LeaningIntoTheMuse Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 And are those women worth being with? The ones that respond positively have emotional issues, likely daddy issues. True. Which is why, if you're not an a*hole, you shouldn't become one. You should treat others as they treat you, but you shouldn't go out of your way to ruin someone else's day. People are nice, generally. And someone who appreciates kindness, won't appreciate rudeness.
Star Gazer Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 The OP is correct if the really pretty girl in question is under the age of, oh, 11. Because as we all know, if a boy is mean to you during that age, he likes you.
Mme. Chaucer Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Quote: Originally Posted by Shaun-Dro MEAN!! That's right. This is what I think will definitely get their attention. Feel free to dispute it if you want, but I went into Target today to get a few things for the house. I saw a customer chatting up this cute girl and I could tell she didn't wanna be bothered. He was friendly and all but it did nothing for her, as she kept her back to him the whole time. Enter me. I walked over to that same girl. Saw her up close. I'm guessing she's about 20-21, young. She was doing shopback or what ever you call it when the workers gather misplaced items and throw them into the cart. I asked her where the scales are at, looking her straight in the eyes, with no smiling or anything remotely flirtatious. She looked at me stunned. And then tried hard to think, putting her hand to her neck, clearing her throat. I said, "come on, I dont got all day, you work here don't you?" and she stuttered a little bit, looked around, and then started rambling about the scales might be down this aisle, or maybe that aisle, or maybe that aisle, and so on. She had no clear-cut answer for me! I then said "look, ms., hurry and find out where the scales are already." in a darker voice, and that's when she finally got help. Damn, that felt good, because later on, when I had to pass her again, I totally ignored her and she couldn't get her eyes off of me, nor was she able to fully concentrate on her task. I found this extremely interesting. And when I left the store, I kept up the attitude and every good-looking woman in sight had their eyes on me in a sort of curious, fascinated way. Hmm...I'm starting to wonder . You might not be getting the reaction you intended. People tend to stare at nuisances like small children having temper tantrums. Still it was for the best. You gave her back the attitude she was dishing out and broke her out of the cycle she was in for at least the moment. Really? I see no evidence of this girl "dishing out" anything other than perhaps an incompetence at her job. Which, I will point out, is VERY common at Target - seems like hardly anyone who works there knows where anything can be found. Regardless of what they look like. She is supposed to engage with a customer who is "chatting her up" while she is working simply because she is a pretty girl ... and if she fails to do so, she "deserves" to be treated like garbage? What if she were fat and homely girl, or a grandma? OP - what is with the "darker" voice? Were you trying to come off at threatening? Don't you think that's creepy? NEWS FLASH: RUDE, IGNORANT BEHAVIOR IS ON THE PERSON WHO IS EXHIBITING IT - NOT ON THE RECIPIENT, NO MATTER WHAT THAT PERSON LOOKS LIKE.
Art_Critic Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 HHahhahahahahahahahahah Should've tried it at walmart.... You would've gotten laid
Author Shaun-Dro Posted May 8, 2011 Author Posted May 8, 2011 When you are direct and tease her with intelligent humor, instead of complimenting her on her looks like 90 % of guys do, you are golden. When you are direct and tease her like a child until she gets upset or make rude comments without smiling, then you are disrespectful and you are destined to be rejected by not only pretty ones but all the women. Hey, I've done the intelligent humor and teasing, and it got me nowhere but polite smiles but never a number. I'll get excuses instead. So why should I bother anymore with these pretty girls' BS? Anyway, what I did was an experiment. I dont do this to normal people on regular days, just did it to her because I noticed how she totally ignored the guy before me who was being nice. Obviously you boneheaded people in here didn't catch that part did you? But you was quick to flame me over my actions, instead of reading between the lines. I'm not surprised.
thehead Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Hey, I've done the intelligent humor and teasing, and it got me nowhere but polite smiles but never a number. I'll get excuses instead. So why should I bother anymore with these pretty girls' BS? Anyway, what I did was an experiment. I dont do this to normal people on regular days, just did it to her because I noticed how she totally ignored the guy before me who was being nice. Obviously you boneheaded people in here didn't catch that part did you? But you was quick to flame me over my actions, instead of reading between the lines. I'm not surprised. That was a straight up d1ck move I don't care who you did it to or why.
