I'm a college senior and still a virgin

[Dust]

You don’t wait days of hanging out to make a move on a girl. Your big move should never be asking her “will you be my girlfriend.” You need to try something physical like holding her hand and work your way up from that.

 

Seriously, you would have had a better shot saying something like “I am man, you are woman, together we be!” Don’t just flat out put girls on the spot by asking them to be your girlfriend when you haven’t so much as kissed them.

 

Don’t act so clueless, you have tv girls eat that romantic crap up. Women the great motivators, they’ll get you working.

[P&R]

I have super tough challenges with relationships, so any advice would be great.

 

I'm a 22 year old guy and I'm a senior in college. I'm still a virgin and I've never even kissed a girl. I've been trying for about 6 years to get a gf, but to no avail.

 

I have so many failures it's not even funny. For example, last year there was this girl that I met through a class. We hung out together, ate meals together, did homework in the student center, played video games, chilled at the cafe-- you get the idea. It was a lot of fun. I felt like we had such an awesome connection and I was almost positive she liked me. So one day I asked her if she wanted to be my gf and she sorta freaked. She got super nervous and said she didn't think it would work out because she didn't "see me that way". I tried talking to her about it, but she was really anxious and left in a hurry. I tried calling her and texting her a few times. No response. After that we fell out and didn't really talk again.

 

For a less intense example, there was a girl in my class last semester. We sat next to each other every day, and chatted about class and other things for the first month of class. So I asked her if she wanted to go to the cafe sometime. She said she was really swamped so she couldn't. Then I asked her again the next week and she seemed all nervous and she said no.. Then the next class when she came in she didn't sit next to me even though she had every day since the beginning of the semester. The next class the same thing happened. I felt bad and didn't push anymore.

 

I've got a million stories since high school, but I won't bore you anymore. Also to clarify I'm not asking out supermodels. They're just girls I like.

 

My whole life doesn't revolve around this. I have a few good guy friends that I hang out with. They keep me sane

I'm super involved with clubs. I do fencing, salsa dancing, juggling, running and a few others. I also love music and play some video games for fun.

 

My life is ok, but I feel lonely a lot. I'd love having a gf for the good company and affection.

 

And there's the sexual side. I'm a 22 year old guy. Need I say more. I have so much desire. Yeah I can always rub one out, but I always feel depressed afterwards. I have literally no guilt or anything like that. I've talked to people about it and they think I'm subconsciously thinking "I wish it was with a woman". And honestly, that makes a lot of sense. I'd love to share the experience with someone.

 

I'm not sure. Maybe I'm not great with conversation. I'm often at a loss for words irl. I try to improve my convo by talking to tons of people in classes, clubs or just seeing them on campus. But a lot of people appear bored and uninterested in what I say. I just don't know.

 

People always say it's so simple to get a gf in hs and college because you're surrounded by so many like-minded people. And yet it's not at all easy for me.

 

Other people tell me that I just haven't met the right person yet. But they've been saying that for the last 6 YEARS. I'm hittin the real world soon where people say it's 10x more difficult.

 

To be honest, it's really bringing me down. I keep feeling more lonely and depressed. It feels like insanity for me to continue with this. But I'm definitely willing to do what it takes. So any help or advice would be super appreciated. And thank you for reading

The bolded part is where you went wrong.... You weren't even dating this girl. You were hanging out with her as a friend, and so she saw you as such.

 

Now here is where you made the biggest mistake... You asked her to be your girlfriend when you guys were not even dating. You asked her to make a fairly big commitment without even going on a single date with the girl. This was probably the worst thing that you could have said to her. It's no wonder that she reacted the way she did. If you would have actually asked her out on a date, and dated her for at least a month or so this could've ended a lot differently.

