singlelife Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 Women are just attracted to them. Women like to have fun and not be stressed out. Bad boys do that for them. Some of the men on this forum need to losen up.
Woggle Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 That's funny since bad boys tend to stress women out quite a bit.
Author singlelife Posted June 4, 2011 Author Posted June 4, 2011 They seem to like that kind of stress. Because at least the have fun along with it. Better than being bored with stress.
vsmini Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 Yes - bad boys always get the *girl * - the girl that is chasing after validation and trying to desperately make the man see in her what she desperately wants to see in herself. This girl will put up with said "bad" boy because she has low self-esteem and thinks if he's not fully committed to her it must be because she needs to kick it into gear and make herself seem/be more appealing. She'll make excuses for the bad boy, ignore red flags and get upset when she can't understand why she's attracted to this guy. Yes - bad boys do seem to get this kind of girl. Enjoy her.
abbeylouwho Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 Negative. Not all girls like the bad boys. Just like all guys don't like the slutty girls.
oldguy Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 That's funny since bad boys tend to stress women out quite a bit. Yup, I was the bad boy when I was younger and I did cause stress & there was a certain type that I always found myself with. I had a great time & hope they did but in retrospect I hope the ones I remember changed as much as I have. LOL
Woggle Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 Yes - bad boys always get the *girl * - the girl that is chasing after validation and trying to desperately make the man see in her what she desperately wants to see in herself. This girl will put up with said "bad" boy because she has low self-esteem and thinks if he's not fully committed to her it must be because she needs to kick it into gear and make herself seem/be more appealing. She'll make excuses for the bad boy, ignore red flags and get upset when she can't understand why she's attracted to this guy. Yes - bad boys do seem to get this kind of girl. Enjoy her. Very true. I don't care how good these women look because the ones that go for them are headcases.
oldguy Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 Negative. Not all girls like the bad boys. Just like all guys don't like the slutty girls. And the old adage; "good guys finish last", that entirely depends on who's keeping score & how long the race is :-) I did not become the man I am because the man I was was working for me.
carhill Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 I did not become the man I am because the man I was was working for me. That would be a wonderful signature line. If more people reflected upon themselves like that....one can wish Topically, bad boys always get some girls, and that is how we perceive them. We often overlook the details of that dynamic, rather just see the pairing and apply whatever pejorative we might be feeling at the time. If/when I think about that, and it was a far more prevalent feeling when a younger man, it said more about me than it did the bad boy or the girl he was with. My own self-image, my own insecurities. Life teaches a lot of lessons.
rafallus Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 Meh, I've seen plenty of nice guys who do get laid quite a bit, and jerks who don't (even been one for some time). It's not about nice vs bad, it's about sexy vs unsexy. But it doesn't so controversial, right?
Author singlelife Posted June 4, 2011 Author Posted June 4, 2011 I don't think just because a woman dates a bad boy that makes her a loser or crazy in the brain. She just wants to experience life and have fun.
vsmini Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 I don't think just because a woman dates a bad boy that makes her a loser or crazy in the brain. She just wants to experience life and have fun. This is true - as long as the woman isn't surprised or swayed at all when he shows her little to no respect. But....that doesn't sound like fun to me...even if you are completely indifferent to it. I'm assuming the term bad boy means the kind of guys that don't keep consistent communication, flake out on things, and have little investment/regard for the girl's feelings. If this is the case - I've never come across a personal friend, friend of a friend, or family member who dated a bad boy and didn't have some sort of issue with him and the way she was being treated. *EDIT* some sort of issue with the way she was LETTING him treat her.
Woggle Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 There is a difference between a guy who just wants some fun and lets a woman know that upfront and a jerk who uses women. I see women enjoy themselves with the former but twist themselves into knots over the latter. The sad thing is that men like this really do seem to do good with women.
youaretheone Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 True, bad boy gets the girl but then loses her quick because he disrespects her. Who really gets the girl and maintains a strong relationship is the "boy" without the bad. Definition of the "boy": the man who is confident, doesn't put women on a pedestal, doesn't tolerate disrespectful behaviour and treats every women equally no matter how beautiful they are.
