Els Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 The problem is that all young women are shallow. Since shallow applies to all of them, it can safely be dropped. So then what's left is having young men bemoaning the loss of women. A warning. Before posting something defending that you are not shallow, consider who the author of this post is. A man who has been rejected by every woman he was ever interested in. *shrugs* Just because every woman who has rejected HIS advances is shallow (and we have no proof that the author himself isn't, in fact) doesn't mean that those of us who are legitimately not shallow somehow do not exist. I am pretty convinced that I am real; at least more convinced than I am about him or you being real. I doubt you would be very happy with my 18-year-old self who'd not had a single bf up to that point, claiming that no men have ever been interested in me, ergo all young men are shallow. Frankly, I know more shallow young men than I do shallow young women.
EasyHeart Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 I think women are so used to the massive advantage they have in the dating world while in their 20's, that upon entering their 30's and beyond, the playing field simply becoming more level (i.e. neither side having an "advantage") can just feel like a disadvantage. And I'd think attractive, intelligent women would have no trouble getting dates regardless of their age. Oh, and it's worth noting that before joining LS (after I had already met my current bf) I had no idea of all these dating politics: advantages, disadvantages, and whatnot. I think by continuing to discuss these things we are merely perpetuating them, but I doubt it's going to stop any time soon. :]I agree with both of these points. Well said. There's not much we can do about the first point, but the second is completely within each person's control. Some to the things I see posted here (from both men and women) make me shudder. I don't think we should stop discussing them, though -- discussing them at least brings it out into the open. But there is obviously a lot of anger and bitterness that many posters (male and female) feel against the opposite gender. I don't see how anyone can have a healthy relationship with so much bitterness.
Els Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 I agree with the second point, but not so much the first. The only young women who are really 'advantaged' over young men are the extremely attractive young women, not the majority.
GivenUp0083 Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 In my opinion, we an probably pin point it down to women approaching 40, that range between 35 and 40...is really when a woman would probably want to start being less picky (i.e. - start being open to dating men less than 6 feet in height, start dating those guys that are bald or with receding hair lines, start dating guys with less strapping good looks and more on the average side, just start being more aware of your mortality and as one ages, flaws start to show and of course women need to realize men are just as physical flaws as well) Some women in their 40's, STILL have high expetactions though and can still be superficial, and I guess some are trying to still relive their youth of when they could attract the "Tall, dark and handsome types", and are still stuck in that rut. It's funny, because I saw this profile of a woman that is 49 years old...no jokes, she said "Please be OVER 6 feet tall not AT 6 feet tall, oh and please be good looking, not because your mother told you to, but ...well...just because you are." And she wasn't that much to look at physically, being that she is from more of a small town, she looked the part, too. At 49, and with the way she looked, I was wondering what her deal was expecting to date a guy with the kind of appearance she was desiring. You see people, IRC thinks that if you are single, then finding a boyfriend should be like finding a job. You should just settle for something you won't like because you NEED to have one. I don't think he really finds profiles or women requirements to be funny, I think he has serious low self-esteem issues and thinks that his only chance to find someone is if they lower their standards to his level. Truth is though, no one wants to be with someone they felt they had to lower standards for, nor would I ever want to be with a girl I felt had to lower her standards to be with me. The goal is to hit a home run in both party's eyes. She wants a catch, and so should you. So be a catch. not because she's being a cougar about it What does this statement even mean?
irc333 Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 I find it funny that you only care what I say in my posts compared to anyone else in this 6 pager. lol Is this some lame attempt to keep singling me out? I thought you've "Given up". lol You see people, IRC thinks that if you are single, then finding a boyfriend should be like finding a job. You should just settle for something you won't like because you NEED to have one. I don't think he really finds profiles or women requirements to be funny, I think he has serious low self-esteem issues and thinks that his only chance to find someone is if they lower their standards to his level. Truth is though, no one wants to be with someone they felt they had to lower standards for, nor would I ever want to be with a girl I felt had to lower her standards to be with me. The goal is to hit a home run in both party's eyes. She wants a catch, and so should you. So be a catch. What does this statement even mean?
