NoMagicBullet Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 I know the cynics will come out of the woodwork to refute this one, but for eveyone who's not a die-hard cynic yet, I thought this was a great article about work and relationships: 3 Huge Reasons I'd Rather Be With My Working-Class Boyfriend Than a Rich Guy
collegeguy_24 Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 That is great... IF the woman does the pursuing. I hate to say it, but a man who has to do the pursuing and also earns less than the woman will ALWAYS be at a disadvantage, he will always have the lower hand in the relationship. I'm currently reading to become a welder, thats a typical working class job, getting paid by the hour and working in an industrial setting... But I would never ever pursue a woman who earns more than me, I'd only pursue women who earns roughly about the same as me or less. I am curious Wayne, would you mind explaining your reasoning in a bit more detail? Would you not pursue a woman who makes more then you because its a pride thing? I know plenty of guys who don't because of that very reason so I'm not singling you out, I am just curious. Personally, I have no problem dating a woman who makes more then me. I can see how it would be a bit uncomfortable, but its something I could live with as the paycheck is not what I look first in a woman. I look at appearance and personality first, as well as other mental faculties.
lemonlegs Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 That was a great article! As a 19-year-old girl currently in University and dating a guy who works in a factory as an Manufacturing Engineering Technician, I always wondered if I would end up finding a guy who's more likely to be a rich professional when done school. But that's so true.
Jazzari Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 Terrible article. I don't agree at all and I've known alot of rich men. Perhaps the difference is that most of the wealthy men I know are in the computer industry. Fun - The article claims you have to adhere to certain image and watch their public profile. Baloney! There's no such thing as appropriate hobbies and acceptable political aspirations with those I've known. Very few golf for instance. And far from being the nerds of old - these guys are a ton of fun. The article also claims they can't be unconventional. Unconventional is the hallmark of the computer industry and highly prized. Happy - The article claims you can't be happy with a high pressure job. My husband tried to retire in his late 30s. He was miserable and eventually went back to work. People who are rich tend to be very intelligent. They *like* the work and the challenges. They are very happy with what they do. And very often, their work is their own personal projects. Sexy - I guess you can't be sexy unless you dig a ditch according to the article. Being wealthy gives you the opportunity to join an exclusive club, have your own home gym or partake in sports that are physically challenging. It also gives you the money to have those teeth fixed and get a nice tan in the tropics. Being wealthy does not mean you aren't sexy. As for community ties, all the men I've known have had extremely tight ones. I could go on and on. I don't think this article got even one thing right. If she wants a working class man, that's great. I have nothing against them. But you don't have to try and knock down the rich guys just to make yourself feel better.
carhill Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 An anecdote from real life: One of the guys who worked with me on our last bathroom remodel was a Wilhelmina model as a teen and is currently working on an agribusiness law degree. He pays for his 'fun' while in college by doing what his now deceased father taught him; working in the contracting trades. With us, he was doing rough and finish carpentry and some tile work. He's a hard worker and enjoys the work, but understands the toll it takes on one's body, so is working on a career where he can use his mind. He was genetically blessed with a beautiful body and face but they aren't where his happiness lies. No doubt, they've opened doors for him, but it's the intelligent young man with the healthy work ethic which makes him a pleasure to be around and to work with. I noted in the article that the woman really didn't comment on her working man boyfriend's attractiveness. This physical attraction is usually the first and strongest motivation for being with/getting to know a person, regardless of what they do. I do know, if you stood myself and the three or four other guys working on that particular job with me, all millionaires in their own right and very successful and happy in life, up next to Chris (my young friend), women of all ages would plow us right over to get at him. All I had to do was watch those mens wives reactions to know that. Last but not least, he was smarter than any of us. He got paid. We did our work for free As far as the article goes, having worked in the blue collar world my entire life and having come from a white collar family, I saw a lot of truth in the perceptions of the author regarding the dynamics of stereotypical blue collar life. My exW often commented that I have blue collar hands and a white collar mind. I don't know whether that was a compliment or not but, whatever it was, evidently it didn't fit into what she wanted out of life. Hope this lady has found what she wants.
gaius Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 One of the most beautiful girls I ever ran across had a father who worked in construction. She worked as a nurse and full access to a wide range of wealthy doctors, lawyers and many other upper class gentlemen but passed them all over for a tradesman. The author of that article isn't alone.