Baaytje Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 Bad boys get the girls you want? that can be true but do you also know because of what cause? girls think they can get an extraordinary experience with bad guys because they dare more that the "normal" guy! So if you aren't a bad guy but you can make her belief that you can give her an extra ordinary experience than you are in! look at http://free-datinghelp.weebly.com/ for more info! bye
Stung Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 A lot of girls go through a bad boy phase, but it's usually temporary. Only the troubled, downtrodden women actually end up with a bad MAN. There are plenty of good guys getting laid too, and they far more often end up in happy, productive relationships. Maybe that's not what you're looking for at the moment, so you're focusing on the high turnover rates of the "bad boy" and valuing quantity over quality, idk. I had a bad boy phase, and I also went through a bad girl phase and the good guys who dated me then were dating me because they were attracted to bitches and danger--yeah, that flip side of the coin happens too, kids. Fortunately everything evened out, sharp corners sanded down by time. Through experience comes wisdom, and all that good stuff. I'm a good woman happily married to a good man, raising kids, chasing down our corner of the "American dream". My bad boy phase is a half-forgotten blip on the radar and my life still spreads out golden before me with a wonderful man at my side.
oldguy Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 A lot of girls go through a bad boy phase, but it's usually temporary. Only the troubled, downtrodden women actually end up with a bad MAN. Your right. The women I attracted in my bad boy days weren't anymore the relationship type than I was. The few that I know of either change, like me & the couple that didn't have seen some rough times
somedude81 Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 I don't think just because a woman dates a bad boy that makes her a loser or crazy in the brain. She just wants to experience life and have fun. What, a nice guy can't show a woman a good time? What kind of fun does a bad boy provide?
carhill Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 What kind of fun does a bad boy provide? Robert did a lot of good in the world but also was repeatedly in trouble with the law, notably for assaulting his promoter in the late 70's, and had a relatively 'colorful' life with women whilst married for 38 years. Boundaries were made to be tested by him. Quintessential bad boy in the 'good' sense of the word, IMO. The 'fun' was in the excitement, the adrenalin, he generated. If you've ever gone upside down on a roller coaster or bungie jumped from a bridge, it's that 'feeling' which some women equate with 'fun' with a bad boy.
nordic Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 Yes - bad boys always get the *girl * - the girl that is chasing after validation and trying to desperately make the man see in her what she desperately wants to see in herself. This girl will put up with said "bad" boy because she has low self-esteem and thinks if he's not fully committed to her it must be because she needs to kick it into gear and make herself seem/be more appealing. She'll make excuses for the bad boy, ignore red flags and get upset when she can't understand why she's attracted to this guy. Yes - bad boys do seem to get this kind of girl. Enjoy her. who cares. as long as its for sex, it doesnt matter what kind of girl she is, as long as she is hot. plus, the distinction between good and bad girl is not clear. girls behave differently in different situations. your wife might have been under a bunch of bad boys before she decided to be a good girl with you:)
Shaun-Dro Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 Yes - bad boys always get the *girl * - the girl that is chasing after validation and trying to desperately make the man see in her what she desperately wants to see in herself. This girl will put up with said "bad" boy because she has low self-esteem and thinks if he's not fully committed to her it must be because she needs to kick it into gear and make herself seem/be more appealing. She'll make excuses for the bad boy, ignore red flags and get upset when she can't understand why she's attracted to this guy. Yes - bad boys do seem to get this kind of girl. Enjoy her. The problem with this statement is that the overwhelming majority of the girls/women have low self-esteem to varying degrees, which explains why most of them date no-good guys, sleazeballs, and badboys. Also, like my older buddy had repeated to me many times: "Women are weak for charm, no matter what's behind the facade." I guess there's plenty of truth to it, given his many years of experience with you ladies.
somedude81 Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 Robert did a lot of good in the world but also was repeatedly in trouble with the law, notably for assaulting his promoter in the late 70's, and had a relatively 'colorful' life with women whilst married for 38 years. Boundaries were made to be tested by him. Quintessential bad boy in the 'good' sense of the word, IMO. The 'fun' was in the excitement, the adrenalin, he generated. If you've ever gone upside down on a roller coaster or bungie jumped from a bridge, it's that 'feeling' which some women equate with 'fun' with a bad boy. Oh, my, God. At least the bike didn't land on him. As for the "fun" they provide, it sounds exhausting. For some reason I'm just not seeing that nice = boring.