PhillyDude Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Turning your back to any customer no matter your supposed level of attractiveness, what you are doing, or how unappealing you find the customer is rude and shows you are a little too full of yourself to be in such a position. You should be cordial and outgoing to all guests. I never did what she did when I worked in retail except maybe when I had multiple customers to juggle. A customer noticing her disrespect and giving it back to her might get her to realize what she is doing wrong so she can correct her behavior. Many times it isn't until after others act badly do we realize how we were no better. I don't find her to be that incompetent. Much of the store looks the same and is filled with miscellaneous household goods. I have been in a few targets quite a few times and it doesn't become any easier finding all items. It's human nature for a person in customer service to be more helpful to someone they find attractive.
thehead Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 You are free to continue to do this but I doubt it will help you land your starcruiser on the hoverdeck of the USS HOTTIE. It will only make you feel better in the short run but life is no sprint. Hey there buddy!
Author Shaun-Dro Posted May 8, 2011 Author Posted May 8, 2011 You are free to continue to do this but I doubt it will help you land your starcruiser on the hoverdeck of the USS HOTTIE. It will only make you feel better in the short run but life is no sprint. I honestly don't think I was that bad. I was a jerk a little bit, yes, but not ridiculously so, in my opinion. I just gave this snot-nose girl a taste of her own medicine . I'm not really looking for anyone right now because I've come to accept that in NYC the women are all impossible, and no man really has a chance with them because of their mentality. One of the reasons that after I do my 2 year internship which starts this winter, I will relocate for a chance at better success. I'm strongly considering Canada. I'm a cold kind of guy.
salty goodness Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 My first job as a teenager was in CS i don't think people realize how many creepy guys, a lot of them much older, who take advantage of the situation to hit on you and make pretty gross comments. It would not surprise me one bit if that girl had had enough of guys chatting her up and just wanted to do her job and not be bothered. imo there is no excuse for what the poster did, belitteling people while they are trying to go about their business and earn a paycheck is a pretty rotten thing to do.
Darren Taylor Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Perhaps but I never did that. I find that to be wrong. It's wrong, but it happens and most do it(subconsciously or not). And it doesn't even have to involve the opposite gender. Yesterday, I went into Foot Locker. I was there for 10-15 seconds tops and someone came over to help me. About a minute later, a second employee came and did the same. Yet I saw a customer walk in and I saw only one employee go to assist him and it took quite awhile for him to do it.
Author Shaun-Dro Posted May 8, 2011 Author Posted May 8, 2011 I more often shun people I find attractive so I have the opposite issue which I hope I am trying to work against. Why do you resort to shunning the attractive people when you're out and about?
Author Shaun-Dro Posted May 8, 2011 Author Posted May 8, 2011 My first job as a teenager was in CS i don't think people realize how many creepy guys, a lot of them much older, who take advantage of the situation to hit on you and make pretty gross comments. It would not surprise me one bit if that girl had had enough of guys chatting her up and just wanted to do her job and not be bothered. imo there is no excuse for what the poster did, belitteling people while they are trying to go about their business and earn a paycheck is a pretty rotten thing to do. I, in no way, belittled the Target girl. I just let it be known without having to actually do anything, that any attitude on her part will not be tolerated by me.
thehead Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 I more often shun people I find attractive so I have the opposite issue which I hope I am trying to work against. Why do you resort to shunning the attractive people when you're out and about?I'd like to know that myself Begin Again/Devil's Advocate/Always Looking Back/The Body/Disinterested.
salty goodness Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 I, in no way, belittled the Target girl. I just let it be known without having to actually do anything, that any attitude on her part will not be tolerated by me. i can only go by your comments and imo you were beyond rude to her for no real reason. I love Target but i don't shop there for the customer service
Author Shaun-Dro Posted May 8, 2011 Author Posted May 8, 2011 I don't know. It is a reflex I guess. I don't feel comfortable around them perhaps. Is that a photo of you? What would you consider yourself?
