Darren Taylor Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Haha this is such bull......... haha Take it from someone that's 6'2".
SmileFace Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Take it from someone that's 6'2". Take it from someone who doesn't fancy taller guys
SteveC80 Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Yep. Take 2 guys that are the same in every category except height. Guy A is 6'0" and guy B is 5'9". Guy A will win. Just the way it is. That's one way, but not necessarily required. Good looking, freakishly talented in something, Chris Rock-esque funny. Those will trump any negative qualities. Being a tall man is like being born rich and handed a sucessful business,just dont f anythign up and youre good. Short guys can get women but they have to jump through hoops and are never given he benefit of the doubt or any rope
Darren Taylor Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Being a tall man is like being born rich and handed a sucessful business,just dont f anythign up and youre good. Short guys can get women but they have to jump through hoops and are never given he benefit of the doubt or any rope Being tall in itself doesn't guarantee you the world. No doubt it's a significant advantage, but plenty of tall people are dorky looking. If Michael Phelps wasn't an Olympic gold medalist, you think he'd be able to get models? Hell no.
Content Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Yep. Take 2 guys that are the same in every category except height. Guy A is 6'0" and guy B is 5'9". Guy A will win. Just the way it is. That's one way, but not necessarily required. Good looking, freakishly talented in something, Chris Rock-esque funny. Those will trump any negative qualities. Your example is horrible you act as if life plays out like one big reality dating show where two guys get in front of a girl and she picks the taller one it doesnt work that way... Im 5'8 and have had plenty of sucess with women, i really dont care if according to you my 6 foot clone may have gotten six more women then me life isnt a pissing contest to me
Romeofud Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 I've come here to continue a debate I began last night with my best friend of a few years :-) We were out having a quick after work drink when she was approached by a guy in the bar who asked for her number. My friend is married so obviously said no! This is not the first time she has been approached whilst we have been out ( I can remember at least four) and she regularly gets guys who are interested when we attend work events such as conferences etc. I joked about the lack of guys who have ever approached me who I did not previously know in some capacity (e.g. friends, work colleges etc) which stands at a grand total of zero! She said it was because guys have 'no imagination when it comes to women.' When I asked her to explain this she said that the majority of guys only find one type of woman attractive. Here it would be helpful to explain some more about me and my friend! We are in the looks department complete opposites!! Not in the level of attractiveness per se but in our respective styles. My friend is dark, slim but curvy, very big fake boobs, lots of make-up, dressed rather 'glamourously', always in very high heeled shoes... (I've been on holiday with her and it takes about 2 hours to achieve her look in the morning whereas mine is about 30mins!) Me on the other hand...slim but not curvy! small boobs, blonde hair, petite (I have to buy children's sized clothes sometimes...) 'quirky' dress sense, inspired by trips to charity shops and what I can work up on my sewing machine, wear glasses (though they are quite funky glasses), prefer the natural make-up look etc. Now my friend thinks that guys only really go for her style as that what men tend to be into and that they don't have enough imagination and watch too much porn to appreciate anything else. I attempted to maintain this was not true and have faith that guys are not just interested in one 'type' of woman :-) But what do others think? Is it easier to attract a guys attention if you fit a particular stereotype? Do guy's have a similar problem? Let the debate continue... Men are just excluding you from their approach, that's all, finding your friend with the fake boob-job a little more desirable. Deal with it or spruce up in the looks department. Maybe you'll get some checking you out then.
Darren Taylor Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Your example is horrible you act as if life plays out like one big reality dating show where two guys get in front of a girl and she picks the taller one it doesnt work that way... Im 5'8 and have had plenty of sucess with women, i really dont care if according to you my 6 foot clone may have gotten six more women then me life isnt a pissing contest to me It also comes down to knowing what your league is. If you're average height, earn an average salary, have an average personality, and have average looks, you can't expect to get the supermodel. Doesn't work that way. And I said all things being equal. If everything is equal but height, the taller of the two will win out.
fishtaco Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Your example is horrible you act as if life plays out like one big reality dating show where two guys get in front of a girl and she picks the taller one it doesnt work that way... Im 5'8 and have had plenty of sucess with women, i really dont care if according to you my 6 foot clone may have gotten six more women then me life isnt a pissing contest to me Google it. Plenty of studies have been done about physical attractiveness. Taller is better. But, it's not like someone that isn't tall has no chance. The world is not black and white. It's a gradient. 5'8" isn't too bad. 5'0", you'll have more problems. 6'2, you'll have less problems. I'm Asian. Go ask your female friends, and see how many of them are looking for an "Asian boyfriend". I bet you, very few. Asian men is rarely on their list. But I do alright anyway. If I were a good looking 6'2 Italian guy, I'd do better. But it's not like because I'm not, I have zero chance for success. Women are complicated creatures. It takes more than a single attribute to win them over. But being tall is a trait that helps. And this is not a pissing contest. This is describing the way of the world.
