Shaun-Dro Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 As you all know after reading most of my threads and posts that I'm a NY guy, and not happy about it right now, but as soon as my internship is up, I will definitely be seeking greener grass in another state. Unfortunately it will be about 2 years from now . Anyway, what I've noticed is that when I'm out and about, like on subway trains, buses, walking down the streets, etc. women resort to these eye games with men, me in particular, especially the attractive ladies. Just the other day, I was at the mall having lunch at the food court and many cute and attractive women passed me, but they would give no eye contact at all, but I know they saw me . They would just pretend no one is there and continue walking on looking good, dressing sexy, the whole nine. I am always dressed appropriately, shaved, Cool Water or Escape cologne, which I've been told by friends and acquaintences alike that's it quality so it's something else going on with them: MIND GAMES! This continued as I rode the train back home last night. Attractive women would continue to do this whenever I looked at them. And all I do is shoot a glance or two. I never stare. They would just pretend to not see me. But the minute I turn to look away and dont look back for a long while, I get these same women now looking at me! This is going on repeatedly. I'm so aggravated with them being all around me, looking good, and yet resort to these ridiculous head games. What are their problems? These are adult women, by the way, not teenage girls, but they might as well be, since some teen girls act more mature than they do and shoot me interested looks every now and then . But I'm not into them so forget it. This is a strange phenomenon and I pray that only here in NYC this is the norm and not in other states. When I called my buddy up last night to get on this topic about these women, all he said was to ignore them and thats that! Ignore them? Seriously?? I need some serious input on this subject because I'm so pissed right now.
surfrider4284 Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 I can't speak on the games played in NYC...but over here in the green grassy fields of california, I haven't noticed what you've described as much. That said, socal women do other things that will drive you mad. I think whatever geographic region you are in, the women are going to be the same, but different...if that makes any sense....
2sure Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 They probably notice you looking at them, look away, then look back wondering why you were looking at them. People look at each other all day everyday. People on trains, in subways, everywhere. It doesnt mean we are interested in knowing them or interested in ignoring them. Especially in NYC people watching is better than average. Especially in any city a woman needs to be aware of her surroundings and who is in them. It would be a game I suppose if a woman made liberal eye contact with you but when you said hello turned coldly away. Are you sure this "game" is not unique to NY, but unique to you instead?
runner Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 first of all, calm down.... secondly, it isn't a game. some people, both men and women, aren't comfortable engaging just any stranger off the street; it's like that in most urban areas, not just NYC. heck even slower cities may be the same way. are there more openly friendly cities and towns out there compared to NYC, yea certainly; and if that's where you'd rather be, then go. if these women are checking you out whilst your not looking, take it as a compliment, not as an offensive game. thirdly, most of my female friends tell me that cologne is kinda over-doing it when outside of a formal or date context. so you may want to relax on that a bit on an everyday basis.
