Finally, things are not stagnant...

[fishtaco]

3 months since Violet and I parted ways. Not much happened. I hit a rut. Things just would not work out no matter what I tried. But finally looks like things are starting to move. I don't even care which way, I just want more development and move forward.

 

Young Girl - She's the one where her boyfriend is sleeping around that I posted about. TBF and other LS people advised me to leave her alone, I wanted to throw something in there and see what happens, and I did. I hit up on her, got her number, called, asked her out on a date. She said yes at first, but then she was dragging her feet about it. So like I said I would do - minimal effort only. I didn't push her, and unsurprisingly nothing happened. I've lost interest, and she's now out. Which is probably a good thing anyway. I haven't told her she's out, but I will when I talk to her next. I wonder how she'll react.

 

Material Girl - one of my primary targets. She is quite an attractive lady. Probably the most physically attractive out of all the women I plan on hitting up on. She had her bitch shield on, not friendly at all, probably to fend off all the douchebags. But she missed one - me. I managed to crack her shield. I got her number, called her today, got voice mail. She did call me back about an hour later, but I was at the gym so I missed her call. But that's a good sign, she actually returned my call. I txted to say hey I was at the gym & missed your call, and I'll try again tomorrow. It was late, I didn't want to call.

 

Shakira - she looks like Shakira, from far away. Up close you can tell the differences in facial features. She wasn't even on my radar anymore, because she disappeared for a long time. But she certainly deserves a spot on my primary list. Look wise she loses to Material Girl, just by a tiny bit. But after running into her at a party this weekend, and having some excellent conversation, I was thoroughly impressed. She seems to have more going upstairs than Material Girl. Well, that too, but I meant upstairs-upstairs; the penthouse. Material Girl is just a typical good looking lady. Shakira, on the other hand, is good looking AND intriguing. Now I'm REALLY interested in her. But I played my game wrong. I was too "cool". I didn't make the move in time and she ended up leaving the party early. Just as I was kicking myself, and trying to figure out how I can reconnect with her, she found me on facebook and added me. Normally I don't like to be connected to the women I'm interested in romantically on facebook. Facebook drama is not fun. But in this case, I have to say "thank you lord!" and do a fist pump, and I'm not even religious.

 

Sandwich Girl - I've been trying to "run into" her while she works at the local sandwich place. Well she was there today. I decided to talk to the guy that works there, who is becoming my friend, to get some inside information.

 

"Hey what's her name? That girl you're working with?"

"Her name is Sandwich Girl"

"She's cute, is she single?"

"She's my wife"

 

Doh! So I made a recovery, patted him on the back, and gave him the "oh you lucky bastard" thing. And after some secret tequlia shots in the parking lot (he was supposed to be working), everything is good, except now she is off limits. I'm only a douche out of necessity, I don't go that far. At least I got double meat on my sandwich. No sexual innuendos there, you pervs.

 

Raven - she's the last one on my primary list. But I didn't see her this weekend at mutual friends parties. She kept me out last time. Unlike Material Girl, she doesn't do the bitch shield, but she has a shield on with me anyway. Haven't been able to crack it. Ironically, because Material Girl is typical, and she handled her situation with the typical bitch shield, I knew how to deal with her. Raven, she's... well, too un-cliche. Which is a plus and I think says a lot about her personality. But then because of that, I don't know how to crack her shield. Douchebag methods don't work on classy ladies. Not that Material Girl isn't classy, she's just, like I mentioned, an average girl, but with looks that kill. I may have to actually just be myself with Raven... *GASP*. Probably my best bet. So as of now, I consider this low probability.

 

Still nothing solid has happened. I have yet to go on a first date. But, hey, at least things are moving.

Edited June 1, 2011 by fishtaco

[utterer of lies]

Still nothing solid has happened. I have yet to go on a first date. But, hey, at least things are moving.

 

Good luck!

[fishtaco]

Good luck!

 

Thanks. I hope I've toughed it out, and things will go my way for awhile.

[daphne]

Do you really find it difficult to be successful with these girls if you are yourself or is it something you're trying out now? Are they mostly club girls? Are you discerning quickly which are non gamers and which respond better to aloofness? I think that may be key (the girl who left early.) I would think you'd want to up your chances by pursuing the non gamers to begin with. If you want a relationship, they'll be easier to get along with and less drama. What age range are you looking at?