somedude81 Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 *shrugs* Just because every woman who has rejected HIS advances is shallow (and we have no proof that the author himself isn't, in fact) doesn't mean that those of us who are legitimately not shallow somehow do not exist. I am pretty convinced that I am real; at least more convinced than I am about him or you being real. I doubt you would be very happy with my 18-year-old self who'd not had a single bf up to that point, claiming that no men have ever been interested in me, ergo all young men are shallow. Frankly, I know more shallow young men than I do shallow young women. Your 18 year old self would have rejected me
GivenUp0083 Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 I find it funny that you only care what I say in my posts compared to anyone else in this 6 pager. lol Is this some lame attempt to keep singling me out? I thought you've "Given up". lol I find it funny that in a "6 pager" that your statements are the most ridiculous every time. lol I don't need to single you out, you single yourself out. As for me giving up, it refers to the over-analyzing and irrational justifications I used to commit. I've given up trying too hard to please others and find the reasoning in everything involving dating. I took on a new approach to "just go with it" and to find ways to be a happy person regardless of my relationships status or dating situations. You should try it, then maybe your fingers wouldn't hurt so much since you're always crossing them hoping a woman will lower her standards to give you a chance.
irc333 Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 I don't expect a woman to lower her standards standards for me, you can't make anyone do anything, but it makes for valid topic as to why some people, both men and women, who are chronically and keep themselves single indefinately. Friends and family even see them as a bit unrealistic expectations, which says a lot. Friends and family, when hearing their single friends complaint about why they can't find anyone decent, they know her/his plight, and they eventually say, "Seriously, we are well aware of your criteria, and we think you're just being unrealistic in your expectations, so perhaps you should start considering men of all hair color, instead of just a single hair color" Men, same thing, they're friends and family suggest to them, to consider different various sizes of breasts, instead of just D cups or higher. I personally believe a person won't be UNhappy at all actually, if they wind up dating outside of their criteria, I've known people to do this, and admittedly said that even though they typically find themselves attracted to a certain physical parameter, they wound up marrying someone contrary to what they desired. So I'm thinking someone did lower their "standards" (if that's what it's called, I think it's just called being realistic in what they're seeking in a mate, and it's really not settling at all, they've just convinced themselves a dealbreaker if they're aren't 6 feet tall.) Anyhow, I think that a person who does wind up budging in their criteria, that actually gave someone a shot at a different breast size or hair color or whatever....I bank on the fact that they would not be unhappy if they wound up someone with the criteria they did not exactly want. As far as this post is concerned....as people get older, some do tend to become aware of their silly criteria, and finally date the men or women they had no interest in. Personally, I think they are just looking for the bigger better deal, I actually think that a certain guy that doesn't meet a certain criteria of said individual, IS attracted to that person, however, they'll figure, "Well, I'll turn this guy down, and see if there's something even better out there." I find it funny that in a "6 pager" that your statements are the most ridiculous every time. lol I don't need to single you out, you single yourself out. As for me giving up, it refers to the over-analyzing and irrational justifications I used to commit. I've given up trying too hard to please others and find the reasoning in everything involving dating. I took on a new approach to "just go with it" and to find ways to be a happy person regardless of my relationships status or dating situations. You should try it, then maybe your fingers wouldn't hurt so much since you're always crossing them hoping a woman will lower her standards to give you a chance.
Leeway Harris Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 I find it funny when somebody gets a huge boner for somebody on a message board and follows him from thread to thread sniping at all of his posts. Seriously, GivenUp, just give it up already.
irc333 Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 Agreed...I mean, it's one thing if I started the post myself, but when I make a mere reply to another person's post, and somehow I'm weeded out of this 6 page post, kinda wierd. I find it funny when somebody gets a huge boner for somebody on a message board and follows him from thread to thread sniping at all of his posts. Seriously, GivenUp, just give it up already.
depplover_1980 Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 Well I'm only 30 but i'm so popular I have to beat them off with a stick, though some guys like me to do it the normal way!
Leeway Harris Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 Well I'm only 30 but i'm so popular I have to beat them off with a stick, though some guys like me to do it the normal way! <rimshot> .
depplover_1980 Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 <rimshot> . Hey what is a rimshot, another insult for arsehole??
