SteveC80 Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 Amen. Used to feed myself and believe that "looks aren't important to women" spiel when I was out of shape. Then I got in shape, very good shape. And I realized two things - a. I was lying to myself. b. Women are full of it. Women are just as shallow as, if not, more than men. Never have I ever had women with husbands, boyfriends, fiancees, openly make themselves available to me. Never have I had to tell a woman to pump her brakes. Never have I had sex with women 8+ years my senior. Never have I had to develop an eye for women who try to sneak in a feel during conversation. Never had I been groped, repeatedly, by women in general. Until I got in great shape. Couple that with a handsome face and a nice smile, it was just meant to be, my father passed on great genes. And I will do the same for my son (if I have one) in the future. The sooner you stop caring about what women want, and ask yourself what YOU want then take control of it the sooner you'll see more success with women. Women like to be around a successful guy, a guy who's achieved things. Be it physical health, wealth, etc. It's kind of messed up! But that's how women are. The 1st year of being totally fit, I punished women for it. Treated them like total garbage, just used them and got a new one really. Because I could remember a day when women wouldn't even look twice at me but now girls that I wanted to smash from back in 12th grade want to be my best friend, cook and bring me lunch at my job and ****. The reality of things made me laugh for a minute or two, make the face, then tell myself "Damn bro, women are grimey as hell." But not all of them! Just most. And the same thing can be applied to people in general. Same here i went from a fat kid to doing partime modeling had a six pack the whole thing in my 20's and the amount of married women or women in relationships who blatantly hit on me really soured me on most women I have a friend who was a male stripper and he said the things married women and women in general did to him shocked him I think a good looking Man has a even more powerful spell on women then vice versa Most Men just see a good looking women walking down the street for her physical assets and figure shes high maentenance probably a bitch and not worht the headache women think the opposite and equate positive attributes with hot guys and disregard any negative
mr.dream merchant Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 Mr. Dream: Seriously? You are surprised that when you were out of shape, you got less attention than now when you are in shape? I'm baffled by that. It seems logical to me that fitter, healthier, more attractive people get more attention. In general, people tend to go for other people who are as attractive or about as attractive as they are. So this thread is kind of pointless really. There is someone out there for everyone. I think people who are unattractive/unfit tend to have a harder time because their matches (women who are also unattractive/unfit) are more shy and less likely to display attraction, just as they are less likely to pursue the opposite sex due to lack of confidence. But that is another topic I guess. Women, JUST LIKE MEN, like to have attractive partners. It is important to be physically attracted to your partner. I will be the first to admit that I am very picky. But women who prefer attractive men aren't limiting themselves to douchebags. There are plenty of nice, attractive men out there. I am engaged to a gorgeous man and although he is not perfect, he is not a douchebag player and I love him. Bottom line, all of the things you are saying about women can be said about men too. Everyone wants a partner that they are attracted to. This is not a BAD thing. This is how we are programmed biologically. Some people ARE shallow in that they only pursue attractive people (regardless of that person's character). Some of us, however, know that we deserve and can find people whose appearance AND character we are attracted to. /rant. lol No, just shocked at how many women were willing to be unfaithful. And jeez, douchebag player? Come on.
SteveC80 Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 No, just shocked at how many women were willing to be unfaithful. And jeez, douchebag player? Come on. I agree..That's the thing that shocked me most..give women a few drinks and a really hot guy and i believe most will cheat
PJKino Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 Mr. Dream: Seriously? You are surprised that when you were out of shape, you got less attention than now when you are in shape? I'm baffled by that. It seems logical to me that fitter, healthier, more attractive people get more attention. In general, people tend to go for other people who are as attractive or about as attractive as they are. So this thread is kind of pointless really. There is someone out there for everyone. I think people who are unattractive/unfit tend to have a harder time because their matches (women who are also unattractive/unfit) are more shy and less likely to display attraction, just as they are less likely to pursue the opposite sex due to lack of confidence. But that is another topic I guess. Women, JUST LIKE MEN, like to have attractive partners. It is important to be physically attracted to your partner. I will be the first to admit that I am very picky. But women who prefer attractive men aren't limiting themselves to douchebags. There are plenty of nice, attractive men out there. I am engaged to a gorgeous man and although he is not perfect, he is not a douchebag player and I love him. Bottom line, all of the things you are saying about women can be said about men too. Everyone wants a partner that they are attracted to. This is not a BAD thing. This is how we are programmed biologically. Some people ARE shallow in that they only pursue attractive people (regardless of that person's character). Some of us, however, know that we deserve and can find people whose appearance AND character we are attracted to. /rant. lol Yup everyone wants a attractive partner some people can get it some people cannot. I cant get any women im attracted to into me so id rather be single[which ive been the first 30 years of my life] then be with somebody i have no physical attraction to at all because its my league or all i can get.
