carhill Posted March 13, 2011 Posted March 13, 2011 Carhill...level with us. You banged a dude, didn't you? It's ok you are amongst friends here. I have to admit that, at the time, had she wished to date me, I would have had no reservations. If I understood her correctly, she was complete surgically, so 'normal' sex was possible. Alas, she was never to become one of that shocking four recounted here.
Kamille Posted March 13, 2011 Posted March 13, 2011 Sacha is gorgeous and very sharp. Nice pic of him here.... http://www.shockya.com/news/wp-content/uploads/sacha_baron_cohen_golden_globes.jpg That is what I was thinking - I don't understand how he is not at leasat an 8-9 Aaah Sacha! http://www.inquisitr.com/31755/sacha-baron-cohen-will-play-a-spoof-european-pop-star-in-his-next-movie/
somedude81 Posted March 13, 2011 Posted March 13, 2011 LOL, indeed Sacha himself would be further up that list. If you look at the categories he has high charisma and of course he has plenty of money. But the character Borat belongs where he is.
SmileFace Posted March 13, 2011 Posted March 13, 2011 LOL, indeed Sacha himself would be further up that list. If you look at the categories he has high charisma and of course he has plenty of money. But the character Borat belongs where he is. No, I will so bang Borat...."sexy time!"
LeaningIntoTheMuse Posted March 13, 2011 Posted March 13, 2011 LOL, indeed Sacha himself would be further up that list. If you look at the categories he has high charisma and of course he has plenty of money. But the character Borat belongs where he is. Whenever I think of Sacha, I think of him dive bombing Eminem at the MTV music awards a few years ago.
threebyfate Posted March 13, 2011 Posted March 13, 2011 Aaah Sacha! http://www.inquisitr.com/31755/sacha-baron-cohen-will-play-a-spoof-european-pop-star-in-his-next-movie/He's the kind of guy that cleans up quite nicely! As far as looks are concerned for women, the more superficial the partner, the greater impact it has on partner selection. That's not to say that it doesn't matter since attraction starts with the physical considering how people rarely know each other well enough prior to dating. But I'm sure many of you have had the experience of being physically wow'd, talking to them and finding attraction doing the spandau ballet when you realize they're dumber than a bag of hammers with no sense of humour to speak of. But then, that's from my female perspective. Perhaps the vast majority of men think differently and if so, I'm so glad I'm not part of the meat market anymore.
Kamille Posted March 13, 2011 Posted March 13, 2011 I love that this thread is turning into a discussion of the many qualities of Sacha Baron Cohen. His style versatility is indeed one of his strong points, but really, it's the smarts that get me. He is simply a brilliant man. And no, I probably wouldn't look twice at someone sporting that bathing suit. Or rather, I would, but I probably wouldn't take his approaches seriously. I have however, dated men who sported mustaches and dated international migrants (none of whom ever sported a mustache or that bathing suit). While I tend to date people who have roughly the same education I do (college degree or more), I can sincerely say Loot has never been a factor.
Author Eternal Sunshine Posted March 13, 2011 Author Posted March 13, 2011 I couldn't care less about loot or juice. I only want a man with a stable job and some ambition, even if the job pays poorly. Education plays a part because more educated men tend to speak in a certain way that I connect with better. But it's really more about connection than the education. I wish they had that scale based purely on looks.
somedude81 Posted March 13, 2011 Posted March 13, 2011 I couldn't care less about loot or juice. I only want a man with a stable job and some ambition, even if the job pays poorly. Education plays a part because more educated men tend to speak in a certain way that I connect with better. But it's really more about connection than the education. I wish they had that scale based purely on looks. Heh, they already covered that. "For some low cats in our society, a “good man with a job” is Juice enough." Though I don't know what he means by low cats. Charisma covers the connection you're talking about. There isn't any need for 1-10 scale of men based on looks. Simply because while looks are important, there are other factors that women look for as well.
jean-luc sisko Posted March 13, 2011 Posted March 13, 2011 It's very important, but not everything. Attractiveness is holistic, looks is just one (albeit the major) component.
Kamille Posted March 13, 2011 Posted March 13, 2011 There isn't any need for 1-10 scale of men based on looks. Simply because while looks are important, there are other factors that women look for as well. aaaah... Don't men look for other factors as well? Maybe not when the objective is sex, but when looking for a potential LTR partner? Or even just dating? (Who wants to go on a date with someone with whom you don't have much in common). The more I read this board, the more I think that the biggest problem that some of you guys face is that you give way too much power to women because you focus way too much on superficial stuff.