[fishtaco]

Do you really find it difficult to be successful with these girls if you are yourself or is it something you're trying out now? Are they mostly club girls? Are you discerning quickly which are non gamers and which respond better to aloofness? I think that may be key (the girl who left early.) I would think you'd want to up your chances by pursuing the non gamers to begin with. If you want a relationship, they'll be easier to get along with and less drama. What age range are you looking at?

 

LOL you dug up my post from yesterday.

 

Update, Material Girl called me up this afternoon, we're going on a date tonight. Although I didn't do my "formal asking", because well I was at work and didn't expect it. I'm not a natural, so sometimes I don't respond to unexpected situations the right way. Like Shakira... totally did not expect her to be so friendly and impressive at the party. So I still have to verify Material Girl's motives. I want to make sure it's a date-date and not a friend-date.

 

I hit on women of all ages, and all over the place. Just in my list, there were clubs/bars, friend's friends (at parties), and random and unfortunately married chick at local sandwich shop. Young Girl is 24, Material Girl is 40... which makes her good looks even more impressive - she is the most attractive one out of the whole list. Sandwich Girl, no idea, but she looks to be in her early 20's as well. Raven, I'd guess early 40's, older than me. Shakira, my guess is mid 30's.

 

I tend to date for a long time before I commit to an exclusive relationship. I use that period to gauge their tendency for drama. The ones with drama tend to drop off within a month or so anyway, usually less. And since I multidate, it's not time lost.

 

So the only thing I do differently for gamers vs non gamers is that I apply games toward gamers and be straight forward with the non gamers. If Material Girl didn't have her bitch shield on, I wouldn't need to break it with my pseudo alpha strategy. My "be myself" comment was kind of in a way poking fun at myself. Because I have no strategy to get Raven to go on a date with me. I can only chat and see if I get a green light.

[daphne]

Material girl has probably seen it all. I'm guessing she has enough experience to be less gamey. She probably knows it's a date. Plus, honestly, as an attractive woman she probably gets more duds than decent guys so her dance card may not be as full as you think. She seems to be consistent at this early stage if she's calling you back and responsive.

 

Also, Shakira contacting you on fb may not be a great sign but see where it goes. Generally when a female feels good enough to pursue contact with you, she likes you as a friend and is comfortable. Otherwise, most of us aren't wired to pursue guys we're into. Except when our friends tell us this is the 21st century so just do it and then we get burned and we retreat back in our turtle shells.

 

You do a great job of getting out and meeting people in different venues. You're better at it than I am! Have fun tonight. Don't do anything I wouldn't do.

[fishtaco]

Material girl has probably seen it all. I'm guessing she has enough experience to be less gamey. She probably knows it's a date. Plus, honestly, as an attractive woman she probably gets more duds than decent guys so her dance card may not be as full as you think. She seems to be consistent at this early stage if she's calling you back and responsive.

 

Well, gamey women know it's a date, but would play in the ambiguous zone to get what they want. Young inexperienced girls are the only ones that I would believe could do the "she didn't realize it".

 

So I know she knows my intentions. But how is she going to play it? Is it a real date or is she just using me for entertainment + free meal? I don't know. I have to find out.

 

But so far, I haven't seen anything bad. You are right, she has been consistent, that's a good sign.

 

Also, Shakira contacting you on fb may not be a great sign but see where it goes. Generally when a female feels good enough to pursue contact with you, she likes you as a friend and is comfortable. Otherwise, most of us aren't wired to pursue guys we're into. Except when our friends tell us this is the 21st century so just do it and then we get burned and we retreat back in our turtle shells.

 

My main concern is I need an opportunity to meet up with her repeatedly, then I can figure out my next steps. Even if she's not interested, at this early in the stage, I haven't been friendzoned (no friendship to speak of), so I still have some wiggle room.

 

But you are correct, FB is not the best choice for that... too uncontrolled.

 

You do a great job of getting out and meeting people in different venues. You're better at it than I am! Have fun tonight. Don't do anything I wouldn't do.

 

Thanks! Most of these happened this weekend too. I've had a pretty stagnant 3 months.

[daphne]

The ambiguous zone is really the ambivalent zone. It's a way of being non committal, in the event that you end up not liking the guy as much as you thought.

 

You'll have to see. I'm surprised you're not on the date right now. I guess tonight is tomorrow night.

 

When months turns into years, then you can complain. Don't get me started.

