End of my rope Posted April 14, 2004 Posted April 14, 2004 A co-worker and his fiance recently miscarried a child. My heart goes out to them, but it started my mind to asking, "What happens to babies when they die?" I know that if you don't believe in God or sometype of higher being you're gonna say nothing, they cease to exist. However, if you do believe in God, or a higher being, what do you think happens to them? And I guess by them I mean their souls. And I do believe they have souls. I mean, it's not like a soul magically appears inside a baby as it travels down the birth canal. So if they die before being born does God give them another chance later, kinda throw them back into the mix, or does he say to them "Nope, you've had your chance, you didn't make it. Welcome to eternity." And if that's the case, who changes their diapers in heaven? Or do they become children for eternity? I'm very intersted in your opinions.
Arabess Posted April 15, 2004 Posted April 15, 2004 I personally believe their souls return to God. Is there a baby nursery in heaven? I have no idea. I look at your body like your 'earth suit'. They would have a 'glorified body' in heaven. Since we lack in totally understanding the concept of 'soul'....much like a caveman would have a problem understanding the concept of the 'microwave'....I guess there are certain areas we cannot comprehend....therefore, have to trust God and believe the best. Again, this is my PERSONAL opinion. Losing a child is very difficult for all concerned. I am truly sorry for your co-worker and her fiance.
faux Posted April 15, 2004 Posted April 15, 2004 I know that if you don't believe in God or sometype of higher being you're gonna say nothing, they cease to exist. However, if you do believe in God, or a higher being, what do you think happens to them? I do not know if I can call what I believe in God. I believe that when we die we become nothing. I believe that nothing is a state of ultimate perfection that we as humans are incapable of comprehending. Certainly, then, babies would return to perfection when they die. In some ways, I suppose my beliefs are similar to a Heaven, only less romantic at times. I would think that all things go to the same "place" when they die, however. Oddly enough, those we love never have a greater presence in our lives than when they die. It seems that when people have passed on, they live in us more than ever before, never to be taken away again.
UCFKevin Posted April 15, 2004 Posted April 15, 2004 Reincarnation, I'd gather. Give the little guy/girl another shot. Probably happens with abortion, too.
dolphinsunshyn Posted April 15, 2004 Posted April 15, 2004 I think when we come here to earth we are given a "life plan". There are events in our lives that a supposed to happen. We are supposed to learn from such events, therefore, raising our level of conscienceness and spitituality. The babies that are miscarried or children who die come into this world knowing that they are only here as part of his/her parent's "life plan" and that their death is supposed to allow the parents to learn and grow from the experience. Aborted babies serve the same pupose, but they also learn from the experience and feel a sense of rejection and loss. I feel that our spirits come here to learn. Earth is like a "university" to us. We pick other spirits to guide us and the people we know on earth we also know in "heaven". They all volunteer to be a part of our "life plan" and we do so for them also. Kind of like picking what classes you want to take at the university. We are supposed to learn something from everyone we meet and/or form relationships with. We can come and go as often as we please and each time we gain a higher "rank" or sense of conscieneness. I know it sounds crazy, but it what I believe. I think the universe is too complexed and too vast to just be what we can see in front of us. Who knows? I guess we'll find out when we die. I'm sorry to hear about the miscarriage. I'll say a prayer for them tonight.
dyermaker Posted April 16, 2004 Posted April 16, 2004 Your soul never changes, ever. The soul you had upon your conception is the same you have at age ninety, if you're (un)lucky enough to live that long. No soul is without enough grace to make it to heaven, and babies don't have the will or intellect to form a conscience. Therefore, they have never disobeyed God, and don't have enough knowledge to either accept or reject it. I firmly believe that infants are saved by the Grace of God alone, straight to heaven, never seperated from God.
yes Posted April 16, 2004 Posted April 16, 2004 i like the idea of reincarnation. i like believing that something of me (karma, soul, whatever) will be transfered to another being - animal or human. so i imagine the same thing happens to babies - the body is just gone, but SMTH of them is transfered right over. -yes
Arabess Posted April 16, 2004 Posted April 16, 2004 Originally posted by dyermaker Your soul never changes, ever. The soul you had upon your conception is the same you have at age ninety, if you're (un)lucky enough to live that long. No soul is without enough grace to make it to heaven, and babies don't have the will or intellect to form a conscience. Therefore, they have never disobeyed God, and don't have enough knowledge to either accept or reject it. I firmly believe that infants are saved by the Grace of God alone, straight to heaven, never seperated from God. I would never take it upon myself to say what someone else believes is wrong....because it's a deeply personal thing. But I totally agree with you on the way WE believe.
Darkangelism Posted April 16, 2004 Posted April 16, 2004 Originally posted by UCFKevin Reincarnation, I'd gather. Give the little guy/girl another shot. Probably happens with abortion, too. i like that idea.
echocrush Posted April 16, 2004 Posted April 16, 2004 I miscarried before I had my oldest, I was 17 that first time, and even at 21 being a parent wasn't easy... I wasn't ready at that point in my life to raise that child I know that. Still, I felt like nothing would fill that void in my life... Not until my oldest was born, the minute I looked into her eyes I knew I had been given a second chance... The funny thing is I was brought up to believe that souls don't come back, that they go to heaven and wait there for you or whatever. But I still feel like that child I had lost 5 years before had come home... I haven't mourned that first child since.
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