carhill Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 "I'm selfish, impatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am out of control and at times hard to handle. But if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best." Can actually someone say this, and actually feel proud of themselves? What the hell is this world comin' to? LOL Would this person get along with another selfish, impatient, and another insecure person?Sure, they can say it with pride. Such words are a snapshot of their psyche at that moment in time. Norma Jean was blessed genetically with many outward assets; her image would build her a career and fame. Inside, that psyche would impel her to decline and death at a relatively young age, leaving an attractive corpse and forever freezing her image as a youthful and beautiful and, regretfully, troubled woman. She had love affairs with a number of powerful and attractive men; one could surmise the dynamics were other than patient and considerate, given the usual personalities of such men. Is it one example young women might aspire to? Sure. Myself, I was more into Lauren Bacall (on right, with MM on left); also a sometimes difficult and complex woman whose father was, much like MM's, notably missing from the majority of her early life, she projected a beauty of a completely different sort and her longevity in film and life (she's 86 now) would prove it to be a fruitful one. Perhaps young ladies could scrutinize her style and learn from it. Here's one of her many, many, quotable quotes, underscoring her dry wit: “God made woman beautiful and foolish; beautiful, that man might love her; and foolish, that she might love him”
dreamingoftigers Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 That is an awesome quote! The MM quote is one I have found where 90% of the friends etc that use it see the drama-seeking type and yes it seems to come across as an excuse.
carhill Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 If you liked that quote, watch this interview. Young women could learn a lot here. One can see, though the physical has faded somewhat with time, where true beauty comes from.
welikeincrowds Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 Here is an image collecting some of my favorite quotes.
Enchanted Girl Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 I always understood that quote to be linked to the ways in which Marilyn Monroe's image was split in two while she was alive. Studios invested in producing an image of her as pure arm candy, and many men sought to date her thinking she was pure arm candy. Much to their surprise, in her personal life, she wasn't all smiles and googly eyes. I think MM felt alienated in a lot of her relationships. Men only wanted to see one side of her and refused to accept the other. I'm not defending her - she had issues. But the one friend I have who cited that quote on her FB spent years with a man who consistently ignored her when she expressed her own needs in their relationship. This made the friend feel infuriated, feel like a nag, feel like she was at her worse. The way I see the quote, in this case, is a way for the friend to reclaim her dignity (post-break-up). So, in a way, I think you guys are being hasty in judging the girls who use that quote as all being drama-driven women who don't want to take responsibility for themselves. The type of relationship where men invalidate women's needs is somewhat frequent, especially in a society that promotes the ideal woman as pure arm candy, dedicated to pleasing her man, with no needs or brains of her own (aka, exactly the image the studios built for Marilyn Monroe). Why someone would put it on a dating profile is beyond me though. I agree dating profiles are about putting your best foot forward. I agree with everything you said. This is why I can debate someone in one thread and go to another and agree with them. They get confused by it though. People tend to demonize each other and assume that just because they got into an argument with one person, one time, they are forever the enemy. That's not the case. And I think I learned this a lot from my parents. They beat me growing up sometimes and called me possessed. But at the same time, they were there for me when no one else was at certain points in my life. I always sigh when I talk to therapists because they get confused when I try to explain to them that my upbringing was unique because my parents were some of the meanest people to me in my life and also some of the nicest. They think it has to be one or the other. In reality, most people are full of traits that make them do really bad things and also really good. I also want someone who can love me, even with an understanding that I'm a mixture of the two. It's something I worry about constantly with any boyfriend I have because I already know I'll accept them if I love them, even if they irritate me and piss me off occasionally.
GivenUp0083 Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 All this post is about is that the OP found a new girl on an online dating site that is in his geographical area. He keeps tabs on all of them, then emails them. When he doesn't hear a response, he reads their profile, finds something in the profile and makes fun of it or tries to point out to people on this forum how ridiculous it is. He does this usually about once a week, whenever a new girl pops up on his radar that didn't write back.
Crazy Magnet Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 The only quote I truly enjoy is: Well-behaved women seldom make history. ~Laurel Thatcher Ulrich It's kind of a personal motto. But I would never stick on a dating site. I'm sure the wrong definition of non well-behaved would be interpreted. As for the other quote. I've used it before. I've run into too many men who want the Barbie doll version of me. They don't want the dark parts, the parts that get sad, the parts that miss my Mom, etc. It gets frustrating after a while when you realize the man you are with likes you b/c you look nice on his arm. Bleh.