Author Shaun-Dro Posted May 8, 2011 Author Posted May 8, 2011 i can only go by your comments and imo you were beyond rude to her for no real reason. I love Target but i don't shop there for the customer service What was so rude about asking her directly to tell me where the scales are in a serious tone of voice? Because she was cute, I was supposed to smile and flirt with her? NOT! She got what she deserved.
Enchanted Girl Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Maybe that works in NYC, but every guy who has ever been rude to me before asking me out I've said no to and when they asked why, I gave that as the reason. I've been told I was fat before being asked out, been told that I am stupid before being asked out, been told I was easy to manipulate before being asked out, and also been told that I was someone's last choice before being asked out. I got sick to my stomach when those people said those things to me and immediately said no to them. Because their personalities made them hideous individuals.
mr.dream merchant Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 It seems to me that you've certainly confused the "good" mean from the "bad" mean. "Good" mean to me would be something along the lines of not feeding her ego like a good percentage of men probably do. "Good" mean can also be something like being a strong, not easily persuaded man of a certain code of conduct and demeanor, not easily victim to beauty and lust. That's the mean that would probably attract more women to you, as they'll see you as a strong man who's more of a challenge, not an easy hormone driven creature who'll jump at the first sign of a lay. What you've described in your encounter was probably a bit much. You didn't really sell that "I'm not easily impressed by your beauty" act the way you wanted to. She probably thinks you're an angry, bitter, and unfit man. I'd like to applaud your efforts though. It takes a certain kind of comfortability and adventurous feel to employ different tactics. I myself am the same way. It's fun to experiment in the dating world, especially if you know there will always be female suitors to experiment with. Best of luck to you in the future OP.
sanskrit Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 The hilarious irony of this thread is that had OP been a woman, the clerk would not have been shaken at all as everyone expects women customers to be rude, when a man does it it's like cognitive dissonance. Had various retail jobs growing up, and have owned stores later in life. Women are the rude, problem customers, almost never men. We all know this, particularly those who have worked retail. Go in an auto parts or hardware store and measure the politeness of the clientele versus say that in a women's clothing, shoe or decor store. The difference in attitude and rudeness of customers is absolutely amazing. I will never again own a retail venture where women are the primary customers, the hassle of dealing with female customers is simply not worth it.
Kamille Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 The hilarious irony of this thread is that had OP been a woman, the clerk would not have been shaken at all as everyone expects women customers to be rude, when a man does it it's like cognitive dissonance. Had various retail jobs growing up, and have owned stores later in life. Women are the rude, problem customers, almost never men. We all know this, particularly those who have worked retail. Go in an auto parts or hardware store and measure the politeness of the clientele versus say that in a women's clothing, shoe or decor store. The difference in attitude and rudeness of customers is absolutely amazing. I will never again own a retail venture where women are the primary customers, the hassle of dealing with female customers is simply not worth it. Funny, I worked in customer service and never noticed much of a difference between men and women. If anything, the only time I can recall a client being rude to me, he was a man. Now, thanks to this thread, I know he was probably just hitting on me.
Darren Taylor Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 The hilarious irony of this thread is that had OP been a woman, the clerk would not have been shaken at all as everyone expects women customers to be rude, when a man does it it's like cognitive dissonance. Had various retail jobs growing up, and have owned stores later in life. Women are the rude, problem customers, almost never men. We all know this, particularly those who have worked retail. Go in an auto parts or hardware store and measure the politeness of the clientele versus say that in a women's clothing, shoe or decor store. The difference in attitude and rudeness of customers is absolutely amazing. I will never again own a retail venture where women are the primary customers, the hassle of dealing with female customers is simply not worth it. Having been in a womens retail store myself, I attest to this. Though I wouldn't say they're necessarily more rude. I don't think rude is the right term, but definitely more catty and difficult. I'll also say that women very easily go from zero to apesh*t. It doesn't take much to set them off.
LeaningIntoTheMuse Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 I wouldn't say I've noticed a difference between the genders. In fact, I've worked retail, and women have been just as nice to me as men. It's on an individual basis. Plus, I'm guessing that most women that are rude are on their periods.
LeaningIntoTheMuse Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Most of those women in my experience were 50+ Then it's their personalities. Someone who was rude at age 18 might still be rude at 50. Haven't you ever seen those kind and sweet looking grandmas, who open their mouths and insult you?
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