weedsandposies Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Hypothetically (or maybe this happened to you) if you had sex with your girl over and over, didn't use condoms and got her pregnant, would you ask her to have an abortion? Be honest, no judgement. Girls, were you in a situation like this? Thanks
Rinnix Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 That's a consequence of not using protection. I would assume most people are smart enough to use at least one method if they don't want kids. If it were my case, I would own up to it. I chose not to be safe, therefore I am brining a child into the world. Assuming that I was financially set and can care for a child (and that the child was healthy), I would keep it. If I wasn't financially set, I would work my way to be, as children always are first priority. If the man would bail, there isn't much I can do (other then get child support), but I would still be 100% willing to provide for my child as it takes two to be intimate. I'm Pro-choice by the way. And this situation has never happened to me, and hopefully will not.
Eddie Edirol Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 ABSOLUTELY. I would at least try. I am totally against bringing children into this world with a broken situation when it can be avoided. Too many screwed up people in this world, and on this board as is. No need to make more.
Jazzari Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 I'm against abortion so I would have the child. If I wasn't able to care for the baby, then I would put it up for adoption. No baby should have to die just because I made a mistake.
Kamille Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Dude, send me your address, I'll ship you a box of condoms. Re: ask her to have an abortion, talk about the options. But be open to hearing her out. And from now on, fook responsibly.
skydiveaddict Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 ABSOLUTELY. I would at least try. I am totally against bringing children into this world with a broken situation when it can be avoided. So you will just kill it instead?
Star Gazer Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 If a guy EVER asked me to abort a pregnancy, even if it was already my intention to do so, I'd never speak to him again.
fortyninethousand322 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 This sounds exactly like one of my friends (minus the abortion part, that I don't know). Whenever he talks about sex, he always claims he never uses condoms, but I never asked him if his girlfriend was on anything. But, now his girlfriend is pregnant. Thankfully for them, he's got a good place to live and a good job so no real money issues.
Jazzari Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 If a guy EVER asked me to abort a pregnancy, even if it was already my intention to do so, I'd never speak to him again. Retro-active abortion is the only form of abortion I agree with. Perfect for situations such as this one. (Yes, I'm kidding. But still.)
Eddie Edirol Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 So you will just kill it instead? Abosolutely. I of course dont really take such chances, aIve been smart so far. But I always establish with my women what her views are about children before I get serious. I usually stick with women who dont want children, or at least they say they do. I hate people who try to romanticize the kids future instead of seeing the reality. And if a woman decides that the relationship isnt strong enough to get past the abortion talk, good riddens.
skydiveaddict Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 I hate people who try to romanticize the kids future instead of seeing the reality. And if a woman decides that the relationship isnt strong enough to get past the abortion talk, good riddens. Oh I see, you can magically see into this kid's future. At at least you're honest about killing babies who aren't convenient for you.
Eddie Edirol Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Oh I see, you can magically see into this kid's future. At at least you're honest about killing babies who aren't convenient for you. Convenience is a beautiful thing. There are doctors who specialize in helping you avoid ruining your life - or ruining a future embryo's life.
Fondue Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Oh I see, you can magically see into this kid's future. At at least you're honest about killing babies who aren't convenient for you. If it's early in the pregnancy, it's not much of a "baby." It's more or less a "cyst." You're not really killing anything. You're just removing a growing mass. As far as the original topic... I would first make sure it is mine. I will do investigatory work, a paternity test if possible (if she refuses, I will automatically assume it isn't mine), and generally try to prove that it isn't mine. If it is, then I think it would be reasonable to discuss abortion. In the end, it IS her decision. I would never put myself in that situation. No matter what birth control method she is on, I will use a condom regardless (think of getting a vasectomy too, actually). But again, if it was to happen, I would discuss it. If she doesn't want to, then I'm out of luck. Funny thing. I am actually really damn good with kids and everyone comments on my natural "fathering skills." I babysit really often, but I absolutely do not want children of my own. Not for me. Anyone who has enough patience have a child(or children) is a better person than I. I can only be around a kid(s) for so long before wanting to go and shoot myself...
skydiveaddict Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Convenience is a beautiful thing. There are doctors who specialize in helping you avoid ruining your life - or ruining a future embryo's life. Now you're making me laugh. In your last post it was a "kid", now it's an "embryo" (true enough). But why don't you answer my question? Who are you to decide who lives or dies?