Darren Taylor Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Google it. Plenty of studies have been done about physical attractiveness. Taller is better. But, it's not like someone that isn't tall has no chance. The world is not black and white. It's a gradient. 5'8" isn't too bad. 5'0", you'll have more problems. 6'2, you'll have less problems. I'm Asian. Go ask your female friends, and see how many of them are looking for an "Asian boyfriend". I bet you, very few. Asian men is rarely on their list. But I do alright anyway. If I were a good looking 6'2 Italian guy, I'd do better. But it's not like because I'm not, I have zero chance for success. Women are complicated creatures. It takes more than a single attribute to win them over. But being tall is a trait that helps. And this is not a pissing contest. This is describing the way of the world. Yep. Just going by reality. Nothing against short, fat, whatever, but certain traits make it easier/harder. Some have height, some have good looks, some have charisma, some have great personalities, some have money, and some have some combination. I'm 6'2" and I can say for a fact that I have it much easier than someone that's 5'8". Fortunately, I have good looks to go with my height. But, I wasn't blessed with being naturally tan and I only weigh 170. No one is the total package.
Content Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Google it. Plenty of studies have been done about physical attractiveness. Taller is better. But, it's not like someone that isn't tall has no chance. The world is not black and white. It's a gradient. 5'8" isn't too bad. 5'0", you'll have more problems. 6'2, you'll have less problems. I'm Asian. Go ask your female friends, and see how many of them are looking for an "Asian boyfriend". I bet you, very few. Asian men is rarely on their list. But I do alright anyway. If I were a good looking 6'2 Italian guy, I'd do better. But it's not like because I'm not, I have zero chance for success. Women are complicated creatures. It takes more than a single attribute to win them over. But being tall is a trait that helps. And this is not a pissing contest. This is describing the way of the world. Taller is better if the guy is tall and good looking being tall alone means nothign its one trait,at 5'8 ive had sucess with women im sure more then a tall average or ugly dude If a tall good looking guy gets more women then me should that ruin my day? AS i said its not a pissing contest,as long as your charming nice looking and know how to talk to women height isnt a huge issue unless were talking extremes like if youre shorter then the height of an average women
fishtaco Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Taller is better if the guy is tall and good looking being tall alone means nothign its one trait,at 5'8 ive had sucess with women im sure more then a tall average or ugly dude If a tall good looking guy gets more women then me should that ruin my day? Yes it does make a difference. Go read up on the scientific studies. Like I said, google it. Looking at that single attribute, taller is better than shorter. Now women still want the complete package. A short good looking charming guy with money is going to do better than a tall ugly guy with no self esteem and no money. But when you talk about one single trait individually, tall is better than short. It shouldn't ruin anyone's day. A short guy complaining he can't get anything going, is just using that as an excuse, just like if I complain because of my ethnicity I can't succeed. Because unless you're playing the game of "let's see how many women we can sleep with", you really only need to succeed once, doesn't matter if you've failed 10 or 100 times previously. But being tall gives you that check mark. Know that it gives you an advantage, use it. As with any other attribute. If you're short, well, develop an edge in something else to compensate. Be extra charming. Be extra rich. Whatever.
