LeaningIntoTheMuse Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 Your video game doesn't require any social interaction. Then again, it doesn't bitch at you when you mess up.
Author orangelady Posted April 5, 2011 Author Posted April 5, 2011 Your video game doesn't require any social interaction. Then again, it doesn't bitch at you when you mess up. You don't like to interact? Not all women are bitches....
Ross PK Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 I'm still going to work on myself, as I've never been doing it for women (they don't hold that much power over me), I'm doing it for myself.
Author orangelady Posted April 5, 2011 Author Posted April 5, 2011 I'm still going to work on myself, as I've never been doing it for women (they don't hold that much power over me), I'm doing it for myself. Okayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, Ross!
BeginAgain Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 That is sometimes true. I remember one episode of mtv's true life a guy moved in with an older woman who turned out to be really mean spirited. He ended up escaping his failed relationship through his xbox360. She eventually cheated on him by getting into a new relationship. She demanded he pay a portion of already paid rent she thought she deserved in order to get back the engagement ring he gave her.
LeaningIntoTheMuse Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 You don't like to interact? Not all women are bitches.... I've said before that I find most casual conversation to be boring. The George Carlin routine comes to mind. "Hey there, I have nothing interesting to say, but I thought I'd ramble on a bit and talk about nothing at all, blah blah blah, until you interrupt me with some stupid sh*t that I don't care about, and you can ramble on, blah blah blah." I'd like conversation with a girl who had more to talk about than makeup and shoes. Unfortunately, I haven't met a female intellectual who also is attractive and also finds ME attractive.
Author orangelady Posted April 5, 2011 Author Posted April 5, 2011 I've said before that I find most casual conversation to be boring. The George Carlin routine comes to mind. "Hey there, I have nothing interesting to say, but I thought I'd ramble on a bit and talk about nothing at all, blah blah blah, until you interrupt me with some stupid sh*t that I don't care about, and you can ramble on, blah blah blah." I'd like conversation with a girl who had more to talk about than makeup and shoes. Unfortunately, I haven't met a female intellectual who also is attractive and also finds ME attractive. I HATE make up and I wish it never existed. I don't wear it either. I'm not the only one who feels this way. A lot of my friends don't wear it too so I don't know where you are meeting these girls. And I only have two pairs of shoes - one of it is fake Crocs. I find that when men say all they hear about girls are makeup and shoes, it makes me wonder why....I think at some point, you attract what you are. Don't you think so? If you're attracting girls like that, maybe you are SOME what shallow yourself ? I don't know...just asking genuinely.
LeaningIntoTheMuse Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 I HATE make up and I wish it never existed. I don't wear it either. I'm not the only one who feels this way. A lot of my friends don't wear it too so I don't know where you are meeting these girls. And I only have two pairs of shoes - one of it is fake Crocs. I find that when men say all they hear about girls are makeup and shoes, it makes me wonder why....I think at some point, you attract what you are. Don't you think so? If you're attracting girls like that, maybe you are SOME what shallow yourself ? I don't know...just asking genuinely. I think it's because you have to either settle on looks or personality. If you settle on personality, and get a good looking girl, you'll get someone without substance. If you settle on looks, and get someone with a good personality, you won't be able to get it up in the bedroom. Maybe this is a 28 year old virgin talking, and certainly the female naked form is attractive. But it's virtually impossible to find a good looking girl who ALSO has a good personality.
BeginAgain Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 Women interested in shoes and makeup is so pervasive that it is just kind of one of those things you learn to deal with like women dealing with guys who love sports. Not all guys love sports but many guys you come across will to some degree.
LeaningIntoTheMuse Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 I don't mind women who like makeup (which makes her prettier) and shoes (which doesn't bother me, and is actually kind of a turn on, being that I have a foot fetish.) However, would I rather discuss the savings at Payless, compared to the new Stephen King novel, or the new Radiohead album? Two guesses on which one I'd rather prefer talking about.
BeginAgain Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 And yet I would prefer to talk about none of it. When it comes to things I am actually interested like a videogame I tend not to want to talk about it with girls. I'd rather keep it to myself. Then again I am not the kind of gamer who wants a videogamer gf.
Titania22 Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 (edited) I would rather my videogames than a man, but what i like best is playing the videogames with the man. Edited April 5, 2011 by Titania22 typo
BeginAgain Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 Videogames for me are like reading a book. It is a completely solitary activity.
Titania22 Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 Videogames for me are like reading a book. It is a completely solitary activity. Well when I say videogames, I generally mean custom games of the StarCraft2 Battlenet.