Engadget Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 Yeah it's obnoxious, I see it on Facebook almost every day.
elaina Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 I have admitted to the guy I like that I can be selfish at times, but that I'm growing and hopefully more and more mature and I don't want to be selfish or immature or mean or rude. I'm not perfect, but I'm working on becoming as "perfect" as I can be, though yeah I fall down sometimes. He says he's not perfect either and at least I'm honest. This quote from Marilyn Monroe is good in that she is being honest about herself. It would be worse I'd think to say "I'm perfect, always nice, eternally kind, never lose my temper, never say things I shouldn't..." bla bla bla. Even though I'd never quote this quote of Marilyn Monroe, I appreciate its honesty and I don't see anything wrong with it, unless a person is proud of living like this and isn't working on changing and not being that way.
Hurtbunny Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 lOL so true - Right now, my best friend and about 5 other people I know have this quote on their page. First time I seen it I was like 'That's so cool', and now it is just plain embarrasing. But its still a great quote - just lost the effectiveness with its popularity.
Woggle Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 At least they advertise upfront that they are crazy. It's just an excuse for craziness that some people in general seem to revel in. This whole emo and angst culture actually disgusts me.
LeaningIntoTheMuse Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 It doesn't disgust me. A friend of mine has this quote on her Facebook...doesn't bother me. I actually like the quote. It's pretty relatable.
Woggle Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 I just don't like the idea of romanticizing depression and self destruction. Everybody has flaws but we should strive to be our best instead of glorifying our worst and women who live by quotes like this tend to revel in their worst qualities and wear them with pride. A bit off topic but I went on a date with one of these misery chicks once and I pissed her off when I told her Kurt Cobain went out like a coward.
Darren Taylor Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 I just don't like the idea of romanticizing depression and self destruction. Everybody has flaws but we should strive to be our best instead of glorifying our worst and women who live by quotes like this tend to revel in their worst qualities and wear them with pride. A bit off topic but I went on a date with one of these misery chicks once and I pissed her off when I told her Kurt Cobain went out like a coward. Cobain was murdered. Even the coroner said he had too much heroin in his system to operate a gun.
TheBigQuestion Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 I just don't like the idea of romanticizing depression and self destruction. Everybody has flaws but we should strive to be our best instead of glorifying our worst and women who live by quotes like this tend to revel in their worst qualities and wear them with pride. A bit off topic but I went on a date with one of these misery chicks once and I pissed her off when I told her Kurt Cobain went out like a coward. Agreed. That quote is obnoxiously overquoted, and I've never met a woman who had that in an online profile who wasn't a trainwreck. People would do better to stop using things other people said and/or created to express themselves altogether.
Author irc333 Posted April 8, 2011 Author Posted April 8, 2011 Um...no, I never wrote this woman....I just browse through profiles and see these trainwrecks, but never email these pychopaths. Though I do enjoy talking about them though. lol Seriously, dude, you seem to have some vendetta or crusade to "out" me in EVERY post I make...why is that? You even started a thread about me...which I find VERY disturbing. All this post is about is that the OP found a new girl on an online dating site that is in his geographical area. He keeps tabs on all of them, then emails them. When he doesn't hear a response, he reads their profile, finds something in the profile and makes fun of it or tries to point out to people on this forum how ridiculous it is. He does this usually about once a week, whenever a new girl pops up on his radar that didn't write back.
dreamingoftigers Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 Lol I don't know why, she was a hoe. So many girls who are only good for one thing.....farming.
MrNate Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 I just think of it as lame and unoriginal when someone posts that quote because it's so over used. In fact I think if I see it on one more emo girl's facebook I'll puke. I agree. Keywords: Lame and unoriginal. Handle you at your worst? Deserve you at your best? How about this: It makes me not want you at all. I'm not a babysitter.
GivenUp0083 Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 Um...no, I never wrote this woman....I just browse through profiles and see these trainwrecks, but never email these pychopaths. Though I do enjoy talking about them though. lol Seriously, dude, you seem to have some vendetta or crusade to "out" me in EVERY post I make...why is that? You even started a thread about me...which I find VERY disturbing. Wait a minute, you just said you don't do something, then said I wrote a threat about you saying something that you don't do? What? And c'mon dude, admit it, you emailed her, and she didn't email back and you cried.
Citizen Erased Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 Ugh I hate it. The poor dears have clearly not come across anything actually worth quoting. A book or two wouldn't go astray. But then, I don't want to be a drug ****ed manic depressant but we all have our preferences.
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