Feelsgoodman Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 in what way was mine a lame excuse? and really its a job like anything else. does that mean you have a problem with watching movies? most of them have females stripping off ..for one reason and one reason only ..for the blokes to oggle at ... I wasn't responding to your post.
perfectlyunique Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 I'm not familiar with the job situation in the UK, but in North America, getting a "McJob" is pretty easy. I have to ask you though: what do all those women in the UK who are not suitable for work as webcam models by virtue of their physical characteristics do for a living? Besides, you told us that you are no longer involved in that line of work, so presumably you now have a different job...which kind of defeats your whole argument. i still have no job thats the whole point the uks job situation is rubbish at the min..i was quaranteed a job as a webcam performer. i needed money and as i said in an earlier post any type of girl can be a webcam performer because different types of men look for different looks and figures. there are bbw sites out there for really big ladies so anyone can do it. my point was that i did the whole thing because i was sruggling financially and i couldnt get a job. i dont see that as a bad thing it was an oportunity to get money to provide for my son. if thats a bad thing shoot be for trying to be a good mother.
perfectlyunique Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 I wasn't responding to your post. well i had something to say. I find you to be quite nasty inregards to what you think about people who did/do the webcam thing. its a job nothing else...people who work in macdonalds flip burgers, shop workers serve customers and webcam performers perform for people
MrNate Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 ive applied for mcdonalds 3 times and each time they have never gotten back to me. ive even had a careers advisor who i met up with every week.She got me applying for alsorts and the only time people got back to me is when they said id been unsuccesful. i did the webcaming thing because i was quaranteed a job. it brought money in so personally whats the problem? at the end of the day all it is, is a job. Pefrectlyunique, you don't have to keep explaining yourself. Nor should you feel ashamed. Even though you didn't like what you had to do, you did what you had to do to feed your child. That's what a real woman does.
Feelsgoodman Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 well i had something to say. I find you to be quite nasty inregards to what you think about people who did/do the webcam thing. its a job nothing else...people who work in macdonalds flip burgers, shop workers serve customers and webcam performers perform for people Sure, but the post about lame excuses was not aimed at you.
Confusedalways Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 Seriously, what is with all this making her explain herself? It is up to people whether they want to date someone who does this, but attacking someone for doing it?? Geez.
LeaningIntoTheMuse Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 Sure, but the post about lame excuses was not aimed at you. You are pathetic! What does a stranger on the internet have to do with you? Sure, she has different moral standards to you...does that mean you have to trash her?
JohnnyCage Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 Would I date a woman who, instead of working an honest job, chooses to put her private parts on display for millions of horny dudes to jerk off to? Hell yes!! A woman like that sounds like a real keeper!!! Not only would I date her, I'd take her to meet my parents right way. Can you imagine the dinner table conversation? "So, Jazzari what do you do for a living?" "Umm...well...I do stuff with computers!" Or lunchtime discussion at the office..."Hey dude, I was checking out your woman on the internets the other day...dayuumm!! Look at dem tities!!!" Hell, a woman like that is someone I'd want to marry and have kids with! I'm sure the juniors would be real proud to find out what their mom does for a living...maybe we could even incorporate some of that webcam footage into a family video! I find it hilarious that the OP makes it sound as if she had to choose between being a virtual stripper and starving to death. The US imports millions of workers from third world countries to do jobs that average Americans think they are too good for. Apparently, being a "webcam model" is considered more "dignified" than working at McDonald's or Walmart (and you can get a job like that anywhere in the country, including the crappy little town that the OP lives in). Heck, if money is real tight, get two McJobs (I know several single mom who support themselves AND their kids that way), cut down your expenses, find a roommate (or even move in with your parents). Sure, your footwear collection would suffer, but at least your dignity would not...if that's worth anything to you, of course. This is the BEST POST I have ever read on this site.
cerridwen Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 Read about your situations Jazarri and perfectlyunique. If a guy (or woman) can't understand why you did it (or contemplated it) given your circumstances, eff them.
