bentnotbroken Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 Um, have you ever taken a good look at Maria? A case study in anorexia. She's about as attractive as Skeletor. I wonder how much tooth enamel she has left. I don't blame Arnold one bit for getting some on the side. Having sex with Maria must be sort of like lying on a bed of nails. Those elbows and knees, not to mention that beak of hers, would break the skin and draw blood. Easily. Heaven only knows what she looks like with her clothes off--probably like she just came strolling out of Auschwitz. And she knew he was a complete dog when they got married, that was his reputation. She can't complain about this now and have any credibility. You know, if these kind of women would only be content with a down to earth guy, instead of always insisting on the super Alpha male, they might have a better chance of keeping 'ol Rover within the fence perimeter. Oh well at least Arnold didn't drive his baby momma off a bridge and leave her to drown, like Uncle Teddy. Anyone in the Kennedy family is the last person in the world to complain about Arnold's antics with the ladies. Could someone tell the chef someone else is stirring his pots.
DufenSchmertz Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 Could someone tell the chef someone else is stirring his pots. I knew Arnold was a body builder, film star, and politician, but when was he a chef? Did he have one of those celebrity chef shows on cable? I must have missed it, I don't watch the Food Network very often.
Author greengoddess Posted May 18, 2011 Author Posted May 18, 2011 I am not blaming Maria for Arnold's actions. BUT she knew and she chose to stay. Think: Hillary Clinton. I stayed in my marriage, too, even when I knew my former H was a cheat many times over, albeit, anything intimate between us ceased, our marriage was still a partnership. So no, I do not feel sad for her. She has a lot going for her, she will be fine. How did she KNOW?? Because he was in an OPEN relationship when they met? Open is just that. Open is NOT cheating. It is the complete opposite of cheating it is being totally honest with what you want so you do not cheat. One of the other woman's favorite justifications. I'm not doing anything to her because she knows. I know she knows. It's like you think it excuses you if you can convince yourself she knows about you and is turning a blind eye. Then asked how do you know she knows. Oh well she just has to. It is NO EXCUSE and NO JUSTIFICATION and NO REASON to blame the betrayed spouse. As soon as Maria found out she was out the door. She didn't know.
StoneCold Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 After all, you don't hear any sordid tales about HER life coming out, do you?? No poolboys or chauffers "telling all" about her escapades?? Dont be so naive... Im not saying that it did happen but just because you dont hear about it doesnt mean its not happening. When a woman decides to cheat nobody will know until she decides to let it out....much better at it than us guys
Author greengoddess Posted May 18, 2011 Author Posted May 18, 2011 It amazes me how superficial some of you can be to go on about arnies deflated body and maria's supposed anorexia. I hope someone critiques you in the same and you can even look half as good when you are that old. The judgments about behavior and lies are well deserved but to go on and on passing judgments over their looks is disgusting. Just disgusting. Oh and she knew he was a dog when she married him. Um hello maybe she thught he was really in love for the first time and would not be a dog and NO having an open relationship is NOT being a dog. It is being honest instead of lying and cheating. Ow certainly know their man is a liar and a cheat but they still want their price charming because it is twue wuv. People never cease to amaze me. The ones who cry judgment are always the worst and judge people on outward appearance and not even behavior which can be controlled.
tami-chan Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 How did she KNOW?? Because he was in an OPEN relationship when they met? Open is just that. Open is NOT cheating. It is the complete opposite of cheating it is being totally honest with what you want so you do not cheat. One of the other woman's favorite justifications. I'm not doing anything to her because she knows. I know she knows. It's like you think it excuses you if you can convince yourself she knows about you and is turning a blind eye. Then asked how do you know she knows. Oh well she just has to. It is NO EXCUSE and NO JUSTIFICATION and NO REASON to blame the betrayed spouse. As soon as Maria found out she was out the door. She didn't know. She knew Arnold was no saint-he was in a relationship with another woman while he was dating her. During the campaign for the governorship there were stories about him and other women-Maria defended him. She might not have known of this particular affair but she knew the kind of man she is married, that's what I meant. No, there is no excuse for his actions, absolutely not. But she did choose him and remained with him. Not worried about her at all. She will probably get a gig at Oprah's network. Women will be able to relate to her. How many women can really say that they were able to relate to Maria Shriver before this? very, very few. Now, despite her upbringing, family and money she is "one of us". The kids are a different story. But how they come out of this mess , imho, will largely depend on how the parents will move on from here.