[kiss_andmakeup]

What you say is very interesting and hopefully that is true

 

I have seen it to be true personally. I only use my boyfriend as an example because he has talked briefly about how he really struggled with girls in college. Now in his early/mid thirties he's felt more comfortable socializing with and asking out women that he used to feel were "out of his league." His girlfriend before me was a total knock out, and while I wouldn't say the same for myself I'd say I'm at least average looking, plus we have a great emotional chemistry. :]

 

Whereas women are fawned over and doted upon from the instant we sprout breasts, young guys have to work a lot harder to draw attention to themselves. I think that's why men take a little longer to develop confidence...a lot of the guys who have confidence in college are just cocky. They really have nothing to back it up. As you grow in education, intelligence, and life experience, you will be more confident in your daily life as well as with the opposite sex.

 

Best of luck to you...you sound like a genuine, smart and level-headed guy...don't let this turn you bitter or misogynistic. Things will work themselves out. :]

[Dust]

The bolded part is where you went wrong.... You weren't even dating this girl. You were hanging out with her as a friend, and so she saw you as such.

 

Now here is where you made the biggest mistake... You asked her to be your girlfriend when you guys were not even dating. You asked her to make a fairly big commitment without even going on a single date with the girl. This was probably the worst thing that you could have said to her. It's no wonder that she reacted the way she did. If you would have actually asked her out on a date, and dated her for at least a month or so this could've ended a lot differently.

 

He seriously would have had better luck just saying "Lets F*ck!" He might as well just got down on his knee and asked her to marry him.

[somedude81]

I have seen it to be true personally. I only use my boyfriend as an example because he has talked briefly about how he really struggled with girls in college. Now in his early/mid thirties he's felt more comfortable socializing with and asking out women that he used to feel were "out of his league." His girlfriend before me was a total knock out, and while I wouldn't say the same for myself I'd say I'm at least average looking, plus we have a great emotional chemistry. :]

 

Whereas women are fawned over and doted upon from the instant we sprout breasts, young guys have to work a lot harder to draw attention to themselves. I think that's why men take a little longer to develop confidence...a lot of the guys who have confidence in college are just cocky. They really have nothing to back it up. As you grow in education, intelligence, and life experience, you will be more confident in your daily life as well as with the opposite sex.

 

Best of luck to you...you sound like a genuine, smart and level-headed guy...don't let this turn you bitter or misogynistic. Things will work themselves out. :]

It's rare to hear from a woman who really gets it.

 

Men and women truly lead very different lives.

 

It's a shame most women don't understand this, and actually seem to make it harder for the average guy.

[Dust]

It's rare to hear from a woman who really gets it.

 

Men and women truly lead very different lives.

 

It's a shame most women don't understand this, and actually seem to make it harder for the average guy.

 

I don't think you get it. I would worry less about making women understand, and more about seizing reality as you understand it. You're not a victim.

[Thedude22]

Christ fellas, it isn't that hard. I'm no casanova by any means but getting a girl in the sack isn't that hard, especially if you are half way decent looking and don't care what she looks like.

 

Now mind you I'm pretty sure I have a mild form of social anxiety and was a fairly late bloomer myself so I can sympathize. I also think you can follow my lead because I was not born a ladies man.

 

The first thing you need to do is not care or think about what she thinks about you. If you want to say something to her, don't analyze it for charm, just say it. Do that with everything you say to her, your outspokeness and confidence will intimidate her and she'll A) back off (didn't say it was perfect) or B) be attracted to you.

 

I *sigh* was a master of college pick ups, as a matter of fact every decent girl I have gotten except for one was from college. Sit next to her, engage in idle chit chat for a week or so, then when you are leaving class maybe casually ask her to grab a coffee or lunch. Act as if you are going there regardless and she can tag along if she wants. Have coffee, ask her questions, genuinely listen, if you can be funny, if you can't just listen and respond with interest. When things seem to be dying down, say you have to leave and ask for her number. Don't ask for it, ask if "she has a number" she'll say yes. Don't text her that day, maybe in a day or two. From there you text flirt, super easy because you can take your time. Never text her twice in a row and never text her faster than she texts you. Then when the fruit is ripe ask her out, preferably in person, but I have been very successful via text message. By this time you should be friendly enough that you can skip a lot of that first/second date crap. Ask her if she wants to watch a movie at your place, then you bang her. FIN

 

Also never ever ever ever ever tell a girl you are a virgin. Not at your age. 20 was the last year for that. Now you need to lie or just don't talk about it. Don't be anxious or ashamed about it, just do it. Sex really is overrated. But yeah I will say, you need to get on the horse pal because after college you'll be sitting behind a computer screen at 1 am giving advice to people on how to get laid in college.

