mr.dream merchant Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 There's a couple things to this post. So let's get started shall we? :-) 1. About a year or so ago, I managed to click with the chick that every dude in highschool wanted to lay. Gorgeous body, gorgeous face, Cuban and Brazilian. A complete bombshell. Back in highschool she didn't really notice me, I was a scrawny cat with a mop top to boot. Fast forward to a year ago, she noticed I was putting on some muscle and good looks. But! She was in a relationship with a guy, and one that she jumped right into after breaking up with her ex whom she was with since we were in highschool. I took up interest in her friend, and I guess through this, she started using it as an excuse to keep in touch with me. Things between her friend and I didn't work out (her friend wanted me to **** her on the first date and I didn't, so she disappeared then flipped it around on me that all I wanted was sex haha wow I wasn't surprised either.) So a couple months go by, she ends up breaking up with the guy she rushed into a relationship with (I didn't know.) I run into her at the mall with another woman on my arm, a gorgeous gorgeous Egyptian lady but things didn't work out because her body was a little too sloppy. We talked, then went our separate ways. I guess after seeing me in person, she really wanted a piece. So she starts texting me a week after, and I managed to get her on the phone. On the phone she starts talking about alot of sexual things. How wet her vagina gets, what her favorite position is, what's the most sexual thoughts I've had about her, etc. I mean really letting me know that she wants to ****. We talked for 3 hours about sex, looking back on it I should've just met up with her and ****ed her stupid that night but I was trying to play it cool. She said she wanted to keep what she had with me a secret because if her recent ex found out he'd flip (the guy she broke up with after 2 months of dating). She made plans to go panty shopping and have me be her second opinion lol. I had a crazy boner just thinking about it. Then she disappears. Turns out she gets back with the guy she dated for 2 months. Asked me to get rid of the pictures she sent me and that she wanted to keep what went on between us a secret. I laughed, said ok. She offered me friendship, I declined. Told her that what I wanted with her was obvious, and friendship was something I wasn't interested in. Fast forward to last week. She's now engaged to the guy lol. I laughed. He has no idea how she was acting in that 2 week hiatus she took from their relationship yet he will be making her his wife. It's these kinds of things that make me stray further away from trying to love a woman again. Am I gonna be stuck with some freaked out jump off who keeps it locked away cause she's ashamed? Am I going to be manipulated into thinking my woman is a classy well reserved person? It's scary. 2. I've been at my new job for a couple months now (that I love a lot, **** my job rocks.) It's been pretty manageable, so far none of the women have made any moves or borderline out of line comments. There has been this gay guy however, who always comments on something about my body. One day it's my arms, the next it's my chest, then my back...zzzz....I avoid him now. Let me introduce you to AP, she's an overweight woman who has a colorful past but is now "happily" married. We chit chat often, she's got a laid back personality, easy to get along with. I take it she's a man in a woman's body...or as women like to say "I'm just like one of the guys!" Lol, yeah right. Anyways, she's told me stuff like how she's friends with guys she used to ****. And that she'll even have them come over and hang out with her and her husband. I asked if her husband knew these guys used to **** her, she replied "It's none of his business." I thought, wow, that's pretty ****ed up that you'd even bring dudes who used to plow you senseless into your man's house, he probably offered them all kinds of hospitality. Today I needed her to check off on the batch of specimens I delivered to the lab. While doing so, we were chit chatting and she brought up her thyroid issues and how it caused her to gain lots of weight and how she used to be skinny. Meanwhile she kept staring at me and commenting on my arms (I was wearing a hanes v-neck..never again btw.). I laughed and said wow do you have a picture I bet you look totally different. She says "yeah, give me your phone number I'll text it to you." I looked at her for a moment while she was standing there holding her phone out, and then declined politely telling her to make a post it note to herself to bring it to work. I mentioned this to a co-worker of mine and he said that she's been making moves on him to, and constantly bringing up sexual conversation with him. How the **** can I even begin to be optimistic about women today when all I see around me is dishonest women and scandalous hoes? Damn. I don't want a ****ing girlfriend. I do but I don't. Cause all women seem to do today is get a guy for security, and then hunger from some other man/men and money. I'd rather fall in love with my ****ing money. ****ing hoes. (Forgive the punctuation and language, but I express myself better with vulgar language lol.)
dispatch3d Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 2 women are crazy therefore all women are crazy? Can't you just focus on the nice ones for a change?
vsmini Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 Fuel for the fire? So I'll fight fire with fire. All women are terrible. Especially when a guy like you does everything right. You just can't catch a break. It's time to give up and cuddle with your money. You will never find happiness with a woman. Women are only wired to bring misery, contempt and problems. Men are only wired to bring happiness, contentment and consolation. There are no exceptions. This is scientific fact. There - that has to make you feel a little better.
vsmini Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 2 women are crazy therefore all women are crazy? Can't you just focus on the nice ones for a change? This guy is the male version of the women that only go for "bad boys" They only chase the good looking ones that treat them like crap and then say "all men are bad" - No personal responsibility (it's always on the opposite sex) and they get frustrated way too easily. The kind of people who only know how to chase other unhealthy people. A dime a dozen.