Romeofud Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 As you all know after reading most of my threads and posts that I'm a NY guy, and not happy about it right now, but as soon as my internship is up, I will definitely be seeking greener grass in another state. Unfortunately it will be about 2 years from now . Anyway, what I've noticed is that when I'm out and about, like on subway trains, buses, walking down the streets, etc. women resort to these eye games with men, me in particular, especially the attractive ladies. Just the other day, I was at the mall having lunch at the food court and many cute and attractive women passed me, but they would give no eye contact at all, but I know they saw me . They would just pretend no one is there and continue walking on looking good, dressing sexy, the whole nine. I am always dressed appropriately, shaved, Cool Water or Escape cologne, which I've been told by friends and acquaintences alike that's it quality so it's something else going on with them: MIND GAMES! This continued as I rode the train back home last night. Attractive women would continue to do this whenever I looked at them. And all I do is shoot a glance or two. I never stare. They would just pretend to not see me. But the minute I turn to look away and dont look back for a long while, I get these same women now looking at me! This is going on repeatedly. I'm so aggravated with them being all around me, looking good, and yet resort to these ridiculous head games. What are their problems? These are adult women, by the way, not teenage girls, but they might as well be, since some teen girls act more mature than they do and shoot me interested looks every now and then . But I'm not into them so forget it. This is a strange phenomenon and I pray that only here in NYC this is the norm and not in other states. When I called my buddy up last night to get on this topic about these women, all he said was to ignore them and thats that! Ignore them? Seriously?? I need some serious input on this subject because I'm so pissed right now. Yo, man, your homeboy's right lol. Just ignore the broads. It will work like a charm, but you cant let them know you're pissed about them or it'll just come off as a game to them. You gotta put these broads to the back of your mind and forget them. Just do you. Like you said the internship & all that, just have fun with it, and look for other things to do that dont really involve them. Trust me, if your groomed and looking tight these chicks will eventually let their guards down & lighten up. Quick story for you, man. 1 time I tried to chat this chick up at school years ago & she tried to ignore me & act stupid. I shut her out after that & guess what? She came right back and even jumped my bones just to get my attention again . Broads will do the silliest things to get a man's approval, trust me. So, do like your friend said and ignore them nice and coolly & get your mind on other ****. Trust me, man, she'll sense it and that right there will attract her. In NY this is the norm, cause I've been here all my life . But I dont give a **** so I'm doing just fine.
Mimolicious Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 Let's crack it. As you all know after reading most of my threads and posts that I'm a NY guy, and not happy about it right now, but as soon as my internship is up, I will definitely be seeking greener grass in another state. Unfortunately it will be about 2 years from now . Anyway, what I've noticed is that when I'm out and about, like on subway trains, buses, walking down the streets, etc. women resort to these eye games with men, me in particular, especially the attractive ladies. Just the other day, I was at the mall having lunch at the food court and many cute and attractive women passed me, but they would give no eye contact at all, but I know they saw me . They would just pretend no one is there and continue walking on looking good, dressing sexy, the whole nine. Why should they "pretend"? If they are not giving you eye contact and keep it moving is because they are NOT interested. Ever thought that perhaps people have SO, BF/GF's/ H/W's and this is one good reason for them to not look around? Not every person out there is in the search. I am always dressed appropriately, shaved, Cool Water or Escape cologne, which I've been told by friends and acquaintences alike that's it quality so it's something else going on with them: MIND GAMES! WHAT ARE YOU WEARING????????? No wonder! It's the cologne!!!! LOL! Cool Water & Escape being quality?????? Where? Hone, step up your cologne game. These two colognes can be found at Rite-Aid and are like from 1990. Can i suggest something more potent? Try: Issey Miyake for Men- it's a delicious one. () Lanvin- is sporty but very catchy. Anything Tom Ford- smells rich. Italian Cypress is Classy. Cartier- Declaration is to die for!!! This continued as I rode the train back home last night. Attractive women would continue to do this whenever I looked at them. And all I do is shoot a glance or two. I never stare. They would just pretend to not see me. But the minute I turn to look away and dont look back for a long while, I get these same women now looking at me! This is going on repeatedly. I'm so aggravated with them being all around me, looking good, and yet resort to these ridiculous head games. What are their problems? These are adult women, by the way, not teenage girls, but they might as well be, since some teen girls act more mature than they do and shoot me interested looks every now and then . But I'm not into them so forget it. This is a strange phenomenon and I pray that only here in NYC this is the norm and not in other states. When I called my buddy up last night to get on this topic about these women, all he said was to ignore them and thats that! Ignore them? Seriously?? I need some serious input on this subject because I'm so pissed right now. I highly doubt that this is in the water in NYC. Let's be for real. How old are you? Early 20's? People meet anywhere. If you think about it, there is not really a "good place" to meet people. That "place" is determined by your taste and your lifestyle. If you don't play Golf, you wouldn't be meeting someone during T time. The mall- people are there to shop! Maybe teenager girls go to the mall to look for boys. That is the only place they are allowed to go to at that age. lol! The train- It's NYC! Unless you are super duper outstanding and your aura is going to attract your soulmate from a wagon away, people are on the rush-rush. There are millions of communters all day every day riding mass-trans. You said you go to school no? What about school? Different clubs? Etc... "eye games"? Hilarious!