Mr.Cairo Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) I don't expect a woman to lower her standards standards for me, you can't make anyone do anything, but it makes for valid topic as to why some people, both men and women, who are chronically and keep themselves single indefinately. Friends and family even see them as a bit unrealistic expectations, which says a lot. Friends and family, when hearing their single friends complaint about why they can't find anyone decent, they know her/his plight, and they eventually say, "Seriously, we are well aware of your criteria, and we think you're just being unrealistic in your expectations, so perhaps you should start considering men of all hair color, instead of just a single hair color" Men, same thing, they're friends and family suggest to them, to consider different various sizes of breasts, instead of just D cups or higher. I personally believe a person won't be UNhappy at all actually, if they wind up dating outside of their criteria, I've known people to do this, and admittedly said that even though they typically find themselves attracted to a certain physical parameter, they wound up marrying someone contrary to what they desired. So I'm thinking someone did lower their "standards" (if that's what it's called, I think it's just called being realistic in what they're seeking in a mate, and it's really not settling at all, they've just convinced themselves a dealbreaker if they're aren't 6 feet tall.) Anyhow, I think that a person who does wind up budging in their criteria, that actually gave someone a shot at a different breast size or hair color or whatever....I bank on the fact that they would not be unhappy if they wound up someone with the criteria they did not exactly want. As far as this post is concerned....as people get older, some do tend to become aware of their silly criteria, and finally date the men or women they had no interest in. Personally, I think they are just looking for the bigger better deal, I actually think that a certain guy that doesn't meet a certain criteria of said individual, IS attracted to that person, however, they'll figure, "Well, I'll turn this guy down, and see if there's something even better out there." All of that just to say that women should give a chance to men they aren't attracted to? Buddy, nature made women feel the most attraction for the taller guys for a reason. Go google it or something. If the guys complaining about women only wanting 6 feet tall guys could pick what they want: who would you choose ? Average jane or the best good looking gal out there? Sorry. I forget that men are all goodness and have nothing wrong. It's pretty simple. If every woman tomorrow decided to only date guys above the height of 6 feet, or decided they'd only look at men with natural muscles: that's their right. You lot would just have to deal with it, and what's the big deal after all? Plenty of human beings died virgins and they didn't cry about it. Edited March 25, 2011 by Mr.Cairo
Mr.Cairo Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) The problem is that all young women are shallow. Since shallow applies to all of them, it can safely be dropped. So then what's left is having young men bemoaning the loss of women. A warning. Before posting something defending that you are not shallow, consider who the author of this post is. A man who has been rejected by every woman he was ever interested in. Just the guys who aren't attractive or the guys without money, so what's the problem again? Buddy, you've rejected the women who were interested in you. You forget to mention that, don't ya? You weren't attracted to them, you say. And you ever thought that most women aren't attracted to you? So a woman is shallow because she rejects you when the fault of that is entirely yours? Is she to blame for your 5'6'' height? Or how you have no job, go to college at the age of 26, enjoy Japanese cartoons and hit on women in their late teens and early 20's. Seriously, if you are all of this how can you expect attractive women to want you? Especially when you think of women as 'shallow', 'bitches' and put a woman's value entirely on how attractive she is. Edited March 25, 2011 by Mr.Cairo
Leeway Harris Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 Hey what is a rimshot, another insult for arsehole?? No, when old-timey comedians would deliver their punchlines, the drummer in the house band would tap out a drum lick, so the audience would know it was time to laugh. It sounded like this: badum-TISSSHHHHH. It was called a "rimshot". You arsehole. j/k
Leeway Harris Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 Or how you have no job, go to college at the age of 26, enjoy Japanese cartoons and hit on women in their late teens and early 20's. Seriously, if you are all of this how can you expect attractive women to want you? Especially when you think of women as 'shallow', 'bitches' and put a woman's value entirely on how attractive she is. And speaking of posters with boycrushes, how long do you plan to live in somedude's ass, Mr.Cairo?
depplover_1980 Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 No, when old-timey comedians would deliver their punchlines, the drummer in the house band would tap out a drum lick, so the audience would know it was time to laugh. It sounded like this: badum-TISSSHHHHH. It was called a "rimshot". You arsehole. j/k Kool and the motherfooking gang! I get requests for 'rimjobs', is that the same?