[fishtaco]

Sounds like things are going great for you, with several prospects. Congrats!

 

Thanks. I need to find more though. Prospects have a tendency to vanish.

 

You'll have to see. I'm surprised you're not on the date right now. I guess tonight is tomorrow night.

 

West coast timezone. I did go on a date with Material Girl last night. I made sure clearly, that it was a date date, and not a let's hang out. I tend to take the sledgehammer approach, because I rather have her walk away than to go on a date under false pretenses.

 

I would rank my performance at 90%. I did fairly well, but she was the one that filled in the gaps most of the time. But once she picked the next topic, then I would flow with it. In my defense, I have a hard time driving and being an entertaining conversationalist at the same time. Given a topic, I can roll with it, but I need concentration to think up new topics during "silence". I'm not a mulitasker. But when I was rolling with it, I was entertaining, and charming. Made her laugh, made her blush, made her go OMG I can't believe you said that, all the good stuff, and made her promise she owes me a kiss.

 

I took the slow approach because she was VERY uncomfortable. And she told me she believes in being friends first before dating. That is not compatible with how I date. So I figure I'm going to make her date my way, but take it easy, because I rather walk away than date her way. By the end of the date I could tell she was much more comfortable with me, the next date, should be a lot more smoother, and now I have a fun way to get her to kiss me. I may even "collect with interest", and all that good stuff.

 

However, I saw some things I like, and some things I don't like. I call her Material Girl because based on my information gathering before I even hit up on her, she seems to only date older men, and she gets excited if they have material wealth. Turned out she's not a gold digger (I don't appeal to them anyway), she even looked at me for approval before adding the optional chicken breast on her dish which costs extra. But, she is a single mom in financial hardship, because her kids' dad passed away several years ago, and no more child support. So it's good that she doesn't appear to be a gold digger, but it's not good that we know where her priorities are anyway.

 

I also found out she lied about her age, she's 43, not 40, but she told this to some random guy with no tact the other night (she's insecure about her age, but that's common), and I happened to be there, so I just stuck with that number. She did come clean later when I was looking up "Chinese Zodiac love compatibility" between us, and she was very apologetic about it. I didn't think it was a big deal. Then she said she doesn't date younger men, ironically while she was on a date with a younger man. But I have fairly high confidence level I can change her attitude. I'm not sure if I want to take on her financial issues though. I can handle college tuition for two boys, but I don't know if I want to. We'll see.

[daphne]

Sorry I'm remiss in responding. I have found that coupling up requires lots of together time and very little time to oneself. Oy.

 

So what happened? Have you gone on another date? Sounds like there were some pros and cons.

 

For the record, I too prefer taking things slowly to get to know a guy because I want to know what I'm getting into. Too many flaky, horney guys want to rush things and sweep you off your feet and they're full of @$!#@. I personally don't want the drama involved in that kind of short lived thing.

[fishtaco]

Sorry I'm remiss in responding. I have found that coupling up requires lots of together time and very little time to oneself. Oy.

 

So what happened? Have you gone on another date? Sounds like there were some pros and cons.

 

For the record, I too prefer taking things slowly to get to know a guy because I want to know what I'm getting into. Too many flaky, horney guys want to rush things and sweep you off your feet and they're full of @$!#@. I personally don't want the drama involved in that kind of short lived thing.

 

Haha, all good. I didn't think anyone would be interested. So thank you, appreciate it.

 

I shouldn't call her Material Girl now, I know her better now, and what I think of her has changed, in a positive way regarding being "Materialistic". Other areas remain to be seen. So I'll call her "Performer Girl", because she loves to perform (dancing).

 

I did get her to kiss me, calling out her promise. In fact our first kiss was a long lingering kiss under the rain, it was quite romantic. But after that she put on the brakes. So now I'm confused. Maybe she wants to take it slow but didn't do it right, maybe she has other plans for me, I have no idea. But tonight will be the forth time we see each other in the past week and a half. So she does seem to want to spend time with me. But what throws me off is she prefer to think of us as "friends". As far as I'm concerned, friends don't make out. So I told her if we're just friends then I'm going to go date someone else. But she doesn't want that either. And she said I'm making it too complicated. So we'll see what happens. As of now I still need to find out what her real motive is.

 

But sorry, that's just my style, I don't f--k around. If she's on board, let's go. If not, I can always generate other options. In fact, I'm working Shakira via facebook. No flirting yet, just building familiarity.