JohnnyCage Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 (edited) Sometime back I was reading the plight of women in Iraq and Afghanistan after the war where many women had lost their husbands/fathers/brothers and under the Taliban/Al Qaeda regime these women would be killed if they were seen outside working. And these women had no male supporters because they all died in the war or some bombing. Now most of these women had "no choice" but to become prostitutes. They would get some money that they used to feed their kids and themselves. Now if I want to judge women like that I would say that I am proud of such women. But if an American (or a UK) woman does the same thing where she becomes a prostitute or a web cam model or anything to do with the sex trade I would not for one second believe that it was the only option they had to put food on the table. It's their choice that they make. The easiest choice where they don't have to work that hard and still get paid a lot more than an average hard working person. No matter how hard you all try to justify such a thing it's never going to sit pretty with almost everyone. All these people who are supporting this will cringe at the thought of their mothers, sisters, gfs or wives doing the same thing. Edited May 19, 2011 by JohnnyCage
Author Jazzari Posted May 19, 2011 Author Posted May 19, 2011 I'm not familiar with the job situation in the UK, but in North America, getting a "McJob" is pretty easy. I have to ask you though: what do all those women in the UK who are not suitable for work as webcam models by virtue of their physical characteristics do for a living? Besides, you told us that you are no longer involved in that line of work, so presumably you now have a different job...which kind of defeats your whole argument.There's no such thing. No matter what you look like or what age you are, there's a demand. Are you as condeming toward the men who pay for such services?
Feelsgoodman Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 But if an American (or a UK) woman does the same thing where she becomes a prostitute or a web cam model or anything to do with the sex trade I would not for one second believe that it was the only option they had to put food on the table. It's their choice that they make. The easiest choice where they don't have to work that hard and still get paid a lot more than an average hard working person. This is really what it boils down to. Making decent money without much effort. And the only thing you have to sacrifice is your moral integrity.
Mimolicious Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 Would you date a webcam model? Or is that no different from prostitution? Men date strippers and h*es! ...
fishtaco Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 This is really what it boils down to. Making decent money without much effort. And the only thing you have to sacrifice is your moral integrity. Agree until the moral integrity part. I think you may be living in the wrong century. In our society, there is no moral integrity to speak of. We are a capitalistic society gone into overdrive. Easy money is everyone's holy grail. Did you know that there is a price on human lives? If a product kills people, first they will do a research - how many percent of the consumers will die using this product. Then they compare with the cost of recalling the product. If it's more expensive to recall, then they let people die, and pay for the lawsuits/settlements as they trickle in... because it's cheaper that way. I'm sorry, moral integrity doesn't exist. Taking ones clothes off or even have sex for profit, I'd rank that way less severe than letting people die because of monetary concerns, in terms of lack of moral integrity. These are common, legal, and accepted practices in our society. So, sorry, as far as trading moral ethics for money, forgive me if I can't get myself to point fingers at women in the sex trade for violations of moral integrity. In fact, I think it'd be pretty funny if we expect women with hot bodies to somehow have higher moral standards than our politicians, CEO's, and leaders.
lenny Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 Very interesting stuff here. I am one of those people who take the working hard thing seriously. Have a very good full time job but the ex put me so far into debt that I have a couple part time minimum wage jobs trying to recover (I did avoid bankruptcy however). The major issue with working all these jobs is finding childcare and never being around my kid. This is topic really peaked my interest. Just how much cash can a girl make doing this?
LeaningIntoTheMuse Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 This is only going off her videos, but if Kate from Kate's Playground was interested in me, hell yeah I would date her.
Feelsgoodman Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 Agree until the moral integrity part. I think you may be living in the wrong century. In our society, there is no moral integrity to speak of. We are a capitalistic society gone into overdrive. Easy money is everyone's holy grail. Did you know that there is a price on human lives? If a product kills people, first they will do a research - how many percent of the consumers will die using this product. Then they compare with the cost of recalling the product. If it's more expensive to recall, then they let people die, and pay for the lawsuits/settlements as they trickle in... because it's cheaper that way. I'm sorry, moral integrity doesn't exist. Taking ones clothes off or even have sex for profit, I'd rank that way less severe than letting people die because of monetary concerns, in terms of lack of moral integrity. These are common, legal, and accepted practices in our society. So, sorry, as far as trading moral ethics for money, forgive me if I can't get myself to point fingers at women in the sex trade for violations of moral integrity. In fact, I think it'd be pretty funny if we expect women with hot bodies to somehow have higher moral standards than our politicians, CEO's, and leaders. Don't agree with your moral relativism. While it's true that we are living in an era of declining public morality, there are still people out there who come from good families and have honour and integrity. Maybe I'm in the minority, but that is the only ind of woman I would consider for a long term relationship. Just because mainstream culture has rejected the concept of basic human decency does not mean that I have to as well. This is only going off her videos, but if Kate from Kate's Playground was interested in me, hell yeah I would date her. No offence, but judging by your other posts on this forum, you'd date just about any female with a heartbeat.