Author greengoddess Posted May 18, 2011 Author Posted May 18, 2011 She knew Arnold was no saint-he was in a relationship with another woman while he was dating her. During the campaign for the governorship there were stories about him and other women-Maria defended him. She might not have known of this particular affair but she knew the kind of man she is married, that's what I meant. No, there is no excuse for his actions, absolutely not. But she did choose him and remained with him. Not worried about her at all. She will probably get a gig at Oprah's network. Women will be able to relate to her. How many women can really say that they were able to relate to Maria Shriver before this? very, very few. Now, despite her upbringing, family and money she is "one of us". The kids are a different story. But how they come out of this mess , imho, will largely depend on how the parents will move on from here. so she deserves what she got because he was a charmer. Um yea okay. He was in an OPEN relationship with another woman when he met her. That is being as far from a cheater as you can. Being in an open relationship requires honesty. It's so you don't cheat. It is being honest about what you want. Cheating is nothing but total lies. Looks like he got really good at lying though. Do you understand what an open relationship is? I can not even fathom being so dispicable as this other woman. To work in the betrayed wifes house waiting to collect her retirement from her. So wrong on so many levels. Her ten year old will never believe a word she says again. I hope the dad (non bio dad) gets full custody but he probably won't. This ten year old will be stuck with a lying, cheating, conniving woman for a mother.
Spark1111 Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 so she deserves what she got because he was a charmer. Um yea okay. He was in an OPEN relationship with another woman when he met her. That is being as far from a cheater as you can. Being in an open relationship requires honesty. It's so you don't cheat. It is being honest about what you want. Cheating is nothing but total lies. Looks like he got really good at lying though. Do you understand what an open relationship is? I can not even fathom being so dispicable as this other woman. To work in the betrayed wifes house waiting to collect her retirement from her. So wrong on so many levels. Her ten year old will never believe a word she says again. I hope the dad (non bio dad) gets full custody but he probably won't. This ten year old will be stuck with a lying, cheating, conniving woman for a mother. As of today it was reported that Arnie and Maria's oldest son, a 17-yr. old, has stopped using 'Shwarzenneger' as his last name and is now going by 'Shriver' on his twitter account. How sad and angry is that child? And the fallout is just beginning.
TMCM Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 Hmmm where's John Michael Kayne and WorldIsYours on this topic? Inquiring minds want to know.
mzdolphin Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 I mean, there is cheating and then there is being a dog. To mock your wife in that way. To carry on with that woman, in your house, raise that child under the same roof. And I hear the woman became upset when he tried to fire her. Excuse me? You expect to continue working there now that the wife knows? I would however, if I were that woman, get a good attorney and get some serious back child support.
mzdolphin Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 I wouldn't make light of any infidelity, but I think a woman could get over an affair, even two affairs. But the In YOUR FACE lying and deceit. .. It's almost a hateful gesture on his part. It's like a power trip, like he thought he had earned the right to keep the kid, the women guessing. And how stupid of this woman not to out him, come clean to her husband and be honest with her son about something as basic as his existence. I know lots of people cheat. I read the boards here. But something about this was soooo low. So mean and hateful.
nyrias Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 I mean, there is cheating and then there is being a dog. To mock your wife in that way. To carry on with that woman, in your house, raise that child under the same roof. And I hear the woman became upset when he tried to fire her. Excuse me? You expect to continue working there now that the wife knows? I would however, if I were that woman, get a good attorney and get some serious back child support. 1) I mean it is not NEWS that he is a dog. His womanizing ways are pretty well documented. While it does not excuse his behavior, i have to question Maria's judgment of marrying such a person. It would be naive to assume that status & money has nothing to do with it. 2) I think you are wrong. The woman has retired, and is no longer work there. Can someone verify this? 3) She already received financial support from Arnold. I would guess not a small amount either. Otherwise why would she keep quiet for so long? I bet she (and her kid) is already set for life. Surely now the cat is out of the bag, she can be greedy and ask for more though.
DufenSchmertz Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 Did you hear the title of Arnold's new movie? "The Sperminator"
DufenSchmertz Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 In Arnold's new movie, "The Sperminator," he plays a killer robot from the future, who travels back through time to the present. His mission is to kill a pregnant woman before she gives birth to the love child of the man who will become the Governor of California.
Lecturer Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 Yes, it has been said Arny has been financially supporting the child since day 1. It is an interesting discussion about how much sympathy she should receive based on how well she should have known the type of guy he was. I mean, sure a woman can try to claim that despite knowing a man's ways, she expected him to be different for her.. but that is nothing more than willful blindness. It is something that would stick in the craw of plenty of upstanding men, frustrated with women always choosing 'bad boys' over them, then complaining about being hurt and not able to find a 'good guy'.
whichwayisup Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 She might not have known of this particular affair but she knew the kind of man she is married, that's what I meant. Then with that said, shouldn't every single OW who ends up marrying their MM, shouldn't be surprised down the road that he gets into another affair and has an OW. Hey, since an OW married her MM, knows he's capable of telling lies, is capable of such betrayal, living a double life, should she be blamed for the future outcome if the guy cheats on her?