Eddie Edirol Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 (edited) Now you're making me laugh. In your last post it was a "kid", now it's an "embryo" (true enough). But why don't you answer my question? Who are you to decide who lives or dies? Who are you to try to qualify me? I dont think so. I can decide if I want to encourage the removal of an embryo. i wouldnt try to force a woman to do it, I hear its painful. Like PAINFUL. That, and I have stock in the tools they use. I'd say the names, but theyre a lil disturbing. Edited April 17, 2011 by Eddie Edirol
skydiveaddict Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 If it's early in the pregnancy, it's not much of a "baby." It's more or less a "cyst." You're not really killing anything. You're just removing a growing mass. A "cyst" ? It's called a zygote. It is a unique cell that has 48 chromosomes which contain all the DNA of who you were then and who you are today.
Fondue Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 A "cyst" ? It's called a zygote. It is a unique cell that has 48 chromosomes which contain all the DNA of who you were then and who you are today. Clearly, you misunderstood. We all know what it actually is, but at that early stage in the pregnancy, it might as well be considered a cyst. It's just a bunch of sells expanding and growing inside of you. You're not gonna convince anyone of anything. And neither am I. We both have different views. No need to argue about it. We figured it out, you think abortion is murder. Let's get past this now, please. Oh, and by the way, it's 46chromosomes .
makelemonade1974 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Her body. Her decision. If you ask her to abort and she is your girlfriend, prepare to be dumped. I'm with Star Gazer on this one. If you ask her to abort. You. Are. An. A s s.
TheLoneSock Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Now of days it is so easy to prevent pregnancy that the only reason I can see for a girl to get pregnant is because she wants to be. Between birth control, condoms and pulling out - there shouldn't be any excuse. I can only assume that if she does get pregnant, she chose to. In which case she would not want to abort it - so asking her to would just be a d*ck move. So in short, no, I would not ask her to abort.
skydiveaddict Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Who are you to try to qualify me? I dont think so. I can decide if I want to encourage the removal of an embryo. i wouldnt try to force a woman to do it, I hear its painful. Like PAINFUL. That, and I have stock in the tools they use. I'd say the names, but theyre a lil disturbing. I would never try to qualify you. You've done a very good job of it all by yourself. You're even too chicken**** to name these tools you you invest in
Eddie Edirol Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 I would never try to qualify you. You've done a very good job of it all by yourself. You're even too chicken**** to name these tools you you invest in if you actually believed that I have stock in abortion tools, I have a bridge I can sell ya. Youre one of those gullible guys that attacks abortion doctors, arent you?
Lilmisus Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 I'm very against abortions, so I wouldn't talk to the guy again if he asked me to do that. I'd have the child, and keep the father out of the picture. I feel that if there's a chance of nice, healthy life, then it's wrong to end it. Not just with abortions, but with those on life support or those who are considered brain dead. Only if it affects your life (like it has a chance of killing you when they're born or something) then is it okay to even think about it. But that's just where I stand. Everyone feels differently.
Stung Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 If it's early in the pregnancy, it's not much of a "baby." It's more or less a "cyst." You're not really killing anything. You're just removing a growing mass. As far as the original topic... I would first make sure it is mine. I will do investigatory work, a paternity test if possible (if she refuses, I will automatically assume it isn't mine), and generally try to prove that it isn't mine. If it is, then I think it would be reasonable to discuss abortion. In the end, it IS her decision. I would never put myself in that situation. No matter what birth control method she is on, I will use a condom regardless (think of getting a vasectomy too, actually). But again, if it was to happen, I would discuss it. If she doesn't want to, then I'm out of luck. Funny thing. I am actually really damn good with kids and everyone comments on my natural "fathering skills." I babysit really often, but I absolutely do not want children of my own. Not for me. Anyone who has enough patience have a child(or children) is a better person than I. I can only be around a kid(s) for so long before wanting to go and shoot myself... FYI, it is not possible to test for paternity until the 10th week of pregnancy at the absolute earliest, and that is nearing the end of the first trimester, at which point non-surgical abortion is no longer an option. Also, the only possible methods of testing for paternity during pregnancy (Chorionic Villi Sampling and Amniocentesis) are both invasive and carry risks of infection, damage to the fetus, and miscarriage. Very few well-informed women who want to carry a baby to term will agree to prenatal paternity testing. You can assume whatever you like, but a refusal to have invasive prenatal paternity testing likely will have nothing to do with whether you are the father or not, and you can still get slapped with a paternity suit after the birth. Condoms, boys. Learn to love them.
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