Enchanted Girl Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 @OP: Your friend sounds like a bitch, I'm sorry. Saying that she's hotter than you while insulting all guys (by calling them shallow) at the same time? OMG, what a bitch. She sounds like one of those women who try to look really hot so they can tease men and call them creeps and drive all their girl friends away by being bitchy and insulting them while claiming at the same time that girl's aren't friends with her because they are just jealous. My best friend is SUPER HOT. She's thin with a beautiful face. She's young and flirty. Men just love her, but she's never once in her life said anything to me like,"I get more guys than you because I'm thinner/prettier than you" or whatever. We just talk about guys in general. She doesn't brag or try to put me down in the process. If a guy ever chose her over me, I'd know that it was not because she stole them away from me, but because that was where their preferences just happened to lie. And there's nothing wrong with you. Plenty of guys can like you how you are and they are indeed less likely to be shallow. I'm going to be honest . . . . I am overweight. I dress really nicely, wear make-up, do my hair, I'm extremely curvy (my stomach is much smaller than my breasts and hips), but the fact is that I'm still overweight and a lot of people on this site would claim that overweight girls can get nothing. I don't get hit on by all guys, but I do get hit on. They usually tell me that I have pretty eyes and a pretty smile and that they enjoy how curvy I am. It's just a preference they have and all guys have different preferences. There's a lot of guys out there who would never date someone of my body type. I'm pretty much the opposite of you, much moreso than your friend, and I know a lot of guys who would prefer dating a girl that looked like you than one that looked like me. Your friend looking the way she is, like it has already been said, is going to get more sexually aggressive/shallow men liking her. Men who just want her body and nothing else anyway. Because she looks fake and because girls that are in porn often look fake, they associate the fake look with casual sex. Guys that date me are attracted to me, but they usually are ones that are looking for a relationship and not ones that are looking for a one night stand. It's actually nice not to be used that way. Not that I am against losing some weight. XD Definitely not. But yeah, your friend is full of ****. And you can tell this by looking at the plethora of threads on here about how men enjoy variety. In fact, some men with super model like girlfriends will cheat on them with someone who's much uglier or fatter because they get bored and want variety. Not saying that all guys are that way. Some are great and very loyal, but I think that men are more likely to find a variety of body types interesting rather than vice versa. I'm Asian. Go ask your female friends, and see how many of them are looking for an "Asian boyfriend". I bet you, very few. Asian men is rarely on their list. I've heard other Asian men say this same thing. I think Asian men are very attractive, but I always assume that they don't want a girl like me. Like I said, I am curvy, but chubby, and I'm white. And I only see asian men with flat chested, waif thin, asian women. If an asian man asked me out and I was single, I would most likely say yes, but I'd also be shocked that they were attracted to me. I don't mean to stereotype people like this, but the men that usually like me are black, hispanic, (because they don't mind a few extra pounds and enjoy curvy), or white men who are nerdy/geeky. Those are the only types of men who have ever tried to date me (with one exception) and on dating sites like eharmony, asian men were always the quickest to close the connection with me regardless of their body type. So are you sure that its girls that aren't attracted to you and not just the fact that you are picky? Because asian men seem more picky to me than any other type of guy, but maybe I have an inaccurate view of things.
thatdog Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Your friend has big fake boobs, wear heaps of makup, heels, etc. all this screams 'slut' to guy in a bar/club. When will women learn that guys pay attention to what they wear and use their fashion to assess their personality type. casual = friendly and outgoing, tight clothes/heels/revealing cleavage = slut. you can rant and rave about how superficial or unfair that is but it's a fact of life. If you dress to show off your body expect us to notice and don't expect us to think of anything other than sex. And yes, guy will at least subconsciously think girls dressed like that are 'easy' and therefore think they will have a better chance of success hitting on them.
fishtaco Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 I've heard other Asian men say this same thing. I think Asian men are very attractive, but I always assume that they don't want a girl like me. Like I said, I am curvy, but chubby, and I'm white. And I only see asian men with flat chested, waif thin, asian women. If an asian man asked me out and I was single, I would most likely say yes, but I'd also be shocked that they were attracted to me. I don't mean to stereotype people like this, but the men that usually like me are black, hispanic, (because they don't mind a few extra pounds and enjoy curvy), or white men who are nerdy/geeky. Those are the only types of men who have ever tried to date me (with one exception) and on dating sites like eharmony, asian men were always the quickest to close the connection with me regardless of their body type. So are you sure that its girls that aren't attracted to you and not just the fact that you are picky? Because asian men seem more picky to me than any other type of guy, but maybe I have an inaccurate view of things. Actually I date non Asian women exclusively. Not counting Filipinas (not sure if they count as Asian or Pacific Islander), I've dated only a half Chinese, and that's it. In fact I date mostly Latinas, and Latinas prefer either other Latinos or Caucasians. Asian is at the bottom of their list when it comes to ethnicity. Most of the relationships I've been in, I'm the first Asian man they've ever been with. Because they just never thought to date an Asian guy. My point was that despite that fact, I do fine anyway. Because I can compensate it with other ways. And that I shouldn't use that as an excuse, despite the fact that it is a very real phenomenon. Neither should short guys. Develop dating skills, because dating is just like anything else. The more you do it, the better you'll get at it.
