socially awkward, unattractive and overall not particularly desirable men. So when you say those words, you trigger a gag reflex and automatically lower yourself in her eyes, thereby killing whatever mutual attraction may have existed. Why do you think she laughed and walked away? It certainly wasn't because you said something funny or clever. She was laughing at YOU.

 

Getting phone numbers at a place like Walgreens isn't easy. If you're going to try it, you have to make it situational, such as commenting on something in the store (i.e. if the line is moving slowly, roll your eyes, smile and say 'I always pick the wrong line' or something to that extent) and then gage her reaction. If she is receptive and willing to engage in conversation, take it from there. If she doesn't maintain eye contact and gives you a curt response, drop it and forget about her.

 

I agree with this logic 100% -- took the words right out of my mouth. Also great advice here with respect to "situational" conversation-starters. I'd recommend, irc333, that you try something like this in the future -- I think you'd have a lot more success.

[Shaun-Dro]

Okay, I have to say, I don't see many women that look like this at a Walgreens, but my eyes simply popped out at this one.

 

This was wearing ALL tight clothes.

 

A hot pink polo-LIKE shirt, fitting VERY tightly on her top section (wasn't revealing cleavage or any skin...she didnt need to)

 

VERY tight pair of jeans and a bubble booty you simply could NOT notice...and of course wearing a pear of heels that just made her walking "Bubble on two legs" even more enhanced.

 

She was browsing the cosmetics wall, and had 2 get a clerk and a manager out to find what she was looking for.

 

I actually "timed it" so we'd appear at the cashier together.

 

I don't know, but when the cashier at the Walgreens said, "You want some M&M's only 2 for a dollar?"

 

And she says, "Oh no, I don't need those, I'll start to look like an M&M"

 

And I said, "That's okay, you're beautiful anyhow" (not sure if that made sense....you see, I can't do cold turkey, I can't come up with a response that makes sense to what she says, but I wanted to be somehow complimentary)

 

Then I noticed her name on her Necklace, and I said, "So, you're name is <insert name here>"

 

And she says, "Yes, how did you know?!" and I said "Well, it says on your necklace."

 

And she says, "Wow, you sure noticed a lot!"

 

And I said, "Well, you're rather hard to miss." and we laughed, unfortunately, she went as separate direction towards her car and I went my way."

 

She seemed like she was not wanting to hang around to chat, so I just backed off.

 

Usually I follow someone's body language, if the language is going in a manner that doesn't seem to be going n MY direction, I don't even seal the deal with , "So, before you head off to your car, can I get your number?"

 

I did notice a "ring" on her left ring figner, but it wasn't a wedding ring, just some real thin ring....so wasn't sure she was married.

 

She did seem to converse in an air-headed kind of manner though. She had a latin accent (that explains the bubble butt probably, lol)

 

So there's the story, my non-success at doing cold turkey, however, I should commended on even ATTEMPTING something. I have a serious weakness for VERY pronounced curves on a woman....she must've had a 24 inch waistline, very petite.

 

Latin girls are one of the most curvy. My sweetie is a young Latina at just 20 with a sexy waistline and a small bubble booty. I love it. Honestly I do feel you were too nice to her, so she had no reason to stay around, if you get what I mean? There's a special way to deal with the empty attractive dames.

[grkBoy]

First off, I think it's great irc333 took a chance. It's the one thing I think guys need to do more.

 

Secondly, I don't see it as bad to try using a complement as an opening in this situation. If I was standing there, I'd probably would say "I find that hard to believe" and go from there.

 

I know some people believe using a compliment "hands all the power to her", but I think if a woman is going to think a man is creepy for saying something nice to her, it speaks volumes on why men should not deal with her. I mean, seriously, and I'm jumping way into hypothetical thinking here...if she were to think irc333 was totally creepy for daring to say she was beautiful, and then ran home to get anally banged by some jerk of a boyfriend while he constantly tells her she's an ugly b!tch...what does that say then about her?

 

Do pretty women hear loads of compliments? Maybe. I consider my GF to be very beautiful, but she's honestly not had men her age tell her that much at all before she met me.

 

The key to this whole tale today is:

 

1. Take chances. If you see the opportunity, take a risk. What do you have to lose?
   
2. Don't be afraid to compliment a girl. If you say it confidently and do not back off or cower if she suddenly acts strange...then it'll work. I've told total strangers they look amazing or they have a beautiful dress, and I received a smile and "thank you" for it. If one turned into "crazy psycho", then I'll hold my ground, roll my eyes, and move on.
   
3. Don't let a failure stop you. So this one didn't work out. The next one might.