Brokenlady Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 And yet another case in point to debunk the myth that MM never leave. Randy Hopper. http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/wis-gop-state-senators-wife-he-had-an-affair-now-lives-mostly-in-madison.php
bentnotbroken Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 Some do leave, some don't. They all display cowardly aspects by cheating in the first place. 1
OpenBook Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 A quick visit over to the Infidelity forum would be enough to debunk the myth. I don't know why anyone would want to get married at all, with that kind of heartache waiting for them down the road. I look at longtime couples IRL who proclaim to the world that they're happy and I think to myself "yeah right." I don't believe a word of it. Yup, I'm completely jaded. There's a big plank in my eye. Wonder how it got there.
greengoddess Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 :laugh: seriously? Of course some men leave. There are divorces everyday. Most honerable men leave their marriages first though before beginning a new relationship. I bet his wife threw his sorry butt out. I doubt he left. It would not have looked good politically. He probably begged to stay. 1
greengoddess Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 :laugh: with a 25 year old aide. Geeez it is so cliche. Old dick going through a midlife crises and the young 20 something thinking he's hot for an old man. I hope the 25 year old wins her prince. He will definitely be an old toad. Why do young women go for these types. 1
PorkRinds Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 And yet another case in point to debunk the myth that MM never leave. Randy Hopper. http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/wis-gop-state-senators-wife-he-had-an-affair-now-lives-mostly-in-madison.php That's the kind of man OW find attractive? Wow what a prize.
PorkRinds Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 :laugh: with a 25 year old aide. Geeez it is so cliche. Old dick going through a midlife crises and the young 20 something thinking he's hot for an old man. I hope the 25 year old wins her prince. He will definitely be an old toad. Why do young women go for these types. Some possible reasons: 1) Effin' their way to the top; for the power & connections they think they will reap; 2) Financial--purely mistress to a sugar daddy scenario; 3) And, drum roll please: "Daddy Issues." 1
greengoddess Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Some possible reasons: 1) Effin' their way to the top; for the power & connections they think they will reap; 2) Financial--purely mistress to a sugar daddy scenario; 3) And, drum roll please: "Daddy Issues." effin their way to the top only works if they don't get caught. This girl will never be looked at the same again in the workplace. The sad double standards are she will be thought of poorly, especially at 25 with this guy and he will be back slapped from his buddies for gettin sum of dat. 1
jthorne Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 The comments under the article are far more interesting than the article itself. It just sounds to me like another sad old fart that got caught cheating with a PYT. Sure he left (or was booted), but doesn't look to me like he was any kind of prize to begin with. Really, all it shows is how affairs destroy marriages, and possibly, careers.
donnamaybe Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 A pathetic story of a pathetic man who, yes, was probably kicked to the curb AND had much of his $$ siphoned away by divorce from the BS.
greengoddess Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 The comments under the article are far more interesting than the article itself. It just sounds to me like another sad old fart that got caught cheating with a PYT. Sure he left (or was booted), but doesn't look to me like he was any kind of prize to begin with. Really, all it shows is how affairs destroy marriages, and possibly, careers. The comments are brutal and we get called mean and nasty for wanting to help women remove themselves from affairs? Those comments are not from a web page of betrayed spouses but a real mix of people.
Author Brokenlady Posted March 24, 2011 Author Posted March 24, 2011 Nice try, but where does it say he left for an OW? It says he lives in Madison where he works. He could just as easily been kicked out on his sorry arse for refusing to stop being a POS cheater. That's what it looks like to me. OW must be desperate to think the myth is broken if the MM leaves because he is kicked out. That's not even a technicality. Hate to burst your bubble, but it's all over the Internet that he left for the ow. His w issued a statement saying she wanted to work on the M, but he refused.
Author Brokenlady Posted March 24, 2011 Author Posted March 24, 2011 Got to love his version of "family values" Yeah, I think he's a total douche, in no small part for political reasons.
greengoddess Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Hate to burst your bubble, but it's all over the Internet that he left for the ow. His w issued a statement saying she wanted to work on the M, but he refused. so is he still with his 25 year old?
donnamaybe Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Yeah, I think he's a total douche Say it like it be gal!
NoIDidn't Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Yeah, I think he's a total douche, in no small part for political reasons. I'm confused. Why would you post his story if you think he's total douche? Is the real point, the unintended one, that a MM that leaves for the OW is a "total douche"?