Mme. Chaucer Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 NOT HAVING EYE CONTACT WITH PEOPLE I "SEE" IS PLAYING A MIND GAME? Oh my God! I never realized!
Mimolicious Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 NOT HAVING EYE CONTACT WITH PEOPLE I "SEE" IS PLAYING A MIND GAME? Oh my God! I never realized! If a man sitting next to me was wearing Cool Waters & Escape, I would beat his a$$ out the train or ask the mall cologne counter rep to walk him some samples.
xpaperxcutx Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 Is it the norm to wear cologne everyday? I'm a girl and I save my prized Lancome hynose for the weekends when I'm dressed up and out. I would choke if I come into contact with too much cologne. I guess this is a reason why I avoid eye contact with most men in the first place.
Romeofud Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 If a man sitting next to me was wearing Cool Waters & Escape, I would beat his a$$ out the train or ask the mall cologne counter rep to walk him some samples. Cologne aint the issue cause I wear it & the chicks dig it, so lay off trying to mess the OP's head more than it is lol. I wanted to add that teen girls probably drop hints cause they exhibit raw sexuality & are always looking for a new hook-up, if possible. They're not yet jaded or been through too much to make them bitter, so they're fair game, as long as they're at least 17 in NY your good. Give it a shot. Its not a big deal. As for meeting ppl all over NY, yea thats true, but mostly for the party/club scene that works & if you aint into all that **** in meeting ppl in NY, women of course is gonna be a pain in the ass lol. I always hit the streets w/ my boys so meeting chicks is nothing. Some wanna talk, some dont. W/e I dont care I just keep at it cause its all fun to me. I dont take them seriously. What might work best for you OP is to ignore them & forget about them & just live for you like your boy said. Aint he the one thats got it good w/ the girls?
Frank13 Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 NOT HAVING EYE CONTACT WITH PEOPLE I "SEE" IS PLAYING A MIND GAME? Oh my God! I never realized! I am trying to figure this one out too. People who don't know me don't give me gifts. I guess they are playing mind games with me. WTF?
Mme. Chaucer Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 Quote: Originally Posted by Mme. Chaucer NOT HAVING EYE CONTACT WITH PEOPLE I "SEE" IS PLAYING A MIND GAME? Oh my God! I never realized! I am trying to figure this one out too. People who don't know me don't give me gifts. I guess they are playing mind games with me. WTF? Perhaps the additional sensory experience of smelling him contributes to the "game playing." Anyway, it gives the ladies something new to worry about. Not that I would actually count as an offensive game player, since I'm all old & sheet. I'm sure I'm free to see and smell Shaun-Dro without speaking to him, making googley-eyes or administering sexual favors as much as I please! Aging does have its perks!
