one goal Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 So I decided to email her and be honest about everything I did and how I apologized to the teacher. Anyways here is her reply. Whew. Since it did not go further, and it appears the teacher did not tell her so are things better than what I thought? If I lay low and over the summer is it possible maybe she will still give me a slight shot? I mean even just a two percent chance. Thanks for the email but it appears you have handled the situation and no intervention is needed by me, as Chair of the Department. Thank you again.
fortyninethousand322 Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 For those of us unfamiliar with the inner workings of your life... can you give a Cliffs? Seriously you don't want to know. OP just move on. Or, better yet, get some counseling because this is getting really out of hand.
oaks Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 For those of us unfamiliar with the inner workings of your life... can you give a Cliffs? He's a troll with a story about unrequited love for his hot teacher.
Mrlonelyone Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 You do realize that as a student it is ethically questionable at best for a instructor or professor to date you at all right? I have ran into this issue from the other side. I am a graduate student at a university there are plenty of young available people there... but it would be an ethical grey area at best for me to date any of them. So I avoid it. Just forget about dating an instructor, especially one you take a course from.
Author one goal Posted April 13, 2011 Author Posted April 13, 2011 Seriously you don't want to know. OP just move on. Or, better yet, get some counseling because this is getting really out of hand. True. I got one month to go and semester is over. I'm taking one summer class and then I'll be off to the university. I just got to hang in there one more month.
fortyninethousand322 Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 You do realize that as a student it is ethically questionable at best for a instructor or professor to date you at all right? I have ran into this issue from the other side. I am a graduate student at a university there are plenty of young available people there... but it would be an ethical grey area at best for me to date any of them. So I avoid it. Just forget about dating an instructor, especially one you take a course from. I've read your other posts about this grey area for you. To be honest I don't think this is a grey area at all. I go to a university that's primarily a commuter school with a large population of graduate and law students. Undergrads and graduate students date all the time. Of course though, don't do anything you're not comfortable doing.
waynesworld Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 I think you should ask the Department Chair out, via email of course.
EyesWideOpen Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 For those of us unfamiliar with the inner workings of your life... can you give a Cliffs? HA. Everything you need to know is right here: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t272681/ Major troll alert. This guy isn't for real.
Art_Critic Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 I think you should ask the Department Chair out, via email of course. That's what I was thinking.. or better yet ask them both for a 3 way Is the Dept Chair Hot ?..
BeginAgain Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 I've read your other posts about this grey area for you. To be honest I don't think this is a grey area at all. I go to a university that's primarily a commuter school with a large population of graduate and law students. Undergrads and graduate students date all the time. Of course though, don't do anything you're not comfortable doing. I think he was assuming all Grads were TA's.
EyesWideOpen Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 I think you should ask the Department Chair out, via email of course. :lmao::lmao: I agree. But not with the email suggestion. He should do it by showing up at the Dept. Chair's office with two dozen red roses and a witty little poem.
Kamille Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 I believe most Universities have policies similar to this one when it comes to relationships between Faculty and students. http://wustl.edu/policies/consent.html Basically, a person in a positions of authority (professor, TAs, etc) should avoid entering in a relationship with a student. Should a relationship develop, the person in a position of authority is responsible for terminating the position of authority, by transferring their responsibilities to another professor. Basically, it isn't up to the student to transfer or drop out, but up to the figure of authority to take the measures necessary, thus possibly penalizing themselves (if, for instance, the relationship developped in the course of a class or a TA relationship, and not in the course of an advisory relationship (where these breaches are significantly more frequent). The faulty authority figure loses credits and the value they hold towards tenure or sabbatical. Alternatively, as a TA, the TA might lose income and the possibility to be rehired. Should the person in a position of authority fail to comply, than the department will take disciplinary measures against the person of authority. In other words, professors, TAs, sole position lectures pay the price for engaging in relationships with students, not students.
SweetDaphne Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 Kamille - did you really just post a serious answer to this thread? You feeling ok, hun?