Woggle Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 I work in a white collar world but prefer hanging out with working class types. There was a time in my life when I was near homeless and did things I am not proud of to survive so I will always be loyal to people doing what it takes to to survive.
TheBigQuestion Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 I'm a law student and I'm miserable enough as it is. The thought of spending the rest of my days coming home to an equally stressed professional woman is not all that appealing. I'd say that my social group has elements of both white collar and blue collar life, especially since a college degree doesn't make it all that easy to get a profitable white collar job. Most of the friends I went to college with (who also graduated) are either in between jobs, working a somewhat dead-end white collar job, or are doing something along the lines of restaurant work/bartending/retail. They occasionally complain about their lives. I'm sure the complaints are legitimate, but I very frequently envy them because their lives are pretty easy in comparison to mine. The worst part is, it's not like 90%+ of law degrees are worth much of anything nowadays either.
Woggle Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 When is the Hallmark movie of your life story coming out? It isn't but I have made me distaste for yuppies evident on this board.
dreamingoftigers Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 When is the Hallmark movie of your life story coming out? Yikes......INCOMING!
dreamingoftigers Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 This article is a joke. The chick who wrote it will dump this guy the first chance she gets for a sexually attractive guy who makes a lot more money. And if need be, she will cheat with some high powered married guy if she can't find one of her own. Highly competitive women, esp. lawyers, just don't respect men who make radically less money than they do. It's part of their status-oriented mentality, which this chick is obviously highly sensitive to. What the article is really all about is this chick's obsession with status, and her bf's lack of it. If she didn't care so much about it, it wouldn't have warranted an article. "Denial" is all over this. Yes, universally we all have the exact same nature and cannot be trusted to make our own decisions.
Woggle Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 This article is a joke. The chick who wrote it will dump this guy the first chance she gets for a sexually attractive guy who makes a lot more money. And if need be, she will cheat with some high powered married guy if she can't find one of her own. Highly competitive women, esp. lawyers, just don't respect men who make radically less money than they do. It's part of their status-oriented mentality, which this chick is obviously highly sensitive to. What the article is really all about is this chick's obsession with status, and her bf's lack of it. If she didn't care so much about it, it wouldn't have warranted an article. "Denial" is all over this. This is not true. I work with yuppies and hang our with blue collar guys and I can tell you now that the blue collar guys tend to have much happier marriages and relationships. The ones that managed to start their own business also make as much money as the yuppies in some cases.
orangelady Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 not true in where I live. Nobody really would settle for a working class guy (are you kidding me) yeah the name says it all - WORKING CLASS if they have the choice to go for a rich man. Money isn't everything, but everything is money.
linwood Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 I am curious Wayne, would you mind explaining your reasoning in a bit more detail? Be careful what you wish for. That was a great article.
dreamingoftigers Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 not true in where I live. Nobody really would settle for a working class guy (are you kidding me) yeah the name says it all - WORKING CLASS if they have the choice to go for a rich man. Money isn't everything, but everything is money. Hun you live in one of two potential places. In the Northern possibility I cannot see this being universal especially with the dynamics economically being so close to my own city. In the second possibility I can see it due to the resounding area being somewhat impoverished and having just undergone a revolution.
musemaj11 Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 (edited) Lol, what a fairytale. The writer of the article is merely going through a phase. Akin to those rebellious girls of a rich family who go against their parents wishes and go on to date their nobody bad boy boyfriends. I wont be surprised if this woman is not the prettiest dress in the closet (hot girls wont have enough time to study to earn a law degree). And now she is trying to relive her high school and college years since she now has the money to make herself over. But in the end she will not be able to overcome her innate desire. The reason she has been shooting down the other suitors is probably because they were old, fat and bald rich men. Give her an average looking richer guy and she will drop her boyfriend in the next second. Edited April 28, 2011 by musemaj11
OliveOyl Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 Maybe it's a security thing. If she is "higher class" than her BF, she might think he would be less likely to dump her. She doesn't have to compete like she would for a good looking, rich guy in her socio-economic class.