 

But I'll give Performer Girl first dibs for now, because I do like her, so far. But if she makes the wrong move, I'm out, and I'll be after Shakira, and a new one... I'll call her "White Lace".

 

Ok, I'm going to go call Performer Girl now. Time for the date tonight.

[daphne]

Dude,

 

I don't kiss my guy friends. So she clearly is romantically interested. She just doesn't want to rush things, from what you're saying. I just want things to go sloooowwwwly. Plus, she's seen you 4 times already. Who has time to see someone that much that they're not excited to hang out with?

 

Maybe just give her the benefit of the doubt and be patient. She hasn't given you a reason to think she's a flake or not interested in pursuing something. But she probably wants to see what kind of person you are, and if she sees things happening long term, before she becomes intimate. Women get attached.

 

It made me giggle that you suggested you see other people if you were just friends and she doesn't like that idea. That's kind of your clue right there. Some women do just like to be courted. Crazy!

 

Have fun tonight.

[TuffCookieX]

You sound like the male version of me... I either have an option of 5 guys or NONE. I don't understand why I never have a crush one at a time, it's always too much or none at all. I'm stagnant now but hoping things will change soon with summer coming up.

 

Good luck on your endeavors, keep them girls guessing.

 

And as for the facebooking, girls just wanna see what you're all about, no intentions of starting drama.

[fishtaco]

Haha, she's late. Probably doing her makeup or something.

 

Dude,

 

I don't kiss my guy friends. So she clearly is romantically interested. She just doesn't want to rush things, from what you're saying. I just want things to go sloooowwwwly. Plus, she's seen you 4 times already. Who has time to see someone that much that they're not excited to hang out with?

 

Maybe just give her the benefit of the doubt and be patient. She hasn't given you a reason to think she's a flake or not interested in pursuing something. But she probably wants to see what kind of person you are, and if she sees things happening long term, before she becomes intimate. Women get attached.

 

It made me giggle that you suggested you see other people if you were just friends and she doesn't like that idea. That's kind of your clue right there. Some women do just like to be courted. Crazy!

 

Have fun tonight.

 

I'm not pushing for intimacy either, I already know she wants to move slow. But my slow is not "being friends". My slow is we have to act like we're dating, because, well, we are. Then I'm willing to hold at the "we're dating" until further development happens. But anyway, we'll see.

 

I, like many other men and women, have been burned in the past. So there is always an element of distrust at this point. I have to keep my eyes open and be ready. She's cautious by moving slow, I'm cautious by not jumping to conclusions about her motives.

 

But thanks for the prep talk, that made me feel a bit better. Although I'm sure we all know never say never.

 

You sound like the male version of me... I either have an option of 5 guys or NONE. I don't understand why I never have a crush one at a time, it's always too much or none at all. I'm stagnant now but hoping things will change soon with summer coming up.

 

Good luck on your endeavors, keep them girls guessing.

 

And as for the facebooking, girls just wanna see what you're all about, no intentions of starting drama.

 

Thanks.

 

That's kind of how it goes. Nothing, or too much happening. Always. Hence I'm a proponent of multidating, for both men and women. So you can take advantage of the "rainy" season. Although right now I haven't decided if I want to do that. Shakira at this point is just friendly chatting.

 

Yeah, I know about facebooking, it may not be her intention, but it's MY intention to start something. Or at least have the option to, should things with Performer Girl go south. I'm not an online guy, I'm not going to be able to get anything significant going via facebook, but I will be able to build familiarity, and next time I see Shakira, we'll at least have more topics to converse about. The game is then, when I'm face to face with her, it's not played out on facebook.

[fishtaco]

So Material Girl and I have seen each other a couple of more times since last post. I'm going to move her name back to Material Girl. It seems more fitting now that I know her better. I think I had a case of wishful thinking.

 

Things are progressing alright. In fact, it is my estimation from the little clues I've seen, that she's ready for sex. I may go for it this weekend.

 

So far I've been acting like a good guy, against my own advice. This weekend some random chick came up to me at last call and wanted ONS. Even though she wasn't all that attractive, it was no effort sex. I turned her down, because I'm "with" Material Girl. As a consolation prize I earned massive respect points from my friend's wife (we were there hanging out with a bunch of friends), now she thinks I'm a totally awesome guy. My over-investment alarm was going off in my brain, but I chose to ignore it. Maybe I'll pay the price for it later, I don't know.