Sarabina Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 I am 5ft, so any guy that is 5ft and above is good for me. Personally I like guys that are shorter, I wouldn't want a 6ft tall guy. So to all the short males on LS, don't lose hope there are many women that like short men.
fortyninethousand322 Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Google it. Plenty of studies have been done about physical attractiveness. Taller is better. But, it's not like someone that isn't tall has no chance. The world is not black and white. It's a gradient. 5'8" isn't too bad. 5'0", you'll have more problems. 6'2, you'll have less problems. I'm Asian. Go ask your female friends, and see how many of them are looking for an "Asian boyfriend". I bet you, very few. Asian men is rarely on their list. But I do alright anyway. If I were a good looking 6'2 Italian guy, I'd do better. But it's not like because I'm not, I have zero chance for success. Women are complicated creatures. It takes more than a single attribute to win them over. But being tall is a trait that helps. And this is not a pissing contest. This is describing the way of the world. Every time I read one of these posts about women preferring tall guys it always makes me wonder what in the world I'm doing wrong. I wouldn't consider myself extremely tall (I'm 6 ft) but tall enough for some posters to consider me "legally" tall. The idea that someone my height or taller should have women crawling all over them is just the complete opposite of reality in my case. So I figure short guys have got to have at least a 50-50 shot.
Content Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Yes it does make a difference. Go read up on the scientific studies. Like I said, google it. Looking at that single attribute, taller is better than shorter. Now women still want the complete package. A short good looking charming guy with money is going to do better than a tall ugly guy with no self esteem and no money. But when you talk about one single trait individually, tall is better than short. It shouldn't ruin anyone's day. A short guy complaining he can't get anything going, is just using that as an excuse, just like if I complain because of my ethnicity I can't succeed. Because unless you're playing the game of "let's see how many women we can sleep with", you really only need to succeed once, doesn't matter if you've failed 10 or 100 times previously. But being tall gives you that check mark. Know that it gives you an advantage, use it. As with any other attribute. If you're short, well, develop an edge in something else to compensate. Be extra charming. Be extra rich. Whatever. You could find a random study to back almost anything up if you really want to Of course being tall is a positive trait My point is its a plus and a bonus to women IF you also have other traits they like Just being tall and mediocre everywehre else is not gonna give u an advantage A Tall ugly or average loking guy is not a hot commodity just because of his height
Content Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Every time I read one of these posts about women preferring tall guys it always makes me wonder what in the world I'm doing wrong. I wouldn't consider myself extremely tall (I'm 6 ft) but tall enough for some posters to consider me "legally" tall. The idea that someone my height or taller should have women crawling all over them is just the complete opposite of reality in my case. So I figure short guys have got to have at least a 50-50 shot. Being tall means nothing if you dont have much else going for you or are shy to approach women its an easy excuse for short guys to feel sorry for themslves and act like heyre perfect in every other area yet height is the only thing holding them back when the truth is they probably overrate themslves in other areas aside from height Height is a factor but nowhere near the end all be all some make it out to be
fishtaco Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Every time I read one of these posts about women preferring tall guys it always makes me wonder what in the world I'm doing wrong. I wouldn't consider myself extremely tall (I'm 6 ft) but tall enough for some posters to consider me "legally" tall. The idea that someone my height or taller should have women crawling all over them is just the complete opposite of reality in my case. So I figure short guys have got to have at least a 50-50 shot. 6' is a great height. "Legally" tall, and not too tall. It gives you an advantage over shorter guys, but you still have to know how to use it. My buddy's roommate. Tall skinny white guy. My female friend's favorite type of guys. She was very much interested in sleeping with him. But, every time we hung out together, he was being super nerdy and would retreat to his room to play War of Warcraft. She's even the aggressive type and willing to do more than 50% of the work of approaching, and made it known to me and my buddy (his roomate) that she's interested. We were trying to create chances for them to hook up. But he made himself unavailable, so nothing happened. Being tall give you an advantage. But you still have to know how to use it to your advantage.
