Maybe women should dress more conservatively

[Mark11]

If women don't want to be looked at sexually or have men thinking, wanting, or talking about sex so much perhaps they should dress more conservatively. Doesn't common sense tell people that? Alot of women tell me they just want to look good and feel sexy because life is a beauty contest for women, but you can still look good without all the makeup and if you dress more conservatively.

[anne1707]

Or maybe men should exercise more self-control. Why should the woman change because of the man?

[TaraMaiden]

If women don't want to be looked at sexually or have men thinking, wanting, or talking about sex so much perhaps they should dress more conservatively. Doesn't common sense tell people that? Alot of women tell me they just want to look good and feel sexy because life is a beauty contest for women, but you can still look good without all the makeup and if you dress more conservatively.

 

I'll tell you what.

I'll dress more conservatively, and wear no make-up, if you omit to wash, shave and just go round wearing a tracksuit for a month.

oh and don't forget to keep groping your balls.

 

That will definitely stop me looking upon you as a sex object and only that....

And at least I'll know you're not competing with other guys to be the one who gets his leg over that rather nice piece of hot totty....

 

Hey.... What's sauce for the goose....

[Lucky_One]

Honestly, I don't totally disagree with either side here.

 

Yes, men shouldn't act like every leg they see is something that they want to hump immediately.

 

But I have definitely gone out with a group of my girl friends, and the one who complains the most about men only wanting to "tap and run" is the one whose skirt is riding up her crack and her boobs are hanging out on the table when we eat. When she goes out, she dresses like she is cheap and easy. She is a paralegal, and always dresses professionally and tastefully in the office when I have seen her on work days. But in her off-time, she dresses provocatively.

 

You can argue that she is dressing to please herself, and yay for her, if so. But she complains all the time about the quality of man that she attracts.

 

BOTH sexes should be clean and as attractive as possible, IMHO. But I don't care to see women's tits or the smilie-creases on her butt cheeks, just like I don't care to see men whose shirts are unbuttoned too low or who are wearing tight jeans and pinkie rings.

[carhill]

Most women I know do dress conservatively. My exW was probably one of the most provocatively dressed women I've known, and even her style was tasteful. She'd have her moments of 'putting on the dog' as she used to put it, and I supported those times as 'letting go'. I think that's healthy.

 

I recall the last time I visited R_P and she took me out to a bar for my BD, no men hit on her at all and it was obvious that we weren't a couple. She hid her admittedly spectacular body quite well with tasteful, conservative, yet feminine clothes and wore minimal makeup. Some of the other ladies in the bar, OTOH, whoa

[Mark11]

I'll tell you what.

I'll dress more conservatively, and wear no make-up, if you omit to wash, shave and just go round wearing a tracksuit for a month.

oh and don't forget to keep groping your balls.

 

That will definitely stop me looking upon you as a sex object and only that....

And at least I'll know you're not competing with other guys to be the one who gets his leg over that rather nice piece of hot totty....

 

Hey.... What's sauce for the goose....

 

Men aren't the ones dressing provocatively to attract attention.

[anne1707]

OP - do you think that if a woman dresses provocatively then she deserves whatever attention she gets? Do you think a man is unable to control himself in that situation?

[somedude81]

Or maybe men should exercise more self-control. Why should the woman change because of the man?

 

OP - do you think that if a woman dresses provocatively then she deserves whatever attention she gets? Do you think a man is unable to control himself in that situation?

Damn right she does.

 

If a girl is wearing a shirt that exposes a lot of cleavage she deserves all the staring and cat calls etc. Same goes for really short shorts.

 

A women would have to be stupid to dress sexy and be surprised if it gives her unwanted attention.

 

Odds are a woman dress provocatively because she wants the attention.

 

There is only one reason why this girl is dressed like this.

[anne1707]

Damn right she does.

 

If a girl is wearing a shirt that exposes a lot of cleavage she deserves all the staring and cat calls etc. Same goes for really short shorts.

 

A women would have to be stupid to dress sexy and be surprised if it gives her unwanted attention.

 

Odds are a woman dress provocatively because she wants the attention.

 

There is only one reason why this girl is dressed like this.

 

A boy may be so immature and crude to cat call etc but a real man would not behave like that. Next thing is somebody will suggest that a woman dressed like that who gets raped was just "asking for it"

[Els]

Honestly, I don't totally disagree with either side here.

 

Yes, men shouldn't act like every leg they see is something that they want to hump immediately.

 

But I have definitely gone out with a group of my girl friends, and the one who complains the most about men only wanting to "tap and run" is the one whose skirt is riding up her crack and her boobs are hanging out on the table when we eat. When she goes out, she dresses like she is cheap and easy. She is a paralegal, and always dresses professionally and tastefully in the office when I have seen her on work days. But in her off-time, she dresses provocatively.

 

You can argue that she is dressing to please herself, and yay for her, if so. But she complains all the time about the quality of man that she attracts.

 

Yup, ditto. Probably not PC, but you kinda get what you sow. If you dress in Halloween garb on the streets, people will look at you funny. If you dress so that your breasts are nearly hanging out of your shirt, men will look at you lustily. Makes perfect sense.