Author Shaun-Dro Posted May 20, 2011 Author Posted May 20, 2011 Cologne aint the issue cause I wear it & the chicks dig it, so lay off trying to mess the OP's head more than it is lol. I wanted to add that teen girls probably drop hints cause they exhibit raw sexuality & are always looking for a new hook-up, if possible. They're not yet jaded or been through too much to make them bitter, so they're fair game, as long as they're at least 17 in NY your good. Give it a shot. Its not a big deal. As for meeting ppl all over NY, yea thats true, but mostly for the party/club scene that works & if you aint into all that **** in meeting ppl in NY, women of course is gonna be a pain in the ass lol. I always hit the streets w/ my boys so meeting chicks is nothing. Some wanna talk, some dont. W/e I dont care I just keep at it cause its all fun to me. I dont take them seriously. What might work best for you OP is to ignore them & forget about them & just live for you like your boy said. Aint he the one thats got it good w/ the girls? Yea, he's got a woman already. They've been together a few years. He tells me she's a pain in the butt at times like ALL women so I'm not really missing out on anything special other than the need for sex every now and again. I think he has a good point the more I think about it . If I keep my mind off of sexual activities and anything in relationship to it, I should be fine. Of course there's the ocassional loneliness but finding a fun thing to do should keep my mind off her. The ignoring part won't be easy since she's every where I turn. They're all just in the way really, since attractive women serve no purpose to men, but to be eye-candy. A big tease. I'm not referring this statement to every woman. I'm only talking about the good-looking ladies that refuse to give men eye-contact when they're out and about, acting like their **** don't stink! To hell with them! Thanks for the advice, Romeofud, you were the only one in here I can deem as helpful, alongside my older buddy. I knew that talking to a man would hit this nail on the head.
spiderowl Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 I'm not a particularly attractive woman or anything but when I was younger, I was always getting pestered by guys. I was approached on the bus, train, in the taxi, in college, in the cafe, in the street, shop ... and so it goes on. I hated it, it really scared me. I learned to walk as if there were no guys around, totally ignoring them and keeping my eyes straight ahead. It was self-defence because I knew if I looked at them and they looked back, they would assume I was inviting them to approach me. I suspect this is what's going on. For me, it had nothing to do with attractiveness either. I was approached mostly by attractive guys as they were the ones with the confidence to do so, but I just didn't want to feel they were lurking ready to invade my space. I just wanted to go about my business in peace. I think this is what you are experiencing, women ignoring guys because they know if they look they will be approached by at least some. I wouldn't take it personally or make a big thing of it. If you want to get to know a woman, it's much nicer to end up talking to her informally while sitting in a cafe or something, not to walk up to her and assume she is giving you the eye because she happened to look at you. Looking is not an invitation.
Author Shaun-Dro Posted May 20, 2011 Author Posted May 20, 2011 I'm not a particularly attractive woman or anything but when I was younger, I was always getting pestered by guys. I was approached on the bus, train, in the taxi, in college, in the cafe, in the street, shop ... and so it goes on. I hated it, it really scared me. I learned to walk as if there were no guys around, totally ignoring them and keeping my eyes straight ahead. It was self-defence because I knew if I looked at them and they looked back, they would assume I was inviting them to approach me. I suspect this is what's going on. For me, it had nothing to do with attractiveness either. I was approached mostly by attractive guys as they were the ones with the confidence to do so, but I just didn't want to feel they were lurking ready to invade my space. I just wanted to go about my business in peace. I think this is what you are experiencing, women ignoring guys because they know if they look they will be approached by at least some. I wouldn't take it personally or make a big thing of it. If you want to get to know a woman, it's much nicer to end up talking to her informally while sitting in a cafe or something, not to walk up to her and assume she is giving you the eye because she happened to look at you. Looking is not an invitation. Thank you for your response. I'm glad to know and fully understand that women, especially the attractive ones, don't want anything to do with men as far as dating and do not wanna be approached. Its a shame that we see these TV shows like Tyra Banks and Wendy Williams with women complaining about men in their every day lives not approaching them, but in reality, they obviously make up the minority. I will from now on, mind my own business and just do me and me only, like I said in my earlier post. Knowing that you women feel this way about men is a relief, and I do notice a great increase in men not bothering with you women anyway, so I guess they caught on. I've officially joined that list. As I said before, since you're here for no purpose but to look good and to look better than the next woman, go ahead and have fun with that. I'm so out of the mix I can finally breathe better .
sanskrit Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 Learn to ignore the attacks from the harpies here, it is easy to distinguish them from the legitimate female posters who actually offer some substantive help or advice as opposed to just attacking you for being a man brazen enough to question or wonder about any aspect of female behavior. Public transit in NYC is a weird environment. Forget the movies and don't attempt to meet women there. Everyone is playing the people watching game for whatever reasons, boredom, sexual interest, perversion, etc. Women have been frightened to death in this country by politically motivated characterizations of men as the lowest common denominator, so when you are checking them out on the subway, even if they find you attractive, they are also innately sizing you up as a weirdo who might follow them to their stop, and then to their door. During the day in crowded areas away from the subway or bus stop is best for meeting women in NYC, other than the obvious clubs.
