FrostFire Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 Until that moment comes when an officer tells me to stop then I will continue my behavior.
Banker Chick Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 I wonder how you'd feel about this if you had a daughter that decided to exercise her "rights" with her boyfriend in your presence. You may say now you'll feel the same way but I seriously doubt it.
FrostFire Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) No problem with it because my family doesn't care nor does her family. In fact, I thought they did but they pleasantly surprised me by saying you can kiss her you know. So now I do. I got no problem with that whatsoever and would encourage it. Sanskrit here's the definition of lewd conduct: http://www.criminal-law-lawyer-source.com/terms/lewd.html "Lewd conduct is any unlawful act committed by an individual with the purpose of arousing the libido or sexual interest of themselves or the person towards which this action is directed. Lewd conduct criminal offences typically involve pornography, prostitution, or indecent exposure offenses. Lewd behavior, also called lewd and lascivious conduct, is considered a crime by the federal government and all fifty states, though the definition and consequences of lewd conduct can vary by jurisdiction." The chance that I will be told to stop by a cop by sticking my tongue down my girlfriend's throat are very slim. In this case because I have done the very thing on the metrolink train with plenty of sheriff's and conductors on board. I am not exposing nor stimulating the genitals in any way. I might be stimulating the sexual interest but you're reading way to far into this because that's how you're wanting to read. Fact is nothing is being exposed. No genitals are being touched or exposed. It's a win. Try and tell me differently and you have no case. Nice try... but we aren't talking about indecent exposure nor are we talking about groping each others special places unless the neck has been added to the indecent exposure list. :laugh: To put this topic at rest. If I am told by a peace officer to stop I will gladly oblige. I won't question their authority as it's no big deal in the end. If someone that isn't a peace officer told me to stop then I wouldn't. We on the same page now? Good. Thanks for understanding or not understanding me. Edited June 2, 2011 by FrostFire
FrostFire Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indecent_exposure Again we aren't talking about exposing a breast, nipple, butt, etc... We're talking about couples making noises, sticking tongues down each others throats, light fondling and groping. It's not indecent exposure and it does not qualify as such. It's almost on the verge of it but it's not. It's why you see them doing it. See you think it's wrong but in actuality it's like that fine clause just before it's wrong. Ask a cop. Call your local sheriff's station like I just did. It's not a sexual act until certain areas of the clothes are removed. Edited June 2, 2011 by FrostFire
Author vsmini Posted June 2, 2011 Author Posted June 2, 2011 Did I have the attitudes of taking offense towards PDA. I sure did until I tried it. Now I love it. So now you're admitting the same opinions you were mocking also happen to be the exact same opinions you shared at one point (???) You didn't even start off with an "I can understand this" and going on to make your point but started off shouting from your soapbox and acting like you didn't have the faintest clue why anyone would take offense or have a problem with it....yet you used to? Ok.
Author vsmini Posted June 2, 2011 Author Posted June 2, 2011 Will just assume you stopped there, as the rest of it didn't make much sense. Vsmini, I read a great book back in the day that I think you might enjoy, long out of print, but used copies are available on Amazon. Written by the guy who invented "MadLibs" of all things. http://www.amazon.com/Great-Roob-Revolution/dp/B000LCJSLO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1307051706&sr=8-1 Aww Sanskrit - I remember our first fight....now look at us. Thanks for the book recommendation - I'm a sucker for good book nods. Amazon only has a couple copies and there isn't much info on it on the web. I'll look into it.
Author vsmini Posted June 2, 2011 Author Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) And Frost - based on previous posts of yours in this thread I can see what your next jab might be: "well I'm not whining about it like VSmini and letting it destroy my life - I would just ignore it" I'm not putting up posters or trying to change the law. It's an online community where I asked opinions and I'm getting them. No harm. Keep in mind I'm also letting these people that are humping each other right next to me keep on doing what they are doing. I'm not tapping them on the shoulder and telling them to stop. I'm not keeping them from exercising their freedom to grind, lick and suck each other in public. Ease up fool. Edited June 3, 2011 by vsmini
Feelin Frisky Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 I'm a very reserved individual and don't like engaing in "heavy" PDAs. When I met my ex in night college which was at Pace Universary in NYC just above the finacial district near Brooklyn Bridge I had to disuade her from running up to me and gunning her tongue into my gob. I was GQ all the way and it just didn't seem classy at all. I love holding hands, walking arm in arm and sharing a kiss upon meeting and parting but beyond that I'd like to keep it to private.