 

Ironically, now that I've made the decision to go for sex at the next appropriate time, it made me examine the relationship I have with Material Girl even more. Probably my nice guy past messing with me again. I'd like to make sure all is well before I have sex with her, I guess I don't want to nail her then bail. Then even if I have legit reasons for bailing out, it'll still look bad. But really I shouldn't care about this. I don't know why I do. But as of now, I think I'm just going to go for it and worry about the big picture later.

 

The goods:

- She has lots of time for me (quality time is one of my love languages)

- We have amazing chemistry when we go dancing together

- She's attractive

- I find it interesting that she knows a lot about Asian culture... in fact her first husband was a Chinese guy.

- She's a good mom - yes, that makes a difference in my eyes, I have respect for good moms.

- And there's clearly lots of physical attraction, I think she's holding back because she doesn't want to appear like a slut/wants the man to take the lead. She's old fashioned that way. I have a feeling sex is going to be pretty damn good.

 

The not so goods:

- She's not all that in the conversational department, definitely not one of the more intelligent women I've dated.

 

The bads:

- My realization has come around full circle. She's materalistic afterall. Not gold digging, but she expects financial help. If I want to be optimistic, I'll say it's because she's worried about providing for her kids, and that she'll change once her kids become independent. But I think at this point it's wishful thinking because I want this to work out.

- She's not over her ex. I may be the rebound guy. She put herself in a situation where she was in contact with the ex (who is a big time player, and is now playing someone else), then proceeded to feel like crap because the new woman is younger and has a nicer body (enhanced). I pointed this out, that it's not the new woman, it's the ex player that is getting under her skin. So I asked her straight out... is she over her ex, and if she's ready to date again. That's just my style, I go straight for it. She said she's ready to move on, but she had a bit of tears welling up in her eyes when she was talking about her ex.

 

To be honest, she already made a bunch of dating "no-no's", like this thing with the ex. I really should bail on her... I don't know why I'm not, and instead I feel her unfiltered honesty is refreshing. I think it's because I really do like her, so I'm trying to see the good in everything. I feel like a noob, over-investing like a chump.

 

Maybe Material Girl will teach me my next lesson. We'll see.

[daphne]

You have your eyes wide open and are approaching this thing rationally. No harm in giving her some benefit of the doubt and seeing where it goes. I didn't see anywhere in the goods where you have discerned that she's a good person. That would sway my feelings for her for wanting someone to take care of her. I realize that not every single mother has the opportunity to go after a good education and excel, especially if they were young when they got pregnant. But you can still work hard to improve your lot in life, regardless of disadvantages.

[fishtaco]

You have your eyes wide open and are approaching this thing rationally. No harm in giving her some benefit of the doubt and seeing where it goes. I didn't see anywhere in the goods where you have discerned that she's a good person. That would sway my feelings for her for wanting someone to take care of her. I realize that not every single mother has the opportunity to go after a good education and excel, especially if they were young when they got pregnant. But you can still work hard to improve your lot in life, regardless of disadvantages.

 

Yeah, I have yet to find out if she's a good person or not.

 

She's attractive, and she has many men that are after her, and she uses that to ask for things.

 

But I distinguish her from the user type because she seems to stay very proper and appropriate. If guys are going to do things for her just because she asked, she'll gladly accept. But she won't pretend there's something more in order to get services from men. But she's certainly not shy about asking. She already asked me to do a bunch things for her. Some I did, some I was like... yeah right. I may be making the wrong decisions regarding Material Girl, but at least I'm not stupid like the other guys.

 

I don't mind helping out my girlfriend, I've done that before and I'll do it again, whether I end up with Material Girl or not. Heck I gave a former band mate $1,000 several months back just to help him out (we also continued with several years of friendship after the band broke up). Not sure if I'm getting it back. But my preference is for the person to not be so nonchalant about asking.

 

I don't trust my feelings at this point, because I keep feeling like I'm trying to see the good in her too much.

 

Like you said, approach with eyes wide open I guess...

[daphne]

Just be easy on the giving. A sincere girl doesn't need that much on the front end. It should happen over time, almost like an installment plan. Did I just say that?

 

But so long as you're giving, wanna help me renovate my bathroom? Or at least just fix my ceiling fan. The damn thing is higgly wiggly up there and about to fall on my head.