[kiss_andmakeup]

It's rare to hear from a woman who really gets it.

 

Men and women truly lead very different lives.

 

It's a shame most women don't understand this, and actually seem to make it harder for the average guy.

 

I'm willing to acknowledge that women have it easier in the dating world BUT it's only if they are:

 

a. attractive

b. under 30

 

I'm not saying after 30 women are at a disadvantage, simply that the playing field begins to level at that point (from what I have observed).

 

I think the biggest mistake girls my age (early to mid twenties) make is falling prey to the "upgrade" syndrome...there are so many options that we can forget to appreciate good old fashioned chemistry and genuine personality. Could I find a boyfriend who was hotter or richer? Sure. But would he continually value me for me? Make me laugh? Love me unconditionally? Be a compatible sexual partner and giving lover? There's no way to know that. And I think once you find all those traits in a mate it's important to acknowledge their true value and hold onto them. :]

[somedude81]

You're not a victim.

I beg to differ.

 

I feel like God has played a practical joke on me.

 

There are quite a few things wrong with me, but they aren't that bad as to make it obvious that I don't have a chance with women. But things really are bad enough that I actually don't have a chance at all.

 

Which often leaves me asking "why?"

[Dust]

I beg to differ.

 

I feel like God has played a practical joke on me.

 

There are quite a few things wrong with me, but they aren't that bad as to make it obvious that I don't have a chance with women. But things really are bad enough that I actually don't have a chance at all.

 

Which often leaves me asking "why?"

 

I personally know a great guy who happens to be short 5’2, still lives with his mom, and he works just some lame job. Yet he always has a cute/cool/sexy gf.

 

I could tell you stories like this over and over again. Fact is you’re not competing against any one but yourself. Don’t forget it. You sound silly saying stuff like God did this to you.

[somedude81]

 

The first thing you need to do is not care or think about what she thinks about you. If you want to say something to her, don't analyze it for charm, just say it. Do that with everything you say to her, your outspokeness and confidence will intimidate her and she'll A) back off (didn't say it was perfect) or B) be attracted to you.

 

I *sigh* was a master of college pick ups, as a matter of fact every decent girl I have gotten except for one was from college. Sit next to her, engage in idle chit chat for a week or so, then when you are leaving class maybe casually ask her to grab a coffee or lunch. Act as if you are going there regardless and she can tag along if she wants. Have coffee, ask her questions, genuinely listen, if you can be funny, if you can't just listen and respond with interest. When things seem to be dying down, say you have to leave and ask for her number. Don't ask for it, ask if "she has a number" she'll say yes. Don't text her that day, maybe in a day or two. From there you text flirt, super easy because you can take your time. Never text her twice in a row and never text her faster than she texts you. Then when the fruit is ripe ask her out, preferably in person, but I have been very successful via text message. By this time you should be friendly enough that you can skip a lot of that first/second date crap. Ask her if she wants to watch a movie at your place, then you bang her. FIN

Wow, your approach is very similar to what I try to use.

 

My problem is a low success rate for the lunch/coffee invite. I've had no success at getting a girl to my place as anything more than a friend to play video games with. The odds of banging one of those girls was about 0% unless I hooked up an alcohol IV into them.

I'm willing to acknowledge that women have it easier in the dating world BUT it's only if they are:

 

a. attractive

I would replace attractive with, "not obese." And even then I've seen fat girls getting hit on.

b. under 30

 

I'm not saying after 30 women are at a disadvantage, simply that the playing field begins to level at that point (from what I have observed).