Author mr.dream merchant Posted June 10, 2011 Author Posted June 10, 2011 I go for the good ones. Just surrounded by hoes and their shiesty ways.
iris219 Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 (edited) I go for the good ones. Just surrounded by hoes and their shiesty ways. Are you sure you go for the good ones? Why are you worrying about something that hasn’t directly happened to you yet? Some people are immoral and disreputable (scandalous), some aren’t. It’s that simple. I know it’s hard to trust people—hence my last thread about players--so we're always taking chances. Do you really believe every woman in the world is a closet whore? Since you might, let me tell, we are not. We are looking just as hard for meaningful relationships with men we can trust. I can never imagine engaging in the behaviors you speak of. It’s just not me. I literally couldn’t do it. If you tend to attract ONLY these sorts of women, you have to ask what it is about you that makes that possible. Keep in mind that many men have never been exposed to the sort of women you speak of (because they really aren’t as common as you think and they don't attract them). I think you are aware of many of your behaviors and the effect they are going to have on others, but you do them anyway. You have to know that some on here will be annoyed with you saying you dropped a beautiful girl because her body wasn’t perfect. Was this really the reason, or was there more to it than that? I think there was probably more to it (because I believe you have more substance), but you leave that part out. You seem to work hard to maintain a certain persona that might be popular where you live, but won’t necessarily attract the right kind of girl. Edited June 10, 2011 by iris219
Ms. Joolie Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 (edited) I think you are aware of many of your behaviors and the effect they are going to have on others, but you do them anyway. . Actually, I don't know if he is aware of this. OP, if you think you are hott and chicks are sluts - guess what? You are going to be hott and chicks are going to be sluts to you. That's just how the world works. What you see is what you get. I can think that I am a great public speaker and I can think everyone else wants to hear what I have to say. Guess what? I would be taking all the actions of being a great public speaker and I would be speaking to others a lot because they want to hear what I have to say! (just an example... haha) So you are in this world of thinking you are hott and chicks are sluts, acting like you are hott and making all the right moves with chicks (because they are sluts). What there is to really get is that have so much more to offer than just your body, a world beyond sex, and once you start looking at women and treating them as women rather than just sluts you will start shifting your world. It's up to you, not them. You shift who you are, and the rest follows. I can guarantee you that people in healthy relationships have a healthy perspective about who they are for others and who others are for them. Edited June 10, 2011 by Ms. Joolie
Woggle Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 I don't agree with him but can he get some empathy? I used to work with two women that bragged all day about their affairs and talked about it like they were liberated feminists expressing their sexuality. There were times when I seriously felt like going home and telling my wife I wanted a divorce after hearing the stuff they said. I know how absurd that sounds but right now the OP is in the same spot and he desperately wants something to restore some faith in women because right now it is pretty much zero. Can women on here honestly say they have never felt similar cynicism about men?
Cee Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 I don't agree with him but can he get some empathy? I used to work with two women that bragged all day about their affairs and talked about it like they were liberated feminists expressing their sexuality. There were times when I seriously felt like going home and telling my wife I wanted a divorce after hearing the stuff they said. I know how absurd that sounds but right now the OP is in the same spot and he desperately wants something to restore some faith in women because right now it is pretty much zero. Can women on here honestly say they have never felt similar cynicism about men? Here's my empathetic response to the OP. Dating sucks and hurts badly sometimes. I hope I never have to go back into the dating cesspool. If dating is upsetting your sense of balance and perspective, then step back. If a woman if making you crazy, then cut her out of your life. If you feel like all you are attracting, are hoes, then don't date anybody. Spend time with your friends and enjoy your summer. Sometimes you need some peace to get perspective. And when you don't feel as demoralized, then step back into the game.
snug.bunny Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 Your personality reminds me of the person who hates drugs, because drugs are bad, but can't stop using...because it feels so good.
Dorie Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 I go for the good ones. Just surrounded by hoes and their shiesty ways. Are you able to land a good one, Mr. Dream Merchant?
alethean Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 I don't agree with him but can he get some empathy? I used to work with two women that bragged all day about their affairs and talked about it like they were liberated feminists expressing their sexuality. Those women and their affairs have nothing to do with "feminism" and everything to do with their selfishness. Can women on here honestly say they have never felt similar cynicism about men?Ehh, sometimes but not to this extent whatsoever. Mostly my anger is aimed toward myself. I can relate more to posters who always think there is something wrong with them than someone who thinks there is something wrong with everyone else. Not that excessive anger is healthy no matter where it's geared. Honestly, that's probably why it's harder for me to feel empathy for some people. I can tell they are hurting, and I understand that...but I am put on the defensive when I read such hurtful characterizations, and I can't get past that. No shade to the OP though.
