Ay Diesel T Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 So if I reach out to a woman, and she doesn't care to reply or acknowledge that I reached out, I move on to others. Basically she gets once chance to **** up in the early stages of the game, if she does, she's then "rotated" to the bottom of the barrel and only given attention when she finally makes herself visible/existent ie. making contact with me. Women aren't the only ones with options. Rotate, rotate, rotate.
Knittress Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) Do you ever consider that maybe people pick up on your latent hostility?? It's good that you don't consider yourself some lowly supplicant, sure. But what's with automatically labeling a woman a bitch 'cause she doesn't get back to you on your timeline? Or exploding all over the place in a ragefest if people question your approach? That's not normal, guy. Maybe you'll get better results if you keep doing what you're doing, but CHILL OUT about it? Maybe? Edited February 27, 2011 by Knittress
Untouchable_Fire Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 So if I reach out to a woman, and she doesn't care to reply or acknowledge that I reached out, I move on to others. Basically she gets once chance to **** up in the early stages of the game, if she does, she's then "rotated" to the bottom of the barrel and only given attention when she finally makes herself visible/existent ie. making contact with me. Women aren't the only ones with options. Rotate, rotate, rotate. It's called filling your pipeline. Imagine dating like a pyramid where the more you have at the base the more one will likely rise to the top. If you are just trying to get laid... who cares... skanky girls seem to be the wide majority in some areas. However if you are trying to find someone really high quality... you need to have a deep pipeline and keep filling it. Brush up on your juggling skills. Do you ever consider that maybe people pick up on your latent hostility?? It's good that you don't consider yourself some lowly supplicant, sure. But what's with automatically labeling a woman a bitch 'cause she doesn't get back to you on your timeline? Or exploding all over the place in a ragefest if people question your approach? That's not normal, guy. Maybe you'll get better results if you keep doing what you're doing, but CHILL OUT about it? Maybe? Seriously... I've seen more women respond positively to that then negatively. It's just the way the world works. I think most women don't care if the guy seems nice or angry... they just care about how confident he is. So, whatever makes him feel cocksure is a good strategy. If that requires him to characterize women who don't respond to his advances as bitches to keep his confidence high... well... I can't argue with that. I would be nice if he used something else... but that might not work as well for him.
Author Ay Diesel T Posted February 27, 2011 Author Posted February 27, 2011 Dunno what Knittress is on about, but I'm 100% sure I'm glad she's on ignore. And why does she keep continuing to post, directing her posts at me, when she knows she's on ignore? Gee whiz.
xpaperxcutx Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 It's called filling your pipeline. Imagine dating like a pyramid where the more you have at the base the more one will likely rise to the top. If you are just trying to get laid... who cares... skanky girls seem to be the wide majority in some areas. However if you are trying to find someone really high quality... you need to have a deep pipeline and keep filling it. Brush up on your juggling skills. Seriously... I've seen more women respond positively to that then negatively. It's just the way the world works. I think most women don't care if the guy seems nice or angry... they just care about how confident he is. So, whatever makes him feel cocksure is a good strategy. If that requires him to characterize women who don't respond to his advances as bitches to keep his confidence high... well... I can't argue with that. I would be nice if he used something else... but that might not work as well for him. I think you're mistaking cockiness for charisma and confidence. They're different things. Ice cream is ice cream until you realize you're eating the wrong flavor.
Kamille Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 Of course men have options. They've always had options. Well, at least since arranged marriages stopped being the norm (Pretty much beginning of the 20th century for upper class Americans). How you chose to negotiate those options is up to you. Strangely, apart from your antagonistic tone, I see no difference between what you're saying here and what I posted yesterday. The best way to stay zen about dating is to get to know someone before you start getting too emotionally involved.
january2011 Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 I think you're mistaking cockiness for charisma and confidence. They're different things. Ice cream is ice cream until you realize you're eating the wrong flavor. Love it! I agree with you regarding cockiness, charisma and confidence.