LeaningIntoTheMuse Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 I think you are just in it for the hoof. The funny thing is, I have a foot fetish so normally that would bother me. But she's attractive enough, that one funny shaped foot doesn't matter much in the long run. Next Door Nikki is also very attractive, although I hear she's a bitch in real life.
perfectlyunique Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 Pefrectlyunique, you don't have to keep explaining yourself. Nor should you feel ashamed. Even though you didn't like what you had to do, you did what you had to do to feed your child. That's what a real woman does. thanks i agree it made me feel crap tbh but i knew i wouldnt be doing it forever and my child had the things he needed..also he will NEVER find out Sure, but the post about lame excuses was not aimed at you. you said in earlier posts that there was no reason for me to turn to that so i felt i had to say something You are pathetic! What does a stranger on the internet have to do with you? Sure, she has different moral standards to you...does that mean you have to trash her? im a really nice person in all honesty i hated every minute of it, but my child was fed and so to me it seemed i was doing a good thing for my family Read about your situations Jazarri and perfectlyunique. If a guy (or woman) can't understand why you did it (or contemplated it) given your circumstances, eff them. thanks , tbh id rather strip off on cam than my lil boy go without basic things. i didnt do it long just enough to make sure we where ok.
fishtaco Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 This is the kind of free for all attitude that causes a loss of cohesion in a society and its eventual collapse. God didn't do it. Sin didn't do it. Immorality didn't do it. People stopped caring how their actions affect the group that did it. It is just a matter of time before it happens again and again. Then so much effort, energy, and time is wasted in rebuilding to reclaim what you had at the beginning of the last civilization. All so pointless. I don't like the way things are going. I'd rather corporation care more about not killing people than money. I'd rather politicians actually care about the future of our countries instead of padding their own pocketbooks. But it's not my choice. If we want to reclaim moral ethics, I don't think cleaning out women in the sex trade would be a productive step #1. If anything, they are the scapegoats of a society with failing morals. Do nakedness and sex really contribute to the decline of a civilization, or merely a symptom of the festering cancer? I see no point beating on women about ethical issues. They're just out to make easy money, like everyone else. So I don't see why they should be singled out when any impact they have is far less than those in influential positions. Maybe I'm in the minority, but that is the only ind of woman I would consider for a long term relationship. You missed my point. I would think hard, and twice, then twice more before I would get into an LTR with someone from the sex industry. I would also think hard, and twice then twice more before I would get into an LTR with a bossy woman. These are personal preferences. Difference being I see it as what it is - legal means to make easy money. I may not date them, but I'm not going to condemn them for doing the same thing everyone else is doing.
Author Jazzari Posted May 19, 2011 Author Posted May 19, 2011 Very interesting stuff here. I am one of those people who take the working hard thing seriously. Have a very good full time job but the ex put me so far into debt that I have a couple part time minimum wage jobs trying to recover (I did avoid bankruptcy however). The major issue with working all these jobs is finding childcare and never being around my kid. This is topic really peaked my interest. Just how much cash can a girl make doing this? They list the income for the top 5 performers on Livejasmin.com Right now, the top performer made $6,895 from May 1-15. But I'm sure most make significantly less.
perfectlyunique Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 They list the income for the top 5 performers on Livejasmin.com Right now, the top performer made $6,895 from May 1-15. But I'm sure most make significantly less. i was with one called imlive .. there is a category where its just friendship so no nudity is needed although obviously you dont make as much. but if you put the effort in you can make alot. you can set your on price aswell after you get your first five star rating , how much a minute i mean
Feelsgoodman Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 I may not date them, but I'm not going to condemn them for doing the same thing everyone else is doing. By that standard, we should not condemn the Nazis (on an individual level) either. They were just doing what everyone else in Germany was doing at the time. By the way, I'm not trying to compare strippers to Nazis. My point is that I have no problem condemning immoral behaviour even if "everyone else" is doing. And besides, the vast majority of women are NOT doing it.
LeaningIntoTheMuse Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 No offence, but judging by your other posts on this forum, you'd date just about any female with a heartbeat. No offense, but I've rejected women before. I wouldn't date just anyone.
LeaningIntoTheMuse Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 By that standard, we should not condemn the Nazis (on an individual level) either. They were just doing what everyone else in Germany was doing at the time. By the way, I'm not trying to compare strippers to Nazis. My point is that I have no problem condemning immoral behaviour even if "everyone else" is doing. And besides, the vast majority of women are NOT doing it. You are a bloody idiot, you know that? And before you say that I'm american, and can't use a british term, I had a lot worse things to say. But I don't want to be banned.
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