Mimolicious Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 Is it the norm to wear cologne everyday? I'm a girl and I save my prized Lancome hynose for the weekends when I'm dressed up and out. I would choke if I come into contact with too much cologne. I guess this is a reason why I avoid eye contact with most men in the first place. You save your perfume for the weekends? Ok... I guess that is your prerogative but that's not the "norm". For the most part, women of all ages, wear perfume all the time. Look at the numbers that the industry generates. Imagine if it was something only for a special occasion?!
Mme. Chaucer Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 You save your perfume for the weekends? Ok... I am an avid collector of perfumes and other fragrances, and I wear them at all times - including special ones even when I am getting ready for bed by myself. I am a scentaholic. Kind of sad and ironic that my boyfriend barely has a sense of smell!
Mimolicious Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 Cologne aint the issue cause I wear it & the chicks dig it, so lay off trying to mess the OP's head more than it is lol. I wanted to add that teen girls probably drop hints cause they exhibit raw sexuality & are always looking for a new hook-up, if possible. They're not yet jaded or been through too much to make them bitter, so they're fair game, as long as they're at least 17 in NY your good. Give it a shot. Its not a big deal. As for meeting ppl all over NY, yea thats true, but mostly for the party/club scene that works & if you aint into all that **** in meeting ppl in NY, women of course is gonna be a pain in the ass lol. I always hit the streets w/ my boys so meeting chicks is nothing. Some wanna talk, some dont. W/e I dont care I just keep at it cause its all fun to me. I dont take them seriously. What might work best for you OP is to ignore them & forget about them & just live for you like your boy said. Aint he the one thats got it good w/ the girls?\ 17?? Actually someone over the age of 21 wouldn't be to thrilled dating a 17 yr old that can't even get into a bar. I guess movies it is! Oh and let's not forget the law. LOL! I mean, if you want to catch the attention of a teen while you're already a college dude maybe that's what your metal level can afford.
SxB Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 As you all know after reading most of my threads and posts that I'm a NY guy, and not happy about it right now, but as soon as my internship is up, I will definitely be seeking greener grass in another state. Unfortunately it will be about 2 years from now . Anyway, what I've noticed is that when I'm out and about, like on subway trains, buses, walking down the streets, etc. women resort to these eye games with men, me in particular, especially the attractive ladies. Just the other day, I was at the mall having lunch at the food court and many cute and attractive women passed me, but they would give no eye contact at all, but I know they saw me . They would just pretend no one is there and continue walking on looking good, dressing sexy, the whole nine. I am always dressed appropriately, shaved, Cool Water or Escape cologne, which I've been told by friends and acquaintences alike that's it quality so it's something else going on with them: MIND GAMES! This continued as I rode the train back home last night. Attractive women would continue to do this whenever I looked at them. And all I do is shoot a glance or two. I never stare. They would just pretend to not see me. But the minute I turn to look away and dont look back for a long while, I get these same women now looking at me! This is going on repeatedly. I'm so aggravated with them being all around me, looking good, and yet resort to these ridiculous head games. What are their problems? These are adult women, by the way, not teenage girls, but they might as well be, since some teen girls act more mature than they do and shoot me interested looks every now and then . But I'm not into them so forget it. This is a strange phenomenon and I pray that only here in NYC this is the norm and not in other states. When I called my buddy up last night to get on this topic about these women, all he said was to ignore them and thats that! Ignore them? Seriously?? I need some serious input on this subject because I'm so pissed right now. Move to a place where you actually like the Woman the most. If you like the Woman the most where you are at right now then act like it- start approaching them, start smiling with them, and start telling them "Hi". You will get shot down many times but that is all part of dating, who cares.