ascendotum Posted June 5, 2011 Posted June 5, 2011 Yes - bad boys always get the *girl * - the girl that is chasing after validation and trying to desperately make the man see in her what she desperately wants to see in herself. This girl will put up with said "bad" boy because she has low self-esteem and thinks if he's not fully committed to her it must be because she needs to kick it into gear and make herself seem/be more appealing. She'll make excuses for the bad boy, ignore red flags and get upset when she can't understand why she's attracted to this guy. Yes - bad boys do seem to get this kind of girl. Enjoy her. Nice post. Enjoying that sort of girl is great in your 20s, but not so ideal when they're financially struggling single mothers on ADs in their 30s having exclusively having relationships with these guys. I wonder how much of a snowball effect ‘bad boy’ behaviour has had over the past 30 years when it comes to the dating scene. Personally I think it has contributed to more guys having a player mentality, being more disrespectful of women and viewing relationships as more disposable. In one of the groups of people I used to hang out with there were 2 very good looking (and intelligent) guys who used to score with different women every week. It was so easy, they used to test women out by being totally full of themselves jerks. They used to score beautiful women and then tell the guys how they gave the sluts the rough treatment in bed, and these women would get misty eyed when they told them they weren’t interested in seeing them as a gf. I am sure many guys know guys like this out there and it has an effect where other guys see bad behaviour rewarded. Some guys incorporate the positive elements from the ‘bad boy’ persona into their dating life, but others don’t discern the positive from the negative and if things improve for the guy, its a case of this is what you want this is what you get. As women get older & relationship wiser it doesn’t work. That's funny since bad boys tend to stress women out quite a bit. Yeah but as many posts on LS have commented there are many women out there who love the drama & excitement that go along with the bad boys, though the negatives start to overcome this aspect as women get to their late 20s. True, bad boy gets the girl but then loses her quick because he disrespects her. Agreed, though sometimes not so quickly, if he's hot looking or a demon in the sack, then the red flags will fly over the girl's head for a fair few years. I know it frustrated myself & other friends when we have seen smart gorgeous women put up with shoddy behaviour and bend over backwards & forwards to please the 'bad boy' for quite a few years before they wake up and realise they are not a priority in his life. When it comes to bad behaviour resulting in losing the girl, these guys won’t lose much sleep over it..it just means they will be having sex next week with another sexy girl. Bad boys get the girls you want? Yes, there is an element of this with 'mild mannered' guys. I have found that bad boys' tend to get the more sexually overt & attractive women. If they weren’t then it would be less of an issue for guys. I remember some guy posting here how he has noticed it tends to be the less educated girls who go for the 'bay boy' type. I agree with this, however if the 'bad boy' type is smart and makes good $ then it, the appeal is just the same, going on a few guys I know, who do really well with young career women, and these women certainly never came across as having low self esteem.
Lilmisus Posted June 5, 2011 Posted June 5, 2011 "Nice guys finish last, that's why I'll treat you like trash, it's not what I really want to do. But... you only date bad guys, so I'll give it my best try to treat you the way you want me to." God, I've had that song stuck in my head all day I've said this before: it is true, for many younger girls who have yet to mature enough to realize that they should and need to be treated kindly. Personally - I like to have more fun, and I like to have a bit of suspense wondering "does he like me..?" at least in the beginning. Guys who are all over me, constantly asking questions and trying to do "the right thing" just seem too desperate and boring to me, so I ignore them. Plus..it gets annoying after a while. Make me think that any girl can have you, and that I'm "lucky" to have you with me (when..in fact you're the lucky one ), and you'll have more of a shot with me..and probably many other girls. I don't want a "bad" guy, I just want a guy who's more fun to be around and not just a bore or easy to overlook.
carhill Posted June 5, 2011 Posted June 5, 2011 (edited) For some reason I'm just not seeing that nice = boring. Or even good, or even stable, but, yeah, for those adrenalin junkies, it is oh so boring, like a flat line in a coma ward. Who really cares? Combined with that adrenaline is the challenge of bending the bad boy to her will. Sex him enough, titillate him enough, garner his attention sufficiently, and he just might, maybe on death's door, say 'yeah, baby, you got me'. Smile. Life is complete Edited to add that, when I was pissed off at my exW in our M and pretty mean (and gave off that "fµck you" vibe) to women in general, I had MW's all over me. I hated who I became and won't go back to it again, but the reality was unmistakable. Edited June 5, 2011 by carhill
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