Myth about women over 30

 

I think the biggest mistake girls my age (early to mid twenties) make is falling prey to the "upgrade" syndrome...there are so many options that we can forget to appreciate good old fashioned chemistry and genuine personality. Could I find a boyfriend who was hotter or richer? Sure. But would he continually value me for me? Make me laugh? Love me unconditionally? Be a compatible sexual partner and giving lover? There's no way to know that. And I think once you find all those traits in a mate it's important to acknowledge their true value and hold onto them. :]

While it may be a mistake for women, it's absolutely horrible for the guys that are getting passed over.

 

I'd rather have too much money instead of being homeless.

[somedude81]

I personally know a great guy who happens to be short 5’2, still lives with his mom, and he works just some lame job. Yet he always has a cute/cool/sexy gf.

 

I could tell you stories like this over and over again. Fact is you’re not competing against any one but yourself. Don’t forget it. You sound silly saying stuff like God did this to you.

I'm 29, 5'6, fairly socially awkward though I'm trying, and I have speech impediment that often makes it very difficult to talk unless I'm completely relaxed.

 

I'm also not smooth or charming in any way nor do I have baseless cockiness. I have never had a GF or anything remotely close to one.

[kiss_andmakeup]

I would replace attractive with, "not obese." And even then I've seen fat girls getting hit on.

 

I agree, but the problem here is that getting "hit on" does not equal being considered relationship material. Girls I know of who are on the less attractive and/or heavier side might get hit on but it's often just because the guy assumes they'll be an "easy lay." Which I assure you is just as painful and damaging to a woman's ego as a rejection is for a man.

 

Myth about women over 30

 

As I stated, I don't think women over 30 are at a DISADVANTAGE in the dating world, simply that they don't have the massive advantage they did in their 20's.

 

While it may be a mistake for women, it's absolutely horrible for the guys that are getting passed over.

 

I'd rather have too much money instead of being homeless.

 

I'm not disagreeing with you. Only speculating that women who spend their best years chasing the next best thing will likely pay for it later.

Edited March 25, 2011 by kiss_andmakeup

[Dust]

I'm 29, 5'6, fairly socially awkward though I'm trying, and I have speech impediment that often makes it very difficult to talk unless I'm completely relaxed.

 

I'm also not smooth or charming in any way nor do I have baseless cockiness. I have never had a GF or anything remotely close to one.

 

Read the story of the man with no dick if you ever want to feel better about yourself. Sadly he did end up killing himself but even he got a gf. This man lost his penis as a baby because of some stupid doctor. His parents were then told to remove his privates completely and raised him as a girl. Yet as a teenager he realized he was a man and rebelled. He got a gf’s.

 

The man with half a body, you may have seen him on Jerry Springer. (he worked on the show) He got gf's.

 

The boy born with no arms or legs, just stumps, he looked like just a torso. He got gf's.

 

The wolf boys who grow massive amounts of hair all over their faces. They got gf's.

 

The 600lb virgin who had the nick name and was known as the 600lb virgin… he got a gf.

 

Even the boy in the bubble got gf's. (he was real right)

 

Only thing stopping you is you. All this girls have it easier crap is pointless. I’m glad I’m a man and so are you. I’m sorry you can just sit in a bar and have men offer to buy you drinks but that isn’t reality. You can have it so good if you just make it so.

[TheBigQuestion]

I'm 29, 5'6, fairly socially awkward though I'm trying, and I have speech impediment that often makes it very difficult to talk unless I'm completely relaxed.

 

I'm also not smooth or charming in any way nor do I have baseless cockiness. I have never had a GF or anything remotely close to one.

 

What kind of speech impediment exactly, and how bad is it? This could be a big factor. I'm a pretty regular reader/poster here but I don't remember you talking about this before. Is it the kind that is treatable? I can more or less relate. I'm a stutterer and it makes me sound like a damn fool, especially if I'm not completely relaxed too. Listening to the audio recordings my legal writing professor has made of our conferences is rather embarrassing.