Woggle Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 I know their affairs have nothing to do with feminism but sadly people like that have co-opted it. I empathized because I know exactly how he feels. There was a time when I though good and honest women didn't exist. I know better now but I understand the complete hopelessness that seeing a woman like that inspires.
alethean Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 I know their affairs have nothing to do with feminism but sadly people like that have co-opted it. I empathized because I know exactly how he feels. There was a time when I though good and honest women didn't exist. I know better now but I understand the complete hopelessness that seeing a woman like that inspires. Yes. Thanks for replying. Breakdowns like this help me, especially in the moments that I am prone to selfishness and overlooking the pain of others.
vsmini Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 I know their affairs have nothing to do with feminism but sadly people like that have co-opted it. I empathized because I know exactly how he feels. There was a time when I though good and honest women didn't exist. I know better now but I understand the complete hopelessness that seeing a woman like that inspires. Having/showing empathy is really important. Unfortunately OP has a pretty established reputation of posting some really rude, nasty, sexist and offensive things on LS. So........homeboy is on his own.
Woggle Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 Having/showing empathy is really important. Unfortunately OP has a pretty established reputation of posting some really rude, nasty, sexist and offensive things on LS. So........homeboy is on his own. Now we see the root of his misogynistic views. Would you feel the same way if this was a woman writing about a man?
snug.bunny Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 Now we see the root of his misogynistic views. Would you feel the same way if this was a woman writing about a man? If a woman was going around sexing it up like the OP does, called the men she slept with hoes, used them all for sex, treated them like dirt, and then complained there weren't any "good guys", absolutely.
vsmini Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 (edited) Now we see the root of his misogynistic views. Would you feel the same way if this was a woman writing about a man? Heck yes I would. I don't care if it's a man or woman- this pointing the finger business is so weak. All these people talking about how damaged they feel at the hands of an entire sex. all men do this all women do that it's a cry baby b*tch of a nuisance. I don't take him very seriously at all. How can anyone? He's almost at Eternal Sunshine status in regards to time wasting with this crap. Edited June 10, 2011 by vsmini
Ms. Joolie Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 (edited) I don't agree with him but can he get some empathy? I used to work with two women that bragged all day about their affairs and talked about it like they were liberated feminists expressing their sexuality. There were times when I seriously felt like going home and telling my wife I wanted a divorce after hearing the stuff they said. I know how absurd that sounds but right now the OP is in the same spot and he desperately wants something to restore some faith in women because right now it is pretty much zero. Can women on here honestly say they have never felt similar cynicism about men? At 19 I had a huge breakdown in my relationships. It's like at 18 I was on top of the world and so full of myself but it all caught up with me, really fast. The parties and dating and looking good mentality was okay for a little while, but as I advanced in my 20's I began looking at other things in life. I've never been cynical toward men, but my perspective shifted. I began to not be so flirty, free, open and available to men. I became more gaurded I guess, saw them differently, wasn't on date mode anymore and all that. I had my focus on other things. So my viewpoint isn't one of "men are dogs"... but by default and experience it is one of being more guarded until a relationship is established. (friendly, business, etc. I would say romantic but I have a fiance now,ty.) That's just me. I do emphasize with the OP, don't want him to give up hope in creating more meaningful relationships for himself, and being the kind of person who's able to do that. Or maybe I can't emphasize since I've never had that men are dogs attitude. I've had my own issues. lol Edited June 10, 2011 by Ms. Joolie
Author mr.dream merchant Posted June 12, 2011 Author Posted June 12, 2011 I can pull good or bad girls. Just so happens there's more bad ones than good. Seeing hoes in action just puts a bad taste in my mouth.
thehead Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 I can pull good or bad girls. Just so happens there's more bad ones than good. Seeing hoes in action just puts a bad taste in my mouth. Don't let it embitter you man. Go for the good girls if that's where your head's at.
Intergalactic Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 maybe the "good" girls aren't interested in a guy who might drop them the second their body "gets sloppy". what a dick move.
Dorie Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 I go for the good ones. Just surrounded by hoes and their shiesty ways. You have a similar situation to that of an attractive female who garners much attention from the opposite sex, some of it unwanted and discouraging. So, try not to be influenced by these negatives or life will seem very tiresome indeed.
rafallus Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 Not all women make good lifetime partners in general. Now that you realized it, you can either: 1)detach from them once you spot their crumminess and keep looking for compatible woman (by description that would probably be your favourite option) 2)derive some masochistic pleasure from hearing how ****ed up they were. 3)or take hedonistic stance and just bone them. It all depends on what you really want.
Author mr.dream merchant Posted June 12, 2011 Author Posted June 12, 2011 maybe the "good" girls aren't interested in a guy who might drop them the second their body "gets sloppy". what a dick move. I want a woman who works just as hard on her health as much as I do, it wasn't a dick move - it was sticking to my standards.
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