Author Brokenlady Posted March 24, 2011 Author Posted March 24, 2011 I'm confused. Why would you post his story if you think he's total douche? Is the real point, the unintended one, that a MM that leaves for the OW is a "total douche"? Not at all NID. He's a douche because he voted to end bargaining rights for public employees in Wisconsin. That vote is the reason for the recall effort that exposed his affair. My point with the original post is because I am soooo tired of every bs on ls pounding ow posters with this idea that mm never leave. They do, all the time in fact. My xMM left and got a D (too bad he turned out to be a total azz, but he did leave and did D).
donnamaybe Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Not at all NID. He's a douche because he voted to end bargaining rights for public employees in Wisconsin. That vote is the reason for the recall effort that exposed his affair. My point with the original post is because I am soooo tired of every bs on ls pounding ow posters with this idea that mm never leave. They do, all the time in fact. My xMM left and got a D (too bad he turned out to be a total azz, but he did leave and did D). I think what people actually say is that MM rarely leave. And that's true.
NoIDidn't Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Not at all NID. He's a douche because he voted to end bargaining rights for public employees in Wisconsin. That vote is the reason for the recall effort that exposed his affair. My point with the original post is because I am soooo tired of every bs on ls pounding ow posters with this idea that mm never leave. They do, all the time in fact. My xMM left and got a D (too bad he turned out to be a total azz, but he did leave and did D). We are obviously not reading the same site then. I read people state that the MM rarely ever leave, and that would be true. Infidelity ends marriages only 17% of the time, according to the stats (not interested in counter points about people lying on surveys and all). Most posters state that the MM rarely ever leaves for the OW. I can use the stats on this site to support my claim. I don't think your claim in the bold is anywhere near true either. Every BS on LS does not say what you claim. That claim doesn't support reality, as you are likely assuming some posters are BSs when they are not and all BSs haven't made such a statement. And the fact that you aren't with your MM and all the drama that ensued confuses me as to why its important to combat "LS Mythology" to begin with. There are a couple of threads here where the OPs tell the truth about reality after getting with the fMM. I'm sure that some MM do leave, but its rarely ever all rose-colored.
Snowflower Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 My point with the original post is because I am soooo tired of every bs on ls pounding ow posters with this idea that mm never leave. They do, all the time in fact. My xMM left and got a D (too bad he turned out to be a total azz, but he did leave and did D). BL, you have always been a kind poster so I don't understand why you have been so upset with the BS's here on LS lately. After all, the BS's here are not the BS in your situation so why do you care what they say? Your xMM did leave his wife. Yes, she fought the divorce but in the end they did divorce. He was one of the few who did leave. FWIW, I know that MM sometimes do leave so I certainly can't be counted in the "every BS says..." statement. I'm certain I've never said this because I've seen this in my own family and the resulting marriage between the MM (my uncle) and his OW/now wife has been a very long and happy marriage.
pureinheart Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Not at all NID. He's a douche because he voted to end bargaining rights for public employees in Wisconsin. That vote is the reason for the recall effort that exposed his affair. My point with the original post is because I am soooo tired of every bs on ls pounding ow posters with this idea that mm never leave. They do, all the time in fact. My xMM left and got a D (too bad he turned out to be a total azz, but he did leave and did D). Very true, mine did too, they do all of the time. I saw it, lived it, and did it myself. BL, I think it's interesting that we have the same individuals stating that it's rare...nope not rare.
Author Brokenlady Posted March 24, 2011 Author Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) I think my anger is really attributable to the fact that I allowed myself to internalize and believe some if the things "tough love" posters insisted "must" be true in my case. And so many of the things people said to me made me hate myself even more than i already did. It created a lot of unneccessary agony for me and it really wasn't true. I just wish certain posts from any kind of poster (but it does often come from BS posters, though not all) would stop insisting that someone see "reality", because so often it just isn't. For example I was told, my xDM would enever leave and never D. I was told that he HAD to still be sleeping with is xW. Wrong. But it caused me so much more anguish because I believed it. Some of that stuff may be true in some cases, but to insist that people know for sure what will happen with an OW poster is both inaccurate and unhelpful. Other people have seen it - the so-called universal truths that MM "never leave" or they always go back or the MM doesn't love the OW, all that stuff - no one here could possibly know that and it really bothers me that certain posters insist this must be the case whenever a vulnerable OW posts here. Edited March 25, 2011 by a LoveShack.org Moderator
Snowflower Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Thank you for explaining and for your honesty, BL.
bentnotbroken Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Not at all NID. He's a douche because he voted to end bargaining rights for public employees in Wisconsin. That vote is the reason for the recall effort that exposed his affair. My point with the original post is because I am soooo tired of every bs on ls pounding ow posters with this idea that mm never leave. They do, all the time in fact. My xMM left and got a D (too bad he turned out to be a total azz, but he did leave and did D). And I am sooo tired of some AP saying every BS this and every BS that....that is crap and you know. WE don't all believe the same. Some of know WS leave, some of us know they get their behinds kicked out, some of us know they stay, some of us blame the WS and AP, some of us only blame the WS, some of us don't blame either of them, we blame ourselves instead. That complaint about BS always painting with the same broad brush, maybe you should try putting that same brush down. And yes I think he is douche like so many others.
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