FrostFire Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 So now you're admitting the same opinions you were mocking also happen to be the exact same opinions you shared at one point (???) You didn't even start off with an "I can understand this" and going on to make your point but started off shouting from your soapbox and acting like you didn't have the faintest clue why anyone would take offense or have a problem with it....yet you used to? Ok. Nothing to acknowledge accept it's not as bad as you're making it out to be. I don't need to acknowledge that I understand this because now I don't. I don't understand what the big deal is anymore. So now you're expecting me to acknowledge something? What other expectations do you have?? I don't even know you and you're setting expectations on me???:p Anyways back on topic, PDA is harmless you're not getting raped. It's not hurting you (only your eyes). It's not against the law and never will be. It does not qualify as I have learned under indecent exposure or lewd conduct in any way. Your choices: 1) Report us to the proper authorities (they won't come) 2) Ignore Us 3) Embrace Us 4) Fight us by pouring water on our heads? Anyways, it's not a big deal. Until people are asked to stop by the proper authorities will us PDA's ever stop. The end:cool:
FrostFire Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 I'm not putting up posters or trying to change the law. It's an online community where I asked opinions and I'm getting them. No harm. Keep in mind I'm also letting these people that are humping each other right next to me keep on doing what they are doing. I'm not tapping them on the shoulder and telling them to stop. I'm not keeping them from exercising their freedom to grind, lick and suck each other in public. Ease up fool. Such hostility. Guess I deserved that one. Where's the water??? You can soak me with your garden hose or super soaker.:rolleyes: I'm giving you my opinion. My opinion is not your opinion and it's an opinion you don't agree with because it's coming from the side that disgusts you. Which is fine I get it. It bothers you. Ok... What I don't understand is why you come here whining all about it on your high horse and then ridicule people that don't agree with your "thinking." We're not here to judge one another. That's what the judges are for. Until then we can politely go our respective ways and agree to disagree. Thanks for the stimulating debate vsimini I haven't had one of those in awhile.
alexlakeman Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 PDA is awesome... So much so, my ex wife hated me b/c I was an "octopus" b/c I was always into pda... PDA - with conditions, there's a time and a place for everything
denise_xo Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 I'm a very reserved individual and don't like engaing in "heavy" PDAs. When I met my ex in night college which was at Pace Universary in NYC just above the finacial district near Brooklyn Bridge I had to disuade her from running up to me and gunning her tongue into my gob. I was GQ all the way and it just didn't seem classy at all. I love holding hands, walking arm in arm and sharing a kiss upon meeting and parting but beyond that I'd like to keep it to private. This is exactly how I feel about it, too. I get a bit grossed out when people start getting heavy into it with tongues etc in public. I won't tell them they shouldn't do it, but it's not something I appreciate.
Eternal Sunshine Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 Me and bf do PDA all the time. At 7am at the train stations, on the streets, in the parks, on the beach. I am talking full on make-outs. We don't take clothes off though. I love it and see no problem with it. I would only be embarrassed if people that know me saw us.
tb24 Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 Me and my girlfriend make out in public all the time... mostly in bars/clubs but occasionally wherever we are. She usually initiates it though. I don't really see anything wrong with it. Though I wouldn't miss it too much if it wasn't there but it's quite nice not worrying about what everyone around thinks I don't see it as anything to be embarrassed about. Question: is it more acceptable in some times/places than others? For instance, my gf is getting on the train home. I kiss her goodbye. Is this less offensive than just generally making out for the sake of it?