fishtaco Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 (edited) You could find a random study to back almost anything up if you really want to Ok, I find a link that's a study that says being tall is more attractive than short, for men. You find a link that's a study that says being short is more attractive than being tall, for men. Ready, set go! One: http://www.limelife.com/blog-entry/Tall-Men-Have-More-Attractive-Partners-says-Study/22881.html Two: http://www.sixwise.com/newsletters/05/08/03/how-much-of-an-advantage-do-tall-men-have-are-tall-men-really-better-off.htm This one even talks about discrimination due to height outside of dating. They even make more money. As a bonus: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/Careers/02/02/cb.tall.people/index.html From the article: "To add insult to injury, height has not only been linked to larger paychecks and greater self-confidence, but also to higher intelligence." I agree with you 100% that height isn't everything. But it makes more of an impact than you think. Edited May 6, 2011 by fishtaco typo
Content Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Ok, I find a link that's a study that says being tall is more attractive than short, for men. You find a link that's a study that says being short is more attractive than being tall, for men. Ready, set go! One: http://www.limelife.com/blog-entry/Tall-Men-Have-More-Attractive-Partners-says-Study/22881.html Two: http://www.sixwise.com/newsletters/05/08/03/how-much-of-an-advantage-do-tall-men-have-are-tall-men-really-better-off.htm This one even talks about discrimination due to height outside of dating. They even make more money. As a bonus: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/Careers/02/02/cb.tall.people/index.html From the article: "To add insult to injury, height has not only been linked to larger paychecks and greater self-confidence, but also to higher intelligence." I agree with you 100% that height isn't everything. But it makes more of an impact than you think. As i said studies arent the end all be all Im 5'8 and have had zero problem with women A Man still has to approach and be the hunter no matter what he looks like women dont usually approach, you make it seem like women worship tall men Not trying to be offensive but being asian is probably more of a hinderance
fishtaco Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 As i said studies arent the end all be all Im 5'8 and have had zero problem with women A Man still has to approach and be the hunter no matter what he looks like women dont usually approach, you make it seem like women worship tall men Not trying to be offensive but being asian is probably more of a hinderance It is, and just like you, I'm doing just fine. We have learned to compensate for not winning the genetic lottery, or born on the wrong continent. But just because we've learned to overcome these obstacles, doesn't mean they are not there. Like I said, I agree with you 100%, but I disagree with you in the sense that I'd like to give credit where credit is due. Being short, being Asian, ARE hindrances. Overcome-able hindrances. But just because we managed, doesn't mean they're not there.
Content Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 It is, and just like you, I'm doing just fine. We have learned to compensate for not winning the genetic lottery, or born on the wrong continent. But just because we've learned to overcome these obstacles, doesn't mean they are not there. Like I said, I agree with you 100%, but I disagree with you in the sense that I'd like to give credit where credit is due. Being short, being Asian, ARE hindrances. Overcome-able hindrances. But just because we managed, doesn't mean they're not there. I guess.. I look at it half glass full.. As a short but not extremely short guy whos been told hes good looking i feel all thigns being equal if were playing pissing contests tall good lookign guys are above me but not tall average or tall ugly guys or short average or ugly guys.. So im 2nd most in demand
Disillusioned Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 I attempted to maintain this was not true and have faith that guys are not just interested in one 'type' of woman :-) But what do others think? Is it easier to attract a guys attention if you fit a particular stereotype? Do guy's have a similar problem? Let the debate continue... Nothing about a woman will turn me off faster than if she acts hyper and ditzy no matter how pretty she looks. I'm attracted to women who are more demure and thoughtful, even if they wear glasses or have a few extra pounds (but not obese). My 2c.
Darren Taylor Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 As i said studies arent the end all be all Im 5'8 and have had zero problem with women A Man still has to approach and be the hunter no matter what he looks like women dont usually approach, you make it seem like women worship tall men Not trying to be offensive but being asian is probably more of a hinderance A good looking guy will be approached. Obviously not as often as the average woman, but they do get approached. I've been approached and hit on over the last 2 years or so. As for Asians, I'm not Asian so I can't say for sure if it's a hinderance.
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