[denise_xo]

A person's dress will always send out certain signals relative to the cultural codes of our society.To pretend something else is silly. However, IMO that provides no excuse for any of us to not show people basic respect.

 

And as to the 'deserved to be raped' argument which unfortunately is live and kicking today - that just makes me absolutely furious.

[somedude81]

A boy may be so immature and crude to cat call etc but a real man would not behave like that. Next thing is somebody will suggest that a woman dressed like that who gets raped was just "asking for it"

LOL, way to take it to the extreme.

 

Nice job on completely missing the points I made.

[Darren Taylor]

A boy may be so immature and crude to cat call etc but a real man would not behave like that. Next thing is somebody will suggest that a woman dressed like that who gets raped was just "asking for it"

 

 

A real woman dresses classy and doesn't have her cleavage or ass crack showing. Nothing justifies rape, but if you're dressing provactively, you deserve whatever attention you get. Most women need attention and constant reassurance.

[Darren Taylor]

Nice job on completely missing the points I made.

 

 

She did that intentionally.

[anne1707]

Once again I shall ask - why is it up to the woman to change the way she dresses because it might provoke cat calls etc. Can't a man control his behaviours and just grow up? This does not all fall on the woman - the man is responsible for his actions just as the woman is responsible for hers.

[Darren Taylor]

Once again I shall ask - why is it up to the woman to change the way she dresses because it might provoke cat calls etc. Can't a man control his behaviours and just grow up? This does not all fall on the woman - the man is responsible for his actions just as the woman is responsible for hers.

 

 

It's not all on the woman, but you're the one dressing like that. If you want to avoid the cat calls and the negative attention, stop dressing like that. It's that simple. The reason you and most other women refuse to stop, is because you enjoy the attention. If you didn't enjoy it, you wouldn't be dressing like that.

[anne1707]

It's not all on the woman, but you're the one dressing like that. If you want to avoid the cat calls and the negative attention, stop dressing like that. It's that simple. The reason you and most other women refuse to stop, is because you enjoy the attention. If you didn't enjoy it, you wouldn't be dressing like that.

 

You are assuming I dress like that

 

Anyway - you have not said anything about make behaviour

[Darren Taylor]

You are assuming I dress like that

 

Anyway - you have not said anything about make behaviour

 

 

I assume all women dress like that, because the majority do at least some of the time. The topic is not about male behavior, it's about women and how they dress. If you want to avoid the cat calls and anything else that goes with it, don't dress that way.

[Star Gazer]

I had a date Friday night (dinner theater) that I was dressed pretty conservatively for - he picked me up directly from work where we'd had a press conference, and I was still dressed for work.

 

When I excused myself to go to the restroom, a dude was waiting near the exit and said, "Oh, mama, you have fallen from heaven!" And as I came back out of the bathroom, he said, "Girl, you are fiiiiiiine, lemme have yo' number..."

 

It doesn't matter how a woman dresses. Catcallers will be catcallers. Arseholes will be arseholes.

[somedude81]

So you completely ignore the point that a woman dresses like that because she wants the attention.

 

Bravo!

[Star Gazer]

I assume all women dress like that, because the majority do at least some of the time. The topic is not about male behavior, it's about women and how they dress. If you want to avoid the cat calls and anything else that goes with it, don't dress that way.

 

And Giants fans should avoid wearing their gear to Dodger games. Is that your defense? Really?

[anne1707]

I assume all women dress like that, because the majority do at least some of the time. The topic is not about male behavior, it's about women and how they dress. If you want to avoid the cat calls and anything else that goes with it, don't dress that way.

 

Are you suggesting the majority dress like the woman in the link posted????

 

Even if not to that level, are you suggesting that all women (regardless of age seeing as you say "all") go out in mini skirts and low cut tops on a regular basis?

[denise_xo]

denise, where in this thread did anybody say that? Except for anne?

 

I wasn't referring to anyone in this thread, but these sentiments are alive and kicking where I live, and I live in a pretty progressive society when it comes to gender relations. Research on rape trials here have shown that members of a jury are less likely to convict someone of rape, even when there is conclusive evidence, when the victim dressed lightly or had a history of several sexual partners. The problem is so pervasive that there was a suggestion raised to no longer have a jury in rape cases.

 

In a different LS thread on a topic similar to this, someone compared dressing lightly and being raped to being robbed when walking in a dodgy neighbourhood at night and flashing your expensive watch and money. However, I have never heard or read anywhere that members of a jury in such cases will consider a lighter sentence for the perpetrator on the basis that the victim 'invited robbery' because he flashed his wealth in the wrong neighbourhood, as in the rape case example above. That might partially explain why a lot of women react very strongly to suggestions that what we wear somehow justify other people's bad behaviours.

[anne1707]

So you completely ignore the point that a woman dresses like that because she wants the attention.

 

Bravo!

 

I dress for myself, nobody else

[denise_xo]

It doesn't matter how a woman dresses. Catcallers will be catcallers. Arseholes will be arseholes.

 

Yes, totally.