Mimolicious Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 Thank you for your response. I'm glad to know and fully understand that women, especially the attractive ones, don't want anything to do with men as far as dating and do not wanna be approached. Its a shame that we see these TV shows like Tyra Banks and Wendy Williams with women complaining about men in their every day lives not approaching them, but in reality, they obviously make up the minority. I will from now on, mind my own business and just do me and me only, like I said in my earlier post. Knowing that you women feel this way about men is a relief, and I do notice a great increase in men not bothering with you women anyway, so I guess they caught on. I've officially joined that list. As I said before, since you're here for no purpose but to look good and to look better than the next woman, go ahead and have fun with that. I'm so out of the mix I can finally breathe better . So I got a suggestion for you, try dating men? I mean, it's going to be a lonely life for you since you have joined the list of not "bothering" with woman. This is a young mentality. You'll grow up and find the one. What's ironic is that you said: since attractive women serve no purpose to men, but to be eye-candy. A big tease. but then you said: I'm only talking about the good-looking ladies that refuse to give men eye-contact when they're out and about, acting like their **** don't stink! To hell with them! Sounds like you are mad that "attractive woman who serve no purpose to me" are ignoring you. I mean, they are useless so why are you frustrated that they are not kicking it to you? Maybe try catching the attention of more subtle chicks. Maybe you are going for the really fabulous & attractive hotties and not everyone is for everybody. Be a bit more realistic in your search. Just saying... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
spiderowl Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 No problem. I wouldn't like to put you off talking to women though, just to say how some might be feeling if they are ignoring guys in the street. There are nicer ways to make contact. I was scared of guys and was brought up in a puritanical background where I was pretty much told that all guys were interested in was sex. It's not surprising that I reacted badly when approached. I didn't think for a minute they would have liked a relationship too, which I guess some would have. There are lots of ways of approaching a woman that are not so scary and threatening. Being helpful is one, asking an opinion on something, being seen beforehand (i.e. not just appearing out of the blue from the side or behind), reading a paper in the cafe and just commenting on it, asking her opinion. If a guy approaches without some kind of interface like a book to talk about or asking advice, then it's direct and can seem confrontational. I wish now I'd given some of the guys a chance as they were polite, I just felt harassed. I can't understand why some women complain about not getting approached. I can tell you I was not pretty or anything, yet felt I could barely go anywhere without some kind of male attention. It was very odd.
Mimolicious Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 I am an avid collector of perfumes and other fragrances, and I wear them at all times - including special ones even when I am getting ready for bed by myself. I am a scentaholic. Kind of sad and ironic that my boyfriend barely has a sense of smell! ME TOO!!! And ME TOO! (I hardly have a sense of smell! ) I have to wear stuff that has tons of Tuberose to be able to really smell it. I can smell cologne better than I can smell perfume. I guess because most have musk. Sorry to TJ.
Mimolicious Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 BTW- There is no scent or look greater than a positive mind, self-esteem and confidence. And if you are looking at "very attractive women" and harbor negativity towards them as in "The hell with you snobs". You best believe you will be reeking such negativity. They will bounce in a sec...
Feelsgoodman Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 This is a strange phenomenon and I pray that only here in NYC this is the norm and not in other states. This is not just an NYC thing; it's a pretty typical big city dynamic (in North America anyway). For some reason, women these days seem to be deathly afraid of any sort of eye contact (yet, if you are an attractive man, they would often stare at you if you are looking in another direction). Usually, these same women whine and complain about how men don't randomly approach them anymore, except in bars and clubs. Gee, you think? How are you supposed to approach someone who wouldn't even maintain eye contact?
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