musemaj11 Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 And what if she doesn't? How will you account for it if she is still with this guy in her 60's? A fluke? Havent you heard of the man who survived 1000-foot fall down a mountain? Maybe it's a security thing. If she is "higher class" than her BF, she might think he would be less likely to dump her. She doesn't have to compete like she would for a good looking, rich guy in her socio-economic class. Chances are you are right. Its like those men who date down because they think hot women are cheaters. Its not because they dont want them. Its because they dont think they are good enough to keep hot women interested in a long run.
Sivok Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 So I don't get it. Is this article supposed to be informative, or merely a woman with a voice defending her personal life? That's fine and dandy listing what she likes about her man, but slandering white collar workers with lame stereotypes? Seems like the only wealthy people she knows are those from movies. Then again, I suppose miss lawyer wouldn't get much hype over an article titled 'my bf moves furniture and im his sugar momma, **** off'
alethean Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 So I don't get it. Is this article supposed to be informative, or merely a woman with a voice defending her personal life? That's fine and dandy listing what she likes about her man, but slandering white collar workers with lame stereotypes? Seems like the only wealthy people she knows are those from movies. Then again, I suppose miss lawyer wouldn't get much hype over an article titled 'my bf moves furniture and im his sugar momma, **** off' I'm going to agree that the tone of the article is a bit defensive. It's nice that she has a working class guy and all, but what is the purpose of this article? To say "oh, I have a blue collar boyfriend, I'm special; give me kudos"? And who cares whether or not she's an evolutionary failure? She's an individual and evolved enough to make her own decisions. I fail to see why she felt the need to write this article. She doesn't need to defend her relationship choices to anyone. I really rather would have read "my boyfriend moves furniture and I'm his sugar momma. Eff off." Lol.
Jynxx Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 When I was in university getting an engineering degree, most people were in it for the love of practical science, inventing things, finding solutions to problems etc. Some were in it for nothing but the title. I was in it for the lack of a better idea. Some small minority (that would be classified as creeps by most of you but who were just normal people not very good with social skills) were in because it seemed like the easiest guaranteed way to make money and status and get a girl that way. Isn't that the saddest thing you've heard? Society tricked them into working their asses off and contributing to humanity in return for the pipedream of getting someone to love them, which obviously didn't happen after they graduated. But they did end up getting high paid jobs, being usefull to society and getting material crap to get their minds of how miserable their live was. Now imagine those people read and believed the article. Obviously they would believe they could get a girl if they got a job as a [insert working job]. Their live would still be miserable, they would be equally lonely but without the Ferrari in the driveway to divert their attention from it. Some of them would develop a drug habbit to escape from their problems. In short they would be less useful for society. Rereading my post, I realise it actually doesn't have a point. When is the Hallmark movie of your life story coming out? And shoutout to this guy. Best gimmick account in a while. Try to keep it up man, you're hilarious:laugh:
utterer of lies Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 I know the cynics will come out of the woodwork to refute this one, but for eveyone who's not a die-hard cynic yet, I thought this was a great article about work and relationships: 3 Huge Reasons I'd Rather Be With My Working-Class Boyfriend Than a Rich Guy She doesn't really mention the true reason for dating down: "I want to be in control, to be the dominant partner, and that's easier when all purchasing power is in my hands."
jane100 Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 The article is quite interesting and sweet. But the LS responses are really interesting. I myself have never had a blue-collar b/f, but I can't say I've had white-collar really either (in terms of office-based, career-ladder), just intelligent men with strange jobs. Perhaps thats part of my downfall! But I can see the appeal - its never too late !
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