Bionic Me Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 If one had been so inclined, they could've watched our divorce online, from initial filing to final decree, over a period of 18 months or so. All one needed to do was search the dockets by name and then peruse the relevant actions on the docket. From types of filings/motions, one can often deduce the progress of the lawsuit and what direction it's taking. Information is a good thing I don't know whether the OP is referring to this 'record', but in Cali it's certainly possible to watch the entire divorce, at least the courthouse part. Also, a concluded lawsuit doesn't necessarily mean it's 'over'. That's just the legal part. The emotional part is much more nebulous. Case summary with Docket codes- not a divorce record. There is no divorce record if a person is not divorced. In Cali, most counties show the same. Unless your divorce is written in stone, there will be history on the petition, that's all. You got a divorce, therefore you have a divorce record could have stayed lingering as registered actions. Anyway, if the OP seems to fall for everything this man tells her yet delivers none. Good luck!
Author Irishlove Posted April 13, 2011 Author Posted April 13, 2011 In my state when you file for a divorce it is public record from beginning to end. So yes I could see what was going on. About the hijacking, there was a conversation that didn't pertain my post. Also, I had just started this forum and didn't know where to post or this would be in the ow. Why are some people here nasty as can be? Is it because they can hide behind thier computer? I have to laugh because they have nothing else to do but freak out over a strangers post like they are a cyber attorney. lol:laugh:
Bionic Me Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 In my state when you file for a divorce it is public record from beginning to end. So yes I could see what was going on. About the hijacking, there was a conversation that didn't pertain my post. Also, I had just started this forum and didn't know where to post or this would be in the ow. Why are some people here nasty as can be? Is it because they can hide behind thier computer? I have to laugh because they have nothing else to do but freak out over a strangers post like they are a cyber attorney. lol:laugh: Even a cyber one wouldn't want your lost case. :lmao: Good luck with your MM that is married to money. That's one thing you can't compete against.
Author Irishlove Posted April 13, 2011 Author Posted April 13, 2011 Even a cyber one wouldn't want your lost case. :lmao: Good luck with your MM that is married to money. That's one thing you can't compete against. lmao really?
carhill Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 (edited) Case summary with Docket codes- not a divorce record. There is no divorce record if a person is not divorced. In Cali, most counties show the same. Unless your divorce is written in stone, there will be history on the petition, that's all. You got a divorce, therefore you have a divorce record could have stayed lingering as registered actions. Anyway, if the OP seems to fall for everything this man tells her yet delivers none. Good luck! You sound like a lawyer or someone who works in the legal system. I can tell because you pick nits. If the divorce filing has been input into the courthouse system, it's there. It exists. It isn't a done deal until the lawsuit is adjudicated or settled. EOS. One can track it online or at the courthouse as appropriate. When our case ended, the docket recorded 'marriage ends as of <date>' along with referral to record storage data. As an example, I found divorce dockets for one LS'er regarding her ex-husband as far back as 20 years ago. Interestingly, one divorce he said he had has not shown up. Was he really divorced when he married her? Unknown as of yet. Edited April 13, 2011 by carhill
Bionic Me Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 You sound like a lawyer or someone who works in the legal system. I can tell because you pick nits. If the divorce filing has been input into the courthouse system, it's there. It exists. It isn't a done deal until the lawsuit is adjudicated or settled. EOS. One can track it online or at the courthouse as appropriate. As an example, I found divorce dockets for one LS'er regarding her ex-husband as far back as 20 years ago. Interestingly, one divorce he said he had has not shown up. Was he really divorced when he married her? Unknown as of yet. It could be because of the time frame. Most states have different periods of records. Even changes by county, not so much just by state. His record could have been sealed by the courts. It's not always a public record. Was he really divorced when he married her? Depends when he married her! There are many clauses, in bigamy believe it or not due to technicality, presumed dead, etc. Nowadays systems are populated and linked to many other databases like the IRS, ICE, etc... Not that easy for someone to lie about their marital status as it was 20 yrs ago. We live in a post 911 era now. Sorry for the threadjack- (not hijack). Back to the op, yeah really. Money is a motive and he's given you enough proof that his company is more important that a R, even the one that he thinks he has with his W. Unless you have much more to offer him, I highly doubt he is going anywhere. BTW, why would anyone want to be with a gigolo? Did he fall into grace when he married her? He was probably broke as a joke, right? If this company of theirs was established by the marriage then something can be done about it. If the company is let's say her daddy's, you know the answer to that.
skywriter Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 "Eh, it's simple social science" No it isn't it's "simple mindedness". It's a poor excuse to say, "I treated so and so this way because, well gosh, they let everyone treat them this way." What a load of lame excuses.
carhill Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 Good point on the sealed records. I've seen some summaries which only relate that the record exists and the contents have been sealed. I assume there are circumstances where the entire record, even its existence as a public record, is sealed and removed from public view. I would imagine that is relatively rare in divorce cases, absent sensitive issues with minors or other compelling reasons. Re-reading the OP, I can perhaps empathize with the MM's fear of losing his business. Absent clear legal arrangements (my lawyer called it Plan B), even if he has/had clear sole ownership, a contested fight and the attendant forensics could chew up tens of thousands in legal and accounting fees. IMO, if the business generates that kind of fear, it likely also has a public trail which can be ascertained, with corporate filings, licenses, court actions, etc, which can allow one to compare the stated fear to the verified sources of that fear. Since the MM and the OP have lived together for six months, it's not like some clandestine affair has been going on. I recall the case of Jack Klugman and Brett Sommers (got her first name wrong in an earlier post) who separated (legally) back in the 1970's, and Jack didn't re-marry until after Brett died a few years ago. His new wife was his long-time girlfriend. Was she 'waiting around' for him to divorce? Doubt it. Did/does he love her? Likely. The OP's case is unique to their circumstances but the potentials are as varied as the people involved. The fact (if correct) that they no longer live together is perhaps telling. I hope the OP updates.
spacehopper Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 fairenough i will choose mywording morecarefully:)
datura_noir Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 I guess if you marry and co-mingle a business and/or fortune, then you must pay the piper when you divorce. I am sure that if his wife had won a lottery worth millions before divorce papers were signed, he would (and you would also) love to benefit from that in some way. Money is a great aphrodisiac...
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