Mrlonelyone Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 I've read your other posts about this grey area for you. To be honest I don't think this is a grey area at all. I go to a university that's primarily a commuter school with a large population of graduate and law students. Undergrads and graduate students date all the time. Of course though, don't do anything you're not comfortable doing. I can also cite instances of professors dating students. That does not change the fact that it's ethically questionable. (I'm pretty sure those students consider this and try to avoid dating people in their same department. That's where these "theoretical" concerns become all too real. Never the less they are playing with fire. Sometimes people get burned. http://ethicsalarms.com/2010/04/26/a-blogger-asks-why-cant-i-date-my-professor-after-the-grades-are-in/ http://www.urch.com/forums/phd-economics/80315-there-no-p-h-d-romance-graduate-student-dating-conundrum.html)
One Goal's Dad Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 So I decided to email her and be honest about everything I did and how I apologized to the teacher. Anyways here is her reply. Whew. Since it did not go further, and it appears the teacher did not tell her so are things better than what I thought? If I lay low and over the summer is it possible maybe she will still give me a slight shot? I mean even just a two percent chance. My son is trolling again.
BeginAgain Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 These rules are completely antiquated. They are meant to prevent female students getting it on with male teachers to protect the girl's virginity except all of the girls at that level of education are horrible whores.
Lilmisus Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 "Don't ask her out, don't do it! Oh...he did it.." "Don't mention it again to her? Oh you already did? Twice? Never mind then.." "Don't e-mail her that twentieth e-mail, leave her alone! Oh..and there he goes again.." "Don't go to authorities. Drop it already." And you went to authorities. The point of asking for advice is...? You have yet to follow any of it. Once again. Insanity, I say. Or you just followed my advice and gave us something new to work with in your made up tale. If that's the case, thanks! But how about try something different next time, that's more unexpected? Like..have a cop pull you over one day, arrest you, and have you think she's totally hot so you ask her out as she puts the cuffs on you? Then you get charged with sexual harassment as well, or something? Seriously, you can do better trollin' than this. I could do better than this, and I've never tried it before. By now you should be a pro at it yet it's not showing.
fortyninethousand322 Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 I can also cite instances of professors dating students. That does not change the fact that it's ethically questionable. (I'm pretty sure those students consider this and try to avoid dating people in their same department. That's where these "theoretical" concerns become all too real. Never the less they are playing with fire. Sometimes people get burned. http://ethicsalarms.com/2010/04/26/a-blogger-asks-why-cant-i-date-my-professor-after-the-grades-are-in/ http://www.urch.com/forums/phd-economics/80315-there-no-p-h-d-romance-graduate-student-dating-conundrum.html) Well I think even objectively one could conclude that dating a professor is a conflict of interest at the very least. I think the reason why so many grads/undergrads date each other at my school is that we're such a large university (32,000+ by last count) with over 13,000 graduate students, in the middle of the suburbs; people often meet each other off campus without even realizing that they both actually go to the same school. Also, many of the upper level classes are interchangeable between grad/undergrad (due to cross-listing) and between multiple departments. For example Govt 345 (political Islam) is a course grads and undergrads from various departments (Religious Studies, Middle East Studies, Government, International Development, Anthropology etc.) can take. So you can be enrolled in courses with people not even in your department, thus taking a lot of the ethical dilemma part away. My school might be a little unique in that regard though.
Kamille Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 Kamille - did you really just post a serious answer to this thread? You feeling ok, hun? My post was meant as a clarification to fortyninethousand322's post on the "grey" area. People in positions of authority shouldn't engage in consensual relationships with their pupils. Plain and simple. If they do, they have to relinquish the duties whereby they have authority over the student. This includes Teacher's assistants (i.e., grad students in positions of authority).
EyesWideOpen Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 *chokes on water* lmfao what? *blinks* So is this legitimate parental intervention and we can expect no more nonsense from the Goal family? Or has the troller really actually reverted to trolling from an alternate account? (about his own trolling nonetheless...lol) And now. A bunny...
denise_xo Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 My son is trolling again. That was almost worth this many pages long palaver. Please keep him in check from now on.
oaks Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 My son is trolling again. I hope you grounded him and cut his allowance.
Gala Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 From an academic who understands the language of dept. chairs and other administrators - the chair WILL be keeping an eye to see whether any action needs to taken in future.
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