StoneCold Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 Then with that said, shouldn't every single OW who ends up marrying their MM, shouldn't be surprised down the road that he gets into another affair and has an OW. Hey, since an OW married her MM, knows he's capable of telling lies, is capable of such betrayal, living a double life, Well it really would depend on why the affair happened in the first place....but generally speaking? yeah the OW should be careful. However, ultimately I think any and everyone should be very careful when entering into such a contract. Regardless of what you think you are getting now both of you may very well be whistling a differnt tune later..things change, people change...everything changes. should she be blamed for the future outcome if the guy cheats on her No..but she would have to take responsibility for the situation she knowingly walked herself right into....thats a no brainer
Mimolicious Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 I wonder that as well, he was never a saint. She coulda had anyone! Just like more than half the LS population. Just saying... They could have anyone (excluding married) people but they don't. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Mimolicious Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 I understand what the term implies but in this woman's case, she was married so the child had a legal father either way. I see what you meant (now).
nyrias Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 Then with that said, shouldn't every single OW who ends up marrying their MM, shouldn't be surprised down the road that he gets into another affair and has an OW. Hey, since an OW married her MM, knows he's capable of telling lies, is capable of such betrayal, living a double life, should she be blamed for the future outcome if the guy cheats on her? Yes. And that does not end with OWs. How many have encountered lying, cheating men/women when they were dating, and married them anyway? OTOH, if you want to avoid every single individual that has some flaws, given the statistics, you probably will be alone forever. It is a tough world out there.
Mimolicious Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 Um, have you ever taken a good look at Maria? A case study in anorexia. She's about as attractive as Skeletor. I wonder how much tooth enamel she has left. I don't blame Arnold one bit for getting some on the side. Having sex with Maria must be sort of like lying on a bed of nails. Those elbows and knees, not to mention that beak of hers, would break the skin and draw blood. Easily. Heaven only knows what she looks like with her clothes off--probably like she just came strolling out of Auschwitz. And she knew he was a complete dog when they got married, that was his reputation. She can't complain about this now and have any credibility. You know, if these kind of women would only be content with a down to earth guy, instead of always insisting on the super Alpha male, they might have a better chance of keeping 'ol Rover within the fence perimeter. Oh well at least Arnold didn't drive his baby momma off a bridge and leave her to drown, like Uncle Teddy. Anyone in the Kennedy family is the last person in the world to complain about Arnold's antics with the ladies. Not the brightest light bulb, I see... Actually, let me delete what I was going to say...
Mimolicious Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 Then with that said, shouldn't every single OW who ends up marrying their MM, shouldn't be surprised down the road that he gets into another affair and has an OW. Hey, since an OW married her MM, knows he's capable of telling lies, is capable of such betrayal, living a double life, should she be blamed for the future outcome if the guy cheats on her? NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Because he will NEVER do that to them.
Mimolicious Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 Yes. And that does not end with OWs. How many have encountered lying, cheating men/women when they were dating, and married them anyway? OTOH, if you want to avoid every single individual that has some flaws, given the statistics, you probably will be alone forever. It is a tough world out there. Well no. Depends on your benchmark of things that you can or can't accept based on your standards. It's that simple.
nyrias Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 Well no. Depends on your benchmark of things that you can or can't accept based on your standards. It's that simple. Uh? Your second sentence makes zero sense. Please clarify. And let me make myself clear. Given the infidelity statistics, the chance of finding a non-cheater (or worse yet, one who does not want to cheat) is low. Couple with that fact that there may be other shortcomings (lack of career, unattractive, other personality defects, bad habits ...), the chance of meeting a perfect person is probably non-existent. Now of course you are lower your standard. The question is what standard to go first.
Mimolicious Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 (edited) Uh? Your second sentence makes zero sense. Please clarify. And let me make myself clear. Given the infidelity statistics, the chance of finding a non-cheater (or worse yet, one who does not want to cheat) is low. Couple with that fact that there may be other shortcomings (lack of career, unattractive, other personality defects, bad habits ...), the chance of meeting a perfect person is probably non-existent. Now of course you are lower your standard. The question is what standard to go first. Makes two of us making "zero sense". Your bolded last 2 questions make zero sense to me. When did I say meeting the "perfect person" BUT there are basic traits that are good enough for some. Comes down to what is important to the person looking. If you are looking for a man that has money and good looks, then that is your benchmark for the "perfect man" and is based on your standards. The chances of finding someone who doesn't cheat are not "low" at all... Not everyone is wired the same way. The man who won't cheat on you, may be the same dude that smokes 3 packs of cigarettes a day. Which one do you chose to live with? The smoker non-cheater or the cheater with no nicotine habit? The choice is yours, and those choices are based on standards and other factors that come with maturity. Immature & inexperienced women (I am not going to speak for men, nor am I speaking for every woman) may have the tendency of falling for someone with horrible qualities, yet they put up with it for a thousand and one, bad reasons. I did. I didn't know better. Personally speaking, at this point in my life, I know what I am willing to accept from a person and what I am not. That's why I divorced my xH and didn't fall for his bullshyte sorrya$$. Even after our D. He still tries because he thinks he is the hottest shyte on earth. He's so 1995, not my style anymore. Even though I can't fully say what I am want in a person, I know what I don't want. Anything acceptable that is not on my "No-no" list, is something that I am willing to work with. This is what I called "That simple". Having realistic standards, opens the opportunity of meeting 1,000 amazing potential mates. Edited May 18, 2011 by Mimolicious
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