Author orangelady Posted April 5, 2011 Author Posted April 5, 2011 I think it's because you have to either settle on looks or personality. If you settle on personality, and get a good looking girl, you'll get someone without substance. If you settle on looks, and get someone with a good personality, you won't be able to get it up in the bedroom. Maybe this is a 28 year old virgin talking, and certainly the female naked form is attractive. But it's virtually impossible to find a good looking girl who ALSO has a good personality. ouch that kinda hurts. Anyways, I don't think its the women who are just shallow. I think men can be shallow and not good conversationalists as well. They seem to only chat about ONE thing only and their interests are limited. General knowledge is not there as well. I have plenty of good friends who are great looking but have quite nice personalities. But of course, their husbands and bfs are successful and good looking.
chocolate_boy Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 I think it's because you have to either settle on looks or personality. If you settle on personality, and get a good looking girl, you'll get someone without substance. If you settle on looks, and get someone with a good personality, you won't be able to get it up in the bedroom. Maybe this is a 28 year old virgin talking, and certainly the female naked form is attractive. But it's virtually impossible to find a good looking girl who ALSO has a good personality. Your lack of experience shows, I'm only 2 years older than you but have had 6 serious girlfriends, and a few short relationships in my life, I've never been with an ugly woman, and some of my girlfriends have been absolutely stunning, they've all had great personalities and generally been some of my best friends, I still keep in contact with 4 of my exes today and consider them good friends who I can always have a laugh with.
sally4sara Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 ouch that kinda hurts. Anyways, I don't think its the women who are just shallow. I think men can be shallow and not good conversationalists as well. They seem to only chat about ONE thing only and their interests are limited. General knowledge is not there as well. I have plenty of good friends who are great looking but have quite nice personalities. But of course, their husbands and bfs are successful and good looking. Find better guys. They are out there I promise. guys who, while they may still like gaming, sports, and movies but are still into you and want to spend time with you. What I'm not understanding is - don't YOU like movies and a sport or two? are there no games you enjoy as well? with all the games out, there is bound to be some you'd like. We watch movies together. If there is a MMA fight or UFC on, we're both watching it with equal interest.
Author orangelady Posted April 5, 2011 Author Posted April 5, 2011 Your lack of experience shows, I'm only 2 years older than you but have had 6 serious girlfriends, and a few short relationships in my life, I've never been with an ugly woman, and some of my girlfriends have been absolutely stunning, they've all had great personalities and generally been some of my best friends, I still keep in contact with 4 of my exes today and consider them good friends who I can always have a laugh with. Hmmm I prefer guys with less experience and less history with women. They're the best.
sally4sara Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 Hmmm I prefer guys with less experience and less history with women. They're the best. Not if they only got that way by hiding out in there Ma's basement playing video games.
zengirl Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 Part of it is that men get complacent after the initial chase. I don't think, in this case, they like those things "better" (unless they're being real jerks about it) but they just go back to parts of their normal, single routine for a bit . . . I've noticed this and it's usually temporary and good guys snap out of it after a short time, particularly if you don't indulge it (i.e. if you're playing video games, I've got better things to do -- though personally, I like video games too ) and just pull back a little to let them realize they're being complacent. Working harder when a guy gets complacent is the WORST thing you can do. Most guys don't actually want to be in that state of complacence, though; they think they do when they get stressed, but they ultimately find it unsatisfying. That's been my observation. However, if it's an actual problem --- you're being truly ignored or disregarded for his other interests --- than either he's not capable of an adult relationship or he's not that into you. That sucks.