Distant78 Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 We been had options. Just that most are too scared to use them because they put their women on a pedestal.
somedude81 Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 So if I reach out to a woman, and she doesn't care to reply or acknowledge that I reached out, I move on to others. Basically she gets once chance to **** up in the early stages of the game, if she does, she's then "rotated" to the bottom of the barrel and only given attention when she finally makes herself visible/existent ie. making contact with me. Women aren't the only ones with options. Rotate, rotate, rotate. Uh, not all men have a barrel full of women they can rotate. What you're describing is the ideal situation to be in. But for some guys, they go long periods of time with no women on the horizon. Then "poof" a woman appears. How are you supposed to rotate when you have no idea how long it will be till you find another girl that actually seems to give a damn about you?
Disillusioned Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 Basically she gets once chance to **** up in the early stages of the game, if she does, she's then "rotated" to the bottom of the barrel There's no bottom in my barrel. If a woman messes up with me, she's history. De-friended. GR'ed. Yes, men do have options... I'm one man who's not rich but owes nothing to anyone, I have the option of being on dating-strike for as long as I want, even if I live to be 180. I'd appreciate some female companionship as emotional support and an activity partner, but I really do believe the woman's not born yet who can make me happier than I can make myself. The women I've dated should be glad I'm such a nice guy, else I would have tweeted to the world about how they treated me.
Lilmisus Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 This reminds me of one vivid memory back in like, fourth grade that has kept me from dating most guys who've asked me out. This dude was just looking to be cool, and when all of us were in a line, he just started at the beginning and asked out the first girl saying "Hi Ashley, you wanna go out with me?" When she said no..he went to the next girl. Then the next..then the next. Until each of us said no (we were fourth graders for crying out loud) and he just started back at the beginning until he realized that no one wanted to go out with him. Every time a guy makes me feel like I'm just standing in his line of girls, I say no. After all, what difference will my no makes when there's another girl standing behind me who you're considering asking out next anyway. Make me feel special and let me know you actually want to go out with ME and not and just go out, then I'll think about it. And I agree, there's a huge difference between cockiness and confidence/charisma.
Kamille Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 How are you supposed to rotate when you have no idea how long it will be till you find another girl that actually seems to give a damn about you? Poof makes it sound pretty magical doesn't it? So if you don't know when *poof* another woman might appear, why would you waste mental energy on a woman who is giving you mixed signals or reasons to take pause? Maybe while you hang on to one woman because she showed interest at one point but is now acting iffy, you're missing out on a potential *poof*. The way to not get sucked in is to pay attention to what these women are doing/saying and not hang on to them because you fear loss. There. That was my point yesterday.
Author Ay Diesel T Posted February 27, 2011 Author Posted February 27, 2011 Uh, not all men have a barrel full of women they can rotate. What you're describing is the ideal situation to be in. But for some guys, they go long periods of time with no women on the horizon. Then "poof" a woman appears. How are you supposed to rotate when you have no idea how long it will be till you find another girl that actually seems to give a damn about you? Next her anyways, why keep a woman around if she's just disappointing? There will always be women around, even if you have an inevitable 3 month drought headed your way, there will always be another day for you to meet another woman. This will help those men whom you mentioned have no prospects, in the way of them not putting so much importance and focus on a woman. It'll also help (yes it's beneficial to even the less than fortunate men) by weeding out the women who are either: a. Stuck up b. String alongers c. Flakes Women can be rotated, and nexted for any reason. Example. Girl calls me at 5 in the morning. I'm still up, but I'm doing my thing, so it goes to voicemail. Earlier in the day she blew me off, so I text her saying "It's 5 in the morning. What do you want?" She told me she was crying and needed someone to talk to. What's the best move for me? Rotate. I didn't even reply to her explanation, I just rotated her because I already know what game she's playing at, and it's not my steez.