Ginger Beer Posted March 13, 2011 Posted March 13, 2011 I forgot to ask men on here this: Imagine that you can have a girl that is a 9 or 10. Then imagine that she is a bimbo, that you have nothing in common, that conversation is always strained and you have nothing to talk about. Yet, she is still somehow interested in a LTR with you, even marriage. Would you have a LTR with such a woman? No; personality is mainly what I go for, there are plenty of girls that are nice to look at that I've been interested in but then you get to know them and there is nothing there. Conversely, there are numerous girls I didn't notice at first but after becoming friends I realised they were special etc, you get the point. I don't go for looks, but they help in catching my attention.
somedude81 Posted March 13, 2011 Posted March 13, 2011 aaaah... Don't men look for other factors as well? Maybe not when the objective is sex, but when looking for a potential LTR partner? Or even just dating? (Who wants to go on a date with someone with whom you don't have much in common). Of course we do, but it's secondary. Looking at a girl and seeing that she's hot and being attracted to her, is an automatic subconscious reaction. As it's commonly known, men are very visual. If I don't think she's attractive enough, odds are I won't even bother having a conversation with her. A woman's looks are enough to make a man want to sleep with a her. When it comes to actual relationships, the other factors start to have importance. The more I read this board, the more I think that the biggest problem that some of you guys face is that you give way too much power to women because you focus way too much on superficial stuff.Can you clarify?
Grinning Maniac Posted March 13, 2011 Posted March 13, 2011 I forgot to ask men on here this: Imagine that you can have a girl that is a 9 or 10. Then imagine that she is a bimbo, that you have nothing in common, that conversation is always strained and you have nothing to talk about. Yet, she is still somehow interested in a LTR with you, even marriage. Would you have a LTR with such a woman? No. I would be bored. I wouldn't be able to do it. I need to be able to respect and be captivated by a woman in order to be with her. Looks are important, but the other part has to be there too.
crossfitter Posted March 13, 2011 Posted March 13, 2011 No. I would be bored. I wouldn't be able to do it. I need to be able to respect and be captivated by a woman in order to be with her. Looks are important, but the other part has to be there too. Couldn't have said it better myself.
ConflictedGuy27 Posted March 13, 2011 Posted March 13, 2011 I both dated and later married a "stunner" as you say. She'd rank about an 8.5. With larger breasts, dear lord she could have easily climbed into the 9s. She was a bitch though. She wouldn't demonstrate that fact immediately, however, after year one of dating and beyond she certainly didn't mind reminding me of her bitchiness at least a few times a month. We married and later divorced and I chose to begin dating again about 6 months after we separated. All that said, let me tell you, personality trumps all. Yes, physical attraction is required in a relationship, but deciding to move forward based on looks alone is a fools errand, trust me. I dated about 3 other women before I decided to quasi settle down with my current girl friend. My current girl friend would rate about a 6.8 (with her clothes on). She's extremely conservative about her body (doesn't show much cleavage), seldom wears makeup (doesn't need it) and will wear her hair however she wants to. She's confident in herself and that's what turns me on. In my opinion, looks matter, but above and beyond that, you should look for a woman who doesn't require you or anyone else to make her happy. Her happiness must be self generating, otherwise (and whether she's a knock out or not), the relationship will fail. I would gladly sacrifice as much as 4 to 5 points in the looks department for 4 to 5 points added to the personality/compatibility department.
Untouchable_Fire Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 That's hilarious, but seriously, Sacha Baron Cohen is the hottest guy of that bunch, even as Borat. Sexy daring sense of humor gets me every time. I SBC. And I wouldn't give much cred to what a male blogger thinks women want. SBC actually makes sense. The guy is fairly handsome, rich, and famous. Now... Borat... that character was a douche... and I doubt you want the date type of guy... which is what the picture was depicting. In regards to what that male blogger says... it's kind of a DUH statement. When it comes to advice on women... take advice from men who are successful with women first. Advice about women from women is usually really bad, unless you really define the question well.