[Wolf18]

OP we're both in the same boat. I'm not a virgin but I've never had a girlfriend and I'm also 22.

 

I don't know where people get the idea that college is a great place to meet women. From my experience, women don't judge you personally, they judge you in comparison to anyone else around.

 

I went to a fairly small high school with a lot of really boring, overweight, shorter than me, Asian, etc guys, so I had some success with the girls there because I was attractive compared to my peers. Now I'm in college and I'm surrounded by muscle bound, upper middle class, 6'2, chisel faced jock guys in their prime, so I am pretty much a ghost and from experience, even giving it a shot is pointless and often times met with scorn.

 

I'm about 5'7 and 140 lbs (I'm thin), with an alright face (although people say I look younger than I am) and a personality a lot of people like ,but like you I just can't seem to seal the deal these days.

 

Going to a bar by the way is aterrible idea. As a seasoned veteran of the bar scene, I can tell you the chances of getting a girl there are almost 0 unless you lower your standards considerably below the bottom of the barrel, or you go on a really quiet night (thursdays are the best). Bars with an older more mature crowd are great too, because the girls will be desperate to get away from the horny old guys . If you go to a college bar on a friday or saturday you're just going to be surrounded by dozens of 6'2 tanned athletes and guidos, fighting over the women who they outnumber 10 to 1. That has been my experience going to a whole myriad of bars every week for 3-4 years.

 

Atleast you're 5'11, you've got a much better shot than I do on that principle alone. Put on some muscle, get some nice clothes, and get a handsome haircut and you should be fine.

[somedude81]

I agree, but the problem here is that getting "hit on" does not equal being considered relationship material. Girls I know of who are on the less attractive and/or heavier side might get hit on but it's often just because the guy assumes they'll be an "easy lay." Which I assure you is just as painful and damaging to a woman's ego as a rejection is for a man.

You do have a point.

 

There is a belief that heavier girls are easier. One thing I do know is that they are much more aggressive than average girls. I've had three women actively hit on me, and all three were significantly heavier than I was.

 

While it may be damaging to a woman's ego, at least she can still get some sexual gratification out of it. Women aren't the only only gender to want a relationship. Besides, I wouldn't mind getting used for sex every once in a while.

 

As I stated, I don't think women over 30 are at a DISADVANTAGE in the dating world, simply that they don't have the massive advantage they did in their 20's.

LOL! So they go from a massive advantage to a big advantage?

I'm not disagreeing with you. Only speculating that women who spend their best years chasing the next best thing will likely pay for it later.

Yeah, you're probably right.

 

Right now though, bitterness clouds my judgement and it's hard to believe that "the enemy" has it as hard as I do.

[Thedude22]

Wow, your approach is very similar to what I try to use.

 

Speech impediment is your only real problem I say. Girls are VERY verbal, having a confident tone of voice is more important than having a six pack, so that's your main issue.

 

Have you ever noticed that stupid guys always get laid more than smart fellas? You know why that is? They are too stupid to think beyond natural instinct. The though of "Well what if she isn't into guys like me" etc. etc isn't available to them so they are completely free of insecurity. The best thing you can do is don't think about it.

 

Alas, that is hard to do. I struggle with overthinking all the time. So what you have to do is isolate your positive qualities (everyone has them) and try to inflate them in your head to epic proportions. Are you a good student? I was and when I was on campus I convinced myself and everyone around me I was the best. That will do wonders for your confidence and that will translate to women. Now get me around a pool table and I just reek of apathy and defeat because I suck at pool, as a result my less attractive friends who are good at pool will get the girls, not me. Be in your element and you will dominate, out of your element and you'll likely be defeated.

 

A shark in the water is king of the sea, a shark on land is gull food.

[Wolf18]

I too wish more girls were like Kissandmakeup, she does speak the truth.