Kelemort Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 Dating is a not a zero-sum game or an all-or-nothing. It's true that you probably won't end up with a Yale-educated, intellectual, outgoing, friendly, accomplished model, but maybe you'll end up with a fairly attractive, fairly intelligent woman. Good enough to "get it up" in the bedroom and good enough to stimulate you intellectually. Don't get me wrong - I've met a lot of really hot but dumb women. To the point that when I see a really gorgeous woman, I'm usually not attracted and I'd prefer her plainer friends just because they bring more balance. Because even if you entertain that notion of, "She'd be so great in bed," at some point she might open her mouth in bed, and there goes the entire fantasy. The stereotype police are going to come after me, but good-looking people just -are- raised differently. They generally know they're good-looking and they don't need to hone any other skill but "Look pretty" because that's good enough to coast them through life. I think that's why I've ended up in so many conversations with them about designer clothes, bags, shoes, jewelry, cosmetics... -_-' they don't know of anything else to talk about, and prompting any other sort of conversation is met with a blank stare. But, that's not every good-looking woman I've met. There are also the (few) very smart, very gorgeous lot who make you shake your fist at the higher powers and question why you couldn't have been so lucky. And the same is true for men. Don't worry, they're not getting off of the hook either. Dumb as bricks. Some of the friendliest people I've met when they're really good-looking, but know nothing other than their Miller and football. But I digress - unfortunately I know men who would rather do anything but be involved with a significant other. Whatever escape they choose, it's generally because something in the relationship isn't working and they need to escape. Of course, the ballpark changes if this 'escape' has been hardwired into the relationship from the beginning. Once communication changes, becomes more direct and becomes more focused on problem-solving, usually those kinds of escapes start to fade away. I've unfortunately encountered them in my own relationship, although we had that problem from the start. He's always the type to just vegetate in front of the computer for hours after work. I told him that checking in for half an hour or so is fine, but I am not going to sit around all day and stare at him while he's on the computer, waiting for us to go out to dinner or do something together. I don't intend to occupy all of his time, but Lord I expect to have a few hours of devoted one-on-one time a week! What really changed our relationship was me being firm with him and essentially telling him I was tired of having the same discussion, and if changes weren't made I had a deadline in place to leave. I also stopped making any kind of sexual advance toward him. When he had to WORK for it, suddenly his tune changed. Our relationship is also intensified by the fact that I have an old co-worker pursuing me. I have not contacted him in two months, but he will periodically send me text messages and phone calls. Suddenly, the s/o was like a lost child pursuing the toy he didn't want when somebody else wanted it. I don't tell him when the co-worker has texted or called, but sometimes he'll hear the Voicemails when I'm listening to them, and that burns him up. I've never had any interest in the old co-worker, but for now it has done the job and reminded my significant other that other people can and will be interested, and if he doesn't shape up there is always someone else to ship in. So far, it's working! I'm also going to be hitting the gym. He won't be ignoring me if I'm in my underwear in front of the TV!
chocolate_boy Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 Hmmm I prefer guys with less experience and less history with women. They're the best. So you'd prefer the guy who said you can't be a good looking woman with a nice personality? Ok... I'm 30, I've had 6 girlfriends since the age of 17, not too excessive.
Kelemort Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 Yeah, 6 girlfriends in that span of time isn't a big deal. I'm assuming the "fewer boyfriends the better" thing is working on the assumption that she won't be compared to any past girlfriends or that maybe he'll be a virgin. That's really the only big issue with guys who have dated a lot of girls - I don't want to hear all about them and I want to hear that you've done something other than been places/done things with those women. More importantly, I want to know that the feelings are done and in the past. If he starts comparing you to his exes, tells you you would've liked them, talks about sending them gifts out of no where, or lies to you about being in contact with them, RUN. For me personally, after the experiences I've had, I would never date someone if I knew they were in contact with exes with whom they had no children or other liability. Generally, they're still in contact with the exes because they're still in love with 'em or otherwise not over 'em, and that's incredibly painful to endure when you are the one in his present.
GivenUp0083 Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 Have you ever come across men like that? They seem so happy when they've watched good movies, sports games and their video games................ but they never seem enthusiastic about someone they like? Or maybe its that thing about 'he's not that into you' I guess.......... I could see it being both. Some men only can handle going through enough rejection or just aren't cut out for the ups and downs of the dating lifestyle. Maybe they've been in relationships with women who weren't very good to them and they don't see the benefit to being with a women other than sex. Also, there's a chance that if a guy prefers other things over you then yes, I would agree that he is just not that into you. I'm an avid gamer, I had a strong bond with my PS3 and a few PC games (especially when I was laid up a long time after surgery), but now I have a girl I'm crazy about and I only brush the dust off the PS3 when she's busy or on a trip or something.
Nexus One Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 I've played my fair share of video games and still do once in a while. But you know what it is about games, games present you with a problem and they seduce you into solving that problem. Once you realize that, it could get kind of old, because you're going through roughly similar patterns every time. Games I like, - Starcraft (Only played version 1 in my high school days though, haven't played SC2 yet. I like it because it's like advanced real time chess.) - ARMA II (And the old Operation Flashpoint games, not the newer ones) - Mass Effect - Gran Turismo - Sim City - Supreme Ruler 2020 (You pretty much control the entire world in the game or entire nations) - Homeworld (the entire series) However the older I got, the less I played, simply because it gets kind of old, after a while you've seen it. I know guys who are still completely into it though. Nevertheless I still kind of hope they release a new Sim City and a new Homeworld game.
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