Stung Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 Kool and the motherfooking gang! I get requests for 'rimjobs', is that the same? You'll get a very different reaction if you bring a drumstick to a rimjob.
depplover_1980 Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 You'll get a very different reaction if you bring a drumstick to a rimjob. Why don't they need beating off with a rhythm at the same time?
Els Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Your 18 year old self would have rejected me What makes you think you would have asked my 18 year old self out instead of chasing after the 'hotter' girls in class?
somedude81 Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Simple; I go after girls with common interests versus just looks. As long as the girl is cute enough, which I'm sure you were because you never mentioned yourself being overweight and most young women are cute. The whole reason I took the time to get to know my most recent crush, is because she had this on her backpack. She also turned out to be a huge gamer. So it's cute enough, plus common interests, plus how we get along.
Author Eternal Sunshine Posted March 28, 2011 Author Posted March 28, 2011 Frankly, I don't believe that any sex has an advantage over the other at any age. That is, unless you live in an area with a largish discrepancy in numbers of males and females. Attractive and emotionally healthy members of each sex will do well and have large number of options.
GivenUp0083 Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 I don't expect a woman to lower her standards standards for me, you can't make anyone do anything, but it makes for valid topic as to why some people, both men and women, who are chronically and keep themselves single indefinately. So I'm thinking someone did lower their "standards" (if that's what it's called, I think it's just called being realistic in what they're seeking in a mate, and it's really not settling at all, they've just convinced themselves a dealbreaker if they're aren't 6 feet tall.) Anyhow, I think that a person who does wind up budging in their criteria, that actually gave someone a shot at a different breast size or hair color or whatever....I bank on the fact that they would not be unhappy if they wound up someone with the criteria they did not exactly want. As far as this post is concerned....as people get older, some do tend to become aware of their silly criteria, and finally date the men or women they had no interest in. Personally, I think they are just looking for the bigger better deal, I actually think that a certain guy that doesn't meet a certain criteria of said individual, IS attracted to that person, however, they'll figure, "Well, I'll turn this guy down, and see if there's something even better out there." You put WAY too much thought into this, man. WHO CARES IF OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SILLY CRITERIA?? Why would you want to date them anyway? There are plenty of sensible and smart women out there, why do you continue to bitch and moan about the same women you claim are so ridiculous? Move on! They aren't worth your time...but you refuse to understand that. I find it funny when somebody gets a huge boner for somebody on a message board and follows him from thread to thread sniping at all of his posts. Seriously, GivenUp, just give it up already. I post on a lot of threads, and I have the right to have my say about anything on this thread as much as anyone else. It's called a first ammendment right, freedom of speech and freedom to express thought. It's great you find it entertaining, and I don't follow anyone, I post on here maybe twice a week and I just like to call people out on their stupidity. Now I can lump you in with that crowd All of that just to say that women should give a chance to men they aren't attracted to? Buddy, nature made women feel the most attraction for the taller guys for a reason. Go google it or something. If the guys complaining about women only wanting 6 feet tall guys could pick what they want: who would you choose ? Average jane or the best good looking gal out there? Sorry. I forget that men are all goodness and have nothing wrong. It's pretty simple. If every woman tomorrow decided to only date guys above the height of 6 feet, or decided they'd only look at men with natural muscles: that's their right. You lot would just have to deal with it, and what's the big deal after all? Plenty of human beings died virgins and they didn't cry about it. Dude, he's been doing this for months. He whines and cries when women reject him and chalks it up to ridiculous standards or criteria, then wants other people to jump on the bandwagon with him on ripping on these women he "claims" to care nothing about. Deep down he's hurt and insecure. He probably can't even go to the bathroom without Leeway holding his hand the whole way.
Els Posted March 29, 2011 Posted March 29, 2011 No, when old-timey comedians would deliver their punchlines, the drummer in the house band would tap out a drum lick, so the audience would know it was time to laugh. It sounded like this: badum-TISSSHHHHH. It was called a "rimshot". You arsehole. j/k I always thought a rimshot was using the rim of the snare instead of the middle for the beats.
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