 

However I have to disagree that getting hit on for sex is terrible for all women. I think that if some guy that a homely girl thought was really hot hit on her for sex it wouldn't destroy her ego. I would say atleast half of the relationships I know of consist of a good looking guy with an average looking or homely girl, because the good looking guy has low self esteem (really common amongst young men these days) and will date a girl for the easy sex. This is why so many girls who are "5's" only want to date 8's, 9's, and 10's, they got it before, so they think they too are hot stuff.

 

BTW, I don't buy the personality thing. I've got 1 good female friend who I'm very close to, yet she isn't attracted to me (and no I'm not her friend for her looks, she is not out of my league at all either, I simply like her because we share a lot of very obscure interests and make each other laugh and have a lot of fun). I did flirt with her from the start, tried everything and nothing worked. If my personality, or the OP's personality, was actually creepy or detestable, than girls wouldn't come over to our homes, hang out with us all the time, etc. It's about how you look, and if you're not a 18-30 year old females "type" then you're not going to get anywhere even if you have the most exciting and compassionate personality on the planet.

[somedude81]

Read the story of the man with no dick if you ever want to feel better about yourself. Sadly he did end up killing himself but even he got a gf. This man lost his penis as a baby because of some stupid doctor. His parents were then told to remove his privates completely and raised him as a girl. Yet as a teenager he realized he was a man and rebelled. He got a gf’s.

 

The man with half a body, you may have seen him on Jerry Springer. (he worked on the show) He got gf's.

 

The boy born with no arms or legs, just stumps, he looked like just a torso. He got gf's.

 

The wolf boys who grow massive amounts of hair all over their faces. They got gf's.

 

The 600lb virgin who had the nick name and was known as the 600lb virgin… he got a gf.

 

Even the boy in the bubble got gf's. (he was real right)

If I had any one of those problems, I would have killed myself long ago.

What kind of speech impediment exactly, and how bad is it? This could be a big factor. I'm a pretty regular reader/poster here but I don't remember you talking about this before. Is it the kind that is treatable? I can more or less relate. I'm a stutterer and it makes me sound like a damn fool, especially if I'm not completely relaxed too. Listening to the audio recordings my legal writing professor has made of our conferences is rather embarrassing.

When I'm somewhat nervous it's like a word shows up in my head but I just can't say it. Usually it comes out horrible if I didn't catch it. It's impossible for me to talk at anything faster than a normal rate and even then I still get tripped up.

 

I went through six months of speech therapy and made a small amount of progress. They never really did figure out what my issue was.

 

Often it leads me to being too scared to open my mouth and start talking. It also sucks having to think of a different word to use once it's been "crossed out" in my head.

 

What's funny, is that I have absolutely no problem talking to myself out-loud when I'm alone. I never mess up. I can also read out-loud with no issue.

 

Oddly enough, when I talked to this really cute girl on the bus, I don't think I had any trouble speaking at all.

 

My voice/tone also sucks. I absolutely detest the way it sounds on recordings. I've also been made fun of when I was younger. I'm sure my voice isn't even remotely attractive.

Edited March 25, 2011 by somedude81

[TheBigQuestion]

I'm the opposite. I usually talk too fast and stumble over my words and leave out consonants. It sucks. I have to really concentrate to speak at a normal pace.

[Thedude22]

BTW, I don't buy the personality thing. I've got 1 good female friend who I'm very close to, yet she isn't attracted to me (and no I'm not her friend for her looks, she is not out of my league at all either, I simply like her because we share a lot of very obscure interests and make each other laugh and have a lot of fun). I did flirt with her from the start, tried everything and nothing worked. If my personality, or the OP's personality, was actually creepy or detestable, than girls wouldn't come over to our homes, hang out with us all the time, etc. It's about how you look, and if you're not a 18-30 year old females "type" then you're not going to get anywhere even if you have the most exciting and compassionate personality on the planet.

 

Ok here is your guys' dilemma and it is a perfectly understandable one: You are too nice. I know you hear that all the time with no explanation but let me break it down for you.