[fishtaco]

Just be easy on the giving. A sincere girl doesn't need that much on the front end. It should happen over time, almost like an installment plan. Did I just say that?

 

But so long as you're giving, wanna help me renovate my bathroom? Or at least just fix my ceiling fan. The damn thing is higgly wiggly up there and about to fall on my head.

 

Sure, after a couple of dates and some mind blowing sex, I'm up for helping you out with some renovation.

 

You are right about the sincere girl type. If she had asked for stuff after we've already built up a strong history, it would bother me a lot less. But she sort of just straight out asks for things. I think with everyone. She doesn't throw a fit or anything if she doesn't get it at least, but it's just weird to me because I'm not like that. I think it's tacky and puts the other person in an awkward position. I only ask for help as a last resort. I try very hard to be self sufficient. She did tell me she knows she's doing the right thing by being independent and strong, but she's really tired of it.

 

So far I've only helped her with some basic computer stuff, since she's computer illiterate. That's about it. So I'm throttling what I give her. If she wants the goods, she has to prove she's worth it.

 

I am a generous person by nature. But I know it's not a good idea to be always generous. Let's just say I've had a few lessons regarding how the world works.

[fishtaco]

Son of a...

 

I hate this not multidating thing. It's really bugging me. Not only did I miss out on zero effort ONS this weekend, Shakira just posted on facebook where she's partying tonight. See... this is why I was excited about connecting with her on FB, I'll get opportunities like this.

 

But... since I'm not multidating, I really shouldn't put myself in that situation and complicate things.... I'm just gonna stay home tonight and play guitar.

 

Now if Material Girl has proven herself and we're in a serious relationship together, then I wouldn't care. But I've prematurely stopped multidating... why did I do that? I have no idea.

[daphne]

Sure, after a couple of dates and some mind blowing sex, I'm up for helping you out with some renovation.

 

You are right about the sincere girl type. If she had asked for stuff after we've already built up a strong history, it would bother me a lot less. But she sort of just straight out asks for things. I think with everyone.

 

Sex doesn't come after a couple of dates. More like a couple of months. If you're lucky

 

I was worried she was asking for money. I don't generally like to ask a guy for favors unless it's something small that I just can't reach or lift, and he's already at my place anyway. i'm pretty self sufficient. But, I've found that guys live for that stuff. So occasionally I'll mention it and if he jumps to the rescue, it's a win win! I don't think I have high expectations on that tho.

 

But... since I'm not multidating, I really shouldn't put myself in that situation and complicate things.... I'm just gonna stay home tonight and play guitar.

 

Nothing wrong with that. Shakira will still be there if things don't work out with this one. Honestly, after this last one kind of blew up I wished I hadn't let my guard down and stopped multi dating. But it was more of a defense thing than anything. I think you optimize a potential serious relationship by narrowing down your focus to the one you think you could have it with. Everything else is just a time sucker or lots of noise.

[fishtaco]

Sex doesn't come after a couple of dates. More like a couple of months. If you're lucky

 

In that case, best of luck with your ceiling fan

 

I was worried she was asking for money. I don't generally like to ask a guy for favors unless it's something small that I just can't reach or lift, and he's already at my place anyway. i'm pretty self sufficient. But, I've found that guys live for that stuff. So occasionally I'll mention it and if he jumps to the rescue, it's a win win! I don't think I have high expectations on that tho.

 

She will eventually. But so far, not yet. She just asks for help in the form of services usually. Like she wants me to get her a "Learn To Speak Chinese" software. I guess if I were a sucker I'd go out and buy it. I told her I'll keep my eyes open for a free one. I think there are free online sites that teach that stuff.

 

Nothing wrong with that. Shakira will still be there if things don't work out with this one. Honestly, after this last one kind of blew up I wished I hadn't let my guard down and stopped multi dating. But it was more of a defense thing than anything. I think you optimize a potential serious relationship by narrowing down your focus to the one you think you could have it with. Everything else is just a time sucker or lots of noise.

 

Actually my view is opportunities don't sit around and wait, hence I prefer to multidate usually. If things with Material Girl blows up, by then Shakira may or may not be available.

 

But hindsight is always 20/20. I regret that I stopped multidating when I was with Violet as well. But at the time it was a good bet. Right now, I'm not so sure Material Girl is a good bet, but I've already placed it, so we'll see.

 

And yeah, sorry about your guy... But that's what happens. Gotta keep at it until you find the right one.