musemaj11 Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 What women really want: to marry a rich man Women still want to marry men who are better educated and earn more money than them, a report finds today. The idea that women dislike being financially dependent on men is a myth, with more choosing to “marry up” now than did so in the 1940s, according to Dr Catherine Hakim from the London School of Economics. An analysis of figures for Britain shows that in 1949, 20 per cent of women married husbands with significantly higher levels of education than their own. By the late 1990s, the proportion of women who were “marrying up” had almost doubled to 38 per cent. Similar patterns are seen across much of Europe, the US and Australia. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8237298/What-women-really-want-to-marry-a-rich-man.html Give a woman a lot of money and she will still want someone who has even more. Equal opportunity is social unfairness. It is a disturbance in the natural order. Women are inherently dependent. Give a man a job, his paycheck will also feed at least one woman and one child. Give a woman a job, her paycheck will go to a shoe store because her husband's paycheck already feeds her and her child. Yes, this is an exaggeration, but its not far from the truth. Fairness is if affirmative action is given to men. A law that 'potentially' favors a woman with no one to feed over a man with a wife and a child to feed is an unjust law. Besides, any employer knows that a man with dependents relying on his paycheck makes a much more dedicated worker. Equal opportunity is like communism. It is good as an idea but nothing more.
Mr.Cairo Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 Give a woman a lot of money and she will still want someone who has even more. Equal opportunity is social unfairness. It is a disturbance in the natural order. Women are inherently dependent. Give a man a job, his paycheck will also feed at least one woman and one child. Give a woman a job, her paycheck will go to a shoe store because her husband's paycheck already feeds her and her child. Yes, this is an exaggeration, but its not far from the truth. Fairness is if affirmative action is given to men. A law that 'potentially' favors a woman with no one to feed over a man with a wife and a child to feed is an unjust law. Besides, any employer knows that a man with dependents relying on his paycheck makes a much more dedicated worker. Equal opportunity is like communism. It is good as an idea but nothing more. I wasn't aware that every man and every woman belonged to the fairy race, made of sugar and spice and everything nice:confused:. Yes, there are going to be women interested in money as there are men who are going to be interested in a woman's money. Relax. There are 7 billion human beings out there. What you can't find or have in one gal or guy, you can easily find in another human being. Expand your horizons, live a little, meet exciting new people capable of making you cry, making you happy, heck even making you broke can be a funny experience.
dreamingoftigers Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 I have some questions: I married a homeless man when I was making $60000 a year. I have held a higher level of education too. Did he just have the nicest backpack I ever saw or what? How do you explain that? Throughout our marriage I made for then him (even when we eventually went bumming together) and I was as happy as a clam. Forget the rich guy, I'll take the loyal guy any day. BTW, I buy one pair of shoes a year, I still have last year's pair. They are the same model and a slightly different colour. If I am in a hurry I will often grab one of each colour because I don't give a crap. Does this make me not female in your eyes or is your theory not perfect?
Author musemaj11 Posted March 30, 2011 Author Posted March 30, 2011 I have some questions: I married a homeless man when I was making $60000 a year. I have held a higher level of education too. Did he just have the nicest backpack I ever saw or what?? All men want a beautiful woman but not all of them are rich enough to have one. You get my point.
threebyfate Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 I have some questions: I married a homeless man when I was making $60000 a year. I have held a higher level of education too. Did he just have the nicest backpack I ever saw or what? How do you explain that? Throughout our marriage I made for then him (even when we eventually went bumming together) and I was as happy as a clam. Forget the rich guy, I'll take the loyal guy any day. BTW, I buy one pair of shoes a year, I still have last year's pair. They are the same model and a slightly different colour. If I am in a hurry I will often grab one of each colour because I don't give a crap. Does this make me not female in your eyes or is your theory not perfect?dot, don't even bother with these guys. They have no interest in reality. If you've noticed, each one of these guys has their own OCD item. With the OP, it's money. With another, it's American women = sluts and whores. With another, it's all women are superficial. It's neverending obsession that guarantees they won't be able to date. Another zero sum game.
dreamingoftigers Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 dot, don't even bother with these guys. They have no interest in reality. If you've noticed, each one of these guys has their own OCD item. With the OP, it's money. With another, it's American women = sluts and whores. With another, it's all women are superficial. It's neverending obsession that guarantees they won't be able to date. Another zero sum game. Oh I am sure that they will date and resent the women that they are with. And that'll go well.
kiss_andmakeup Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 When I started dating my boyfriend, I had also gone out on a couple of dates with another guy. Both were serious LTR prospects. My boyfriend was a chef, made about $35,000/yr, and drove a honda, while the other guy was an oncologist and drove an acura. I chose to pursue my boyfriend because he and I had better chemistry. Oh, and here's another kicker: the other guy was significantly taller, too.
dreamingoftigers Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 All men want a beautiful woman but not all of them are rich enough to have one. You get my point. So I was just really ugly and he took what he could get? Seems odd considering the guy I was engaged to before him was doing decently financially and came from a nice, stable family. He was also completing his education degree. I never had any other troubles getting a guy before that either or varying looks and income. Just happened to marry the homeless guy.
betterdeal Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 That Telegraph report is palpable crap. More people "married up" in the 1990s compared to the 1940s because more people had higher qualifications in the 1990s compared to the 1940s. There was this thing called the Second World War going on in the 1940s. You may have heard of it.