 

Men think logically: Men like girls who are nice to them + you want a girl+treat her how you would like to be treated= be as nice as possible to girl and she will love you.

 

Women think emotionally: Guy is super nice to girl-Girl does not believe she is worth that level of niceness-girl wonders why guy treats her that nice-Girl thinks there must be something wrong with guy but girl will still be his friend!

 

Make fun of girls sometimes and they will melt for you. She wears an ugly shirt-make fun of it etc. She'll get wet in the panties in a hurry and it's fun conversation.

[somedude81]

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Have you ever noticed that stupid guys always get laid more than smart fellas? You know why that is? They are too stupid to think beyond natural instinct. The though of "Well what if she isn't into guys like me" etc. etc isn't available to them so they are completely free of insecurity. The best thing you can do is don't think about it.

 

Alas, that is hard to do. I struggle with overthinking all the time. So what you have to do is isolate your positive qualities (everyone has them) and try to inflate them in your head to epic proportions.

Yeah, I am big over-thinker. I am always analyzing trying to figure out what the hell is wrong. Usually the answer is something negative and the only thing I accomplished was giving myself a headache.

 

While I'm sure I have positive qualities, it's not possible for me to see them just as positives.

 

Right now, I really enjoy ballroom dancing; salsa, tango, swing type stuff. I know that most don't do stuff like that so I have an edge over them. But I also know that I'm not good at all and there are guys who just blow me away. Of course the women would much rather dance with a guy whose good than with somebody who is bad, though still learning.

 

When it comes to school, I'm a terrible student, though that's mainly because of the depression.

 

I really can't think of any other positive qualities that would cancel out my negatives and get a woman to let me date her.

[Wolf18]

Read the story of the man with no dick if you ever want to feel better about yourself. Sadly he did end up killing himself but even he got a gf. This man lost his penis as a baby because of some stupid doctor. His parents were then told to remove his privates completely and raised him as a girl. Yet as a teenager he realized he was a man and rebelled. He got a gf’s.

 

The man with half a body, you may have seen him on Jerry Springer. (he worked on the show) He got gf's.

 

The boy born with no arms or legs, just stumps, he looked like just a torso. He got gf's.

 

The wolf boys who grow massive amounts of hair all over their faces. They got gf's.

 

The 600lb virgin who had the nick name and was known as the 600lb virgin… he got a gf.

 

Even the boy in the bubble got gf's. (he was real right)

 

Only thing stopping you is you. All this girls have it easier crap is pointless. I’m glad I’m a man and so are you. I’m sorry you can just sit in a bar and have men offer to buy you drinks but that isn’t reality. You can have it so good if you just make it so.

 

I don't know where you're getting your information from , but from personal experience I don't find this to be true. I know a kid whose paralyzed from the waist down, but is the life of the party, decent looking, and a truly great guy (and no , I'm not just saying this because he's disabled) and he has never had a girlfriend. (but lots of female friends ) I know another guy whose face was burned badly as a kid, and he's never had a girlfriend and told me he was a virgin and desperate for some romantic female company , but has had lots of female friends as well. I can go on as well. I know a guy whose 4'11 and an alpha male for all intents and purposes, and he is a 35 year old virgin. My friends cousin was born premature and his face is deformed (it looks a little better now after surgery though), and he too is desperate for a girlfriend, but even his mother told him that he should just visit a prostitute.

 

those guys you name are famous, and I doubt their girlfriends are actually sexually attracted to them (a lot of these guys have a lot of money from being on TV and in movies, and some of them live in 3rd world countries). I wouldn't judge women for not dating them either, I wouldn't date a girl who liked like wolfman or weighed 600 lbs. Let's be realistic though, your optimism

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LOL! So they go from a massive advantage to a big advantage?

 

No, my point was that they go from having a massive advantage gradually back down to a level playing field in which neither gender has an "advantage."

 

I'm not going to say I understand your bitterness as I've not been in your situation, but I will say I sympathize with you and you seem like a good person. I hope things look up for you (and I have a feeling they will).