Author vsmini Posted June 3, 2011 Author Posted June 3, 2011 (edited) Question: is it more acceptable in some times/places than others? For instance, my gf is getting on the train home. I kiss her goodbye. Is this less offensive than just generally making out for the sake of it? I think the problem is people are using the word offended - I don't think anyone on here (so far) is truly offended by this. I've never taken it personally. I just find it very irritating. I think that's a better way to describe it. For me personally, yes. I only get irritated when it's a crowded subway car or I'm in a situation where I can't easily move (in middle of restaurant) away from it. I'm talking about full-on makeout sessions where someone is right next to me and I can hear the sounds of them moaning and licking each other over the sound of my ipod/conversation - that's when it borders on being rude. I certainly have the right to be an annoying twat on the train, screaming into my cell phone at my boyfriend and bugging the absolute sh*t out of everyone around me - but I don't...and I'm thankful that I have the capability to at least empathize with other people and understand how that could be irritating to those around me. And my question to ES - why would you be embarrassed if you don't think there's anything wrong with it? regardless of if you knew the people around you or not? Edited June 3, 2011 by vsmini
Eternal Sunshine Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 I should amend that, I don't worry about friends seeing us. But say, if my parents, relatives or co-workers saw me - I would be embarrassed. I think it's because I don't want to project sexual image to them. I don't want them associating making out and me. Me and bf do get yelled "get a room!" and were kicked out of a bar once. It makes us stop in that moment but we just carry on later I did date someone who hated PDA and it REALLY bothered me.
denisss Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 I did once, on a first date, in a bar, almost all night. We were both a bit drunk. Suffice to say it was fun but I don't think I'd make a habit of it. And also suffice to say that relationship did not blossom into anything magical.
Stung Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 I've done it before, in bars or clubs when I was young and had had too much to drink. I never made a regular habit of it, as I think most of us can agree it's kind of tacky. There have been a couple of times when my husband and I finally got out for a date night with no kids after months of barely getting any alone time when we got wrapped up in our own little bubble world out in public, but even then we're not talking guttural moans and throat-spelunking, and there's never any danger of conceiving another one where everybody can see. I never get particularly bothered watching people kiss or even make out in public, but I would point them out to my stepdaughter as being kind of rude and tacky. I'm sure they've having a good time and that's cool, and I understand the little extra exhibitionistic thrill some of them are getting, but I also sympathize with people who don't want to be made an unwilling part of their exhibitionist thrill, and resent being pulled into their sexual vibe. If they were invading my personal space with it, I would say something and have felt free to assert myself that way before. It's a free country, but that includes my freedoms and rights, too, like the right to not have to put up with people getting off on invading my space just because they're self-absorbed twats. The main thing that would bother me about that scenario is the attitude exemplified by one poster here, the "I do what I want, eff my grandma" thing. It's not about laws or freedoms IMO, I just think that's a lame attitude to have and one of the things that's wrong with society in general--if you're trying to be part of a society where people have to work together you should have some level of respect for other people. I am equally annoyed by the other types mentioned in this thread, who don't even try to reign in their misbehaving kids or who babble on their cell phones during movies, etc. I have a toddler and I understand how tiring they can be and that sometimes there's only so much you can do, but that doesn't absolve you from doing what you can...it's a responsibility to the kid, too, to teach them consistently.
Star Gazer Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 Full-on making out? I've been guilty, and it had never bothered me before until a few weeks ago. We were walking along the street and had stopped in a little alcove/entrance of a small shop, not even underneath street lights, and were really going at it when I heard from across the street "Get a room!" in a really annoyed, aggressive voice. It was like the first time I'd ever heard someone say something like that to me, and it shocked and embarrassed me. I'm all about kissing (even extended kissing) and nuzzling/cuddling in public, but not like full-on making out, like long sessions of tongue-action and groping, etc. There's something...immature, about it. It also depends on how crowded the public place is. A quiet park or beach? Heavier PDA. In the middle of a Giants game? Less PDA. Also, the more I've had to drink and the later at night it is... I might just forego my new "no heavy PDA" rule.
Pianiste Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 I used to be very against it, especially if it involved sound. But after working in the airline branch for a couple of years I got more and more used to it. Whenever I saw a passionate goodbye/hello near me in the beginning it used to make me feel as if all of a sudden I wasn't in public anymore but in somebodies private space. It is still a bit uncomfortable when it gets too raunchy though, but I guess there is a limit to everything. Nowadays I find a bit of non-raunchy PDA rather heartwarming.
Feelin Frisky Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 I started seeing someone who would get on the subway train I was taking every day. She started asking me to kiss her on the nose every time we met. It was the stupidest thing and became among the reasons I had to jettison her. Who kisses people on the nose? (Not that I wanted to kiss her elsewhere. A peck hello and good-bye is sufficient for subway.)
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