Kamille Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 In regards to what that male blogger says... it's kind of a DUH statement. When it comes to advice on women... take advice from men who are successful with women first. Advice about women from women is usually really bad, unless you really define the question well. Underlined for emphasis. The successful men on these boards are far from touting some of the stereptypical stuff that the unsuccessful men believe to be gospel. Pyro and Art Critic jump to mind as two men who have always been successful with establishing loving relationships with women. I would love it if more men paid attention to their advice and commend those who do.
Kamille Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 The more I read this board, the more I think that the biggest problem that some of you guys face is that you give way too much power to women because you focus way too much on superficial stuff. Can you clarify? By saying that looks are more important than personality, you're effect giving away your power to choose whether or not someone is worthy of your time. It makes me wonder how you interact with women you deem to be beautiful. I'm willing to be a man who pays attention to personality before looks probably has better luck with women - because he isn't putting himself at the mercy of beauty. Not to mention, when you make personality a criteria, you're also likely to start asking her questions to get to know her, and start paying attention to how she carries herself. You start paying attention to who she is, not what she looks like, which, believe it or not, probably makes the conversation way more interesting for her.
Woggle Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 I admit I am looking at this from a straight man's point of view but I don't get the sex appeal of Borat.
somedude81 Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 (edited) Ha ha ha! How am I supposed to pay attention to personality before looks? I'm going to avoid using a smart-ass comment since you're a nice person. Kamille, both men and women notice looks first. No gender is innocent of judging a person based on how they look without getting to know them first. It makes me wonder how you interact with women you deem to be beautiful. The only difference is when I consider a woman to be attractive, I make more effort in keeping a conversation going. Conversely, if I don't think a girl is attractive, I wouldn't try to maintain a conversation. With her looks she's only passed the first test. Then I want to talk to and interact with her, to see who she is. If she seems mean or disinterested, I move on; no matter how hot she is. How do you think I interact with women? Putting myself at the mercy of beauty? That's a funny thought. I can't relate to that at all. Edited March 14, 2011 by somedude81
Duckduckgoose Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 I was reading some of the posts on how women don't just go for looks. I agree with that. There are a lot of other factors that play into whether we would date/marry a man. However if they are really lacking in the looks department they have to make up for it BIGTIME with other things. A guy that is a 5 in looks, but a 7 or 8 in personality with a good job and no major issues won't have trouble finding a woman. On the other hand... some guy I have been talking to/hanging out with rates like a 4 (maybe) in looks. His personality is about a 6-8 (he's sometimes a bit shy)... he's rich out of his mind so he would be stable in the financial department and has a good job. My biggest problem with this guy is that its really hard for me to feel physically attracted to him. His personality, nice car, nice house, huge bankroll, common interests, etc can only carry him so far. If only he was a 5 or 6 this would be so much easier for me. As it stands right now if the water in the pot gets much hotter imma have to jump out.
Kamille Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 Ha ha ha! How am I supposed to pay attention to personality before looks? . The expression I used was clearly meant to indicate: Once you see a girl you think is attractive, approach her and base further interactions on her personality. Forget about her looks. Let her personality guide your interaction, not her looks. It's really not rocket science. Sheessh. You guys have these little gospel tidbits: "Ooh, everyone is attracted to looks first". Yeah. Big Woop. I noticed bf because he was attractive, but only decided to give him my number because I liked his personality. Saying looks trump personality is shallow. It must lead to some very unfulfilling interactions. What do you do once you've seen a pretty woman? Do you cast away all judgement just because she meets your standards? My advice is simple: don't.
Duckduckgoose Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 Well here comes something horribly shallow sorry to say. If you are just not physically attracted to them its really going to be hard to "make it happen". Why? Because as awesome as their personality may be, as stable and smart as they are, as financially independent as they might be... You can't **** their personality... you just can't. Its only going to hurt the other person if they wonder why you are shutting your eyes and thinking of something else when you are being physical with them. If I get told to burn in hell for this so be it.
TouchedByViolet Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 Well here comes something horribly shallow sorry to say. If you are just not physically attracted to them its really going to be hard to "make it happen". Why? Because as awesome as their personality may be, as stable and smart as they are, as financially independent as they might be... You can't **** their personality... you just can't. Its only going to hurt the other person if they wonder why you are shutting your eyes and thinking of something else when you are being physical with them. If I get told to burn in hell for this so be it. Yup. The desire to bang has to be there. Passion and a minimum amount of lust are required for quality sex. People who struggle in the looks department have to work that much harder to find dates and romantic partners. Just a simple truth. I like your new avatar
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