Star Gazer Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 Well, to be fair... all other things being equal, most women would choose a guy who makes more money.
Nexus One Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 In regards to rich, the top 1% income scale in the world starts at $250k USD per year. So the "poorest" of that top 1% make $250k per year. Combined, that top 1% owns 80% of the world's wealth.
dreamingoftigers Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 Well, to be fair... all other things being equal, most women would choose a guy who makes more money. Actually to be quite frank I wouldn't because the higher the income, the more likely the guy is to cheat. Damn my odds!
Star Gazer Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 Actually to be quite frank I wouldn't because the higher the income, the more likely the guy is to cheat. Statistics, please?
Mme. Chaucer Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 I am so, so tired of all the woman - hating men here who constantly spew ignorant generalizations, seek and post biased articles and studies that support their prejudices, and dominate many threads with this sad nonsense. Guys - we know what you think. It's miserable and embarrassing to read, especially over, and over, and over. Can't you think of any other subjects to contribute here on LS - maybe things you know something about? Obviously, the subject of women is one you are profoundly ignorant about.
betterdeal Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 Well, to be fair... all other things being equal, most women would choose a guy who makes more money. So Miss Average will choose the cheesemaker who make 40,000 over the cheesemaker who makes 39,000? I mean, I suppose if she had to choose, and both cheesemakers lived equidistant from Miss Average, and had all the same hobbies, and each met her at the same time, and said the same things, then you think it'd be down to that 1,000 a year to make the difference? I suppose it would. But then that doesn't happen. You meet people who are generally in some way experiencing a similar stage in life as you and you bond, you f*ck, you have fun together, you grow and learn together. That's what the majority of people do.
Woggle Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 I am not saying most women are like this but for the ones that are they should have no issue playing their part in a traditional relationship. If not then embrace equality.
threebyfate Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 Oh I am sure that they will date and resent the women that they are with. And that'll go well. Maybe one or two. But most will continue failing until they realize that the problem and solution lies within them.
Star Gazer Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 So Miss Average will choose the cheesemaker who make 40,000 over the cheesemaker who makes 39,000? I mean, I suppose if she had to choose, and both cheesemakers lived equidistant from Miss Average, and had all the same hobbies, and each met her at the same time, and said the same things, then you think it'd be down to that 1,000 a year to make the difference? I suppose it would. But then that doesn't happen. You meet people who are generally in some way experiencing a similar stage in life as you and you bond, you f*ck, you have fun together, you grow and learn together. That's what the majority of people do. I mean, a woman might meet two guys around the same period of time. She might have the same level of chemistry with each of them, find them equally attractive/intelligent/charming/funny, they have the same hobbies/interests, same values/goals/etc. ... In such an instance, I do think most women would choose the guy who makes more money or has a higher earning potential.
kiss_andmakeup Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 I am not saying most women are like this but for the ones that are they should have no issue playing their part in a traditional relationship. If not then embrace equality. I actually agree with this Woggle. If for some reason my boyfriend started making so much money that I didn't need to work anymore (not saying I actually would stop working; actually I'd probably volunteer full time) I'd be more than happy to take care of the home end of things. My dad supported us financially when I was growing up and my mom stayed home with us, and did all the typical "mom" stuff. When my sister and I moved out my mom found a job. Now they share the cooking, cleaning, and home related responsibilities since they both work full time. And I'm sure if for some reason my dad stopped working, he'd take on more of that responsibility while my mom worked. It works both ways.
Nexus One Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 If rich would be defined as the top 1%, which starts at an income of 250k per year, then the theory of OP doesn't hold up. Women do not just date guys from the top 1%. Although I must say that there's something suspicious going on in New York, Moscow and London where many of the top 1% live. Those cities namely have an excess of single women. In New York for example there are 5 single women to every single man. That's kind of weird, I don't know why that is. I've never heard and actual reason for it.
Star Gazer Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 so not the one with the bigger cock? All. Other. Things. Being. Equal.
Woggle Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 I actually agree with this Woggle. If for some reason my boyfriend started making so much money that I didn't need to work anymore (not saying I actually would stop working; actually I'd probably volunteer full time) I'd be more than happy to take care of the home end of things. My dad supported us financially when I was growing up and my mom stayed home with us, and did all the typical "mom" stuff. When my sister and I moved out my mom found a job. Now they share the cooking, cleaning, and home related responsibilities since they both work full time. And I'm sure if for some reason my dad stopped working, he'd take on more of that responsibility while my mom worked. It works both ways. It works both ways as well. If a man wants a traditional housewife then he should go out and be the provider. Play the role in the relationship you want.
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