mr.dream merchant Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 Same here i went from a fat kid to doing partime modeling had a six pack the whole thing in my 20's and the amount of married women or women in relationships who blatantly hit on me really soured me on most women I have a friend who was a male stripper and he said the things married women and women in general did to him shocked him I think a good looking Man has a even more powerful spell on women then vice versa Most Men just see a good looking women walking down the street for her physical assets and figure shes high maentenance probably a bitch and not worht the headache women think the opposite and equate positive attributes with hot guys and disregard any negative True. These days I'm dealing with women who want to use me for an ego boost. They'll be off the market, but still try to get me to pursue them. Things like placing themselves in my field of vision, coming close to me, etc. Women are obsessed with being wanted by an attractive man, even if she has no intentions of going all the way with him. She'll still flirt her life away with him and throw him signals just for him to bite, and then her ego goes +++. Took me short time to catch on. So now I just don't even give them attention. What happens is they sit around for a couple minutes and occasionally look up to see if I'm checking them out. Some are persistent and will even come up to me and ask me a question. But once they realize I'm not interested, they leave with this look on their face lol. It's hilarious. Women thrive on physical validation.
SmileFace Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 Back Then They Didn't Want Me, Now I'm Hot They All On Me Bwhahhaha!
mr.dream merchant Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 Back Then They Didn't Want Me, Now I'm Hot They All On Me Bwhahhaha! LMAO! :lmao:
Eve Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 I have been contemplating what turns chemistry and physical attraction into that something more.. . Faith . Ability to laugh at oneself . Positive Attitude to life . Positive attitude towards others . Ability to be vulnerable . Ability to achieve personal goals . Common sense . Ability to deal with own anger . Good son, brother, Dad . Able to protect himself/me/the home . Resilient enough to deal with lifes ups and downs . Cares about animals . Able to be open . Able to give his heart This is what works for me. Physical attraction is actually quite complex when you think about it! Take care, Eve x
mr.dream merchant Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 Back Then They Didn't Want Me, Now I'm Hot They All On Me Bwhahhaha! Oh SmileFace, you make me want to be a one woman man.
Hanther Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 I agree..That's the thing that shocked me most..give women a few drinks and a really hot guy and i believe most will cheat I agree with you. But the same is true for most MEN. Many would argue that it's even more true with men (as far as the cheating goes) because men tend to be more sexual. Not saying I agree with that. I don't think there's a way to really know. What I'm saying is that it is no question that people want attractive partners, and it is no question that a lot of people will cheat. We have always known this - everyone knows this. But there are people out there who want someone as attractive as they are, has good character, and who won't cheat simply if put in a room with an attractive person. This thread was simply about what percentage of the population women find attractive when just walking out in public. For curiosity's sake, I think. But people are running with those numbers and making all sorts of statements about how shallow and depraved women are. lol PEOPLE are immoral, shallow, insecure, cheating, a**holes for the most part. Men and women alike. EDIT: But I do completely agree with you about one thing - attractiveness has a lot of power over most people. (Again, men and women).
Hanther Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 Well said Hanther! All in all, women are probably (generally) more selective because we carry the babies. Take care, Eve x Also true. Look at the male version of this thread. The numbers are MUCH higher on there because biologically, men are wired to spread their seed. On this thread, the numbers are much lower, because women are biologically driven to be more selective. Sex has much bigger consequences for women than it does for men (biologically speaking). These threads don't prove that women/men are shallow, cheaters, etc. The numbers reflect what evolution has programmed into our brains.
Woggle Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 I am married but I am in good shape and workout and I have married women hit on me in the summer. When I reject them it's like I ruined their entire day. Some women really do place that much importance on being wanted by an attractive man. I think that is why married are so much more attractive than single men. If she can pull a man away from his wife then she must be the sexiest woman in the world in her mind,
mr.dream merchant Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 I think if you're going to take shots at someone you should actually take shots at them, not be subtle about it.
Mr.Cairo Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 Also true. Look at the male version of this thread. The numbers are MUCH higher on there because biologically, men are wired to spread their seed. On this thread, the numbers are much lower, because women are biologically driven to be more selective. Sex has much bigger consequences for women than it does for men (biologically speaking). These threads don't prove that women/men are shallow, cheaters, etc. The numbers reflect what evolution has programmed into our brains. True, and you can see on this forum how the guys who aren't successful with women purposely believe that there's something wrong with all women, not with them, no, that'd take away from their victim card and they can't have that. The majority of women are not attracted to the majority of men. Nature made it to be that so that the best of males manage to reproduce, to spread those better genes. Don't like the game? Don't play it, guys. Or change what is wrong with yourself. If you can match up what the guys, successful with women, have, or how they are: you will have what you want.
SteveC80 Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 (edited) True, and you can see on this forum how the guys who aren't successful with women purposely believe that there's something wrong with all women, not with them, no, that'd take away from their victim card and they can't have that. The majority of women are not attracted to the majority of men. Nature made it to be that so that the best of males manage to reproduce, to spread those better genes. Don't like the game? Don't play it, guys. Or change what is wrong with yourself. If you can match up what the guys, successful with women, have, or how they are: you will have what you want. The best prettiest women get those best male genes saverage and ugly women are not getting the cream of the crop male Edited March 31, 2011 by SteveC80
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