Author Ay Diesel T Posted February 27, 2011 Author Posted February 27, 2011 There's no bottom in my barrel. If a woman messes up with me, she's history. De-friended. GR'ed. Yes, men do have options... I'm one man who's not rich but owes nothing to anyone, I have the option of being on dating-strike for as long as I want, even if I live to be 180. I'd appreciate some female companionship as emotional support and an activity partner, but I really do believe the woman's not born yet who can make me happier than I can make myself. The women I've dated should be glad I'm such a nice guy, else I would have tweeted to the world about how they treated me. This is also a good way to handle it. I use the bottom of the barrel effect to give them a benefit of the doubt, and allow to redeem themselves, but it also places them at such low priority, that if she doesn't manage to do so, she remains unseen, and eventually just fades out. She either makes moves, or gets ghost. Thus, the bottom of the barrel. Most of the time, I don't even reach the bottom of the barrel. They just stay there, and eventually, ignored.
xpaperxcutx Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 Next her anyways, why keep a woman around if she's just disappointing? There will always be women around, even if you have an inevitable 3 month drought headed your way, there will always be another day for you to meet another woman. This will help those men whom you mentioned have no prospects, in the way of them not putting so much importance and focus on a woman. It'll also help (yes it's beneficial to even the less than fortunate men) by weeding out the women who are either: a. Stuck up b. String alongers c. Flakes Women can be rotated, and nexted for any reason. Example. Girl calls me at 5 in the morning. I'm still up, but I'm doing my thing, so it goes to voicemail. Earlier in the day she blew me off, so I text her saying "It's 5 in the morning. What do you want?" She told me she was crying and needed someone to talk to. What's the best move for me? Rotate. I didn't even reply to her explanation, I just rotated her because I already know what game she's playing at, and it's not my steez. Diesel, I understand your need to helping your fellow men from being doormats and emotional tampons, but your choice of vocabulary can be incredibly distasteful. Barrel, rotation? Doesn't sound any different than comparing girls to " all you can eat buffets" and cars that require " test-driving".
SmileFace Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) Ugh , what is the point ? Everyone has options, man and woman alike. It isn't the option to next someone - it is the option not allow someone to treat you like crap. This is what people are talking abut when they talk about confidence. Not the confidence to move on to the next one but the confidence to know this one isn't the one for you. Your message is fine but your deliver is so wrong . Edited February 27, 2011 by SmileFace A little too bitchy
Author Ay Diesel T Posted February 27, 2011 Author Posted February 27, 2011 Ugh , what is the point ? Everyone has options, man and woman alike. It isn't the option to next someone - it is the option not allow someone to treat you like crap. This is what people are talking abut when they talk about confidence. Not the confidence to move on to the next one but the confidence to know this one isn't the one for you. Your message is fine but your deliver is so wrong . Yeah? (10 characters)
Knittress Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 Dunno what Knittress is on about, but I'm 100% sure I'm glad she's on ignore. And why does she keep continuing to post, directing her posts at me, when she knows she's on ignore? Gee whiz. Dude, what is your deal? Are you like, 14? You're just mad that I haven't posted pics of my seriously sexy self in my avatar, aren't you?
Author Ay Diesel T Posted February 27, 2011 Author Posted February 27, 2011 Yep!................. Care to elaborate Ms. SmileFace?
january2011 Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 Dude, what is your deal? Are you like, 14? You're just mad that I haven't posted pics of my seriously sexy self in my avatar, aren't you? If there was more seriously sexy self avatar-posting on LS, the men would have more options. Too bad that the gorgeousness of the female members of LS shall remain hidden and the men on LS will have to contend themselves with their mundane real-life options. *sigh*
Kamille Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 Ugh , what is the point ? Everyone has options, man and woman alike. It isn't the option to next someone - it is the option not allow someone to treat you like crap. This is what people are talking abut when they talk about confidence. Not the confidence to move on to the next one but the confidence to know this one isn't the one for you. Your message is fine but your deliver is so wrong . Brilliant advice! Both men and women could really benefit from understanding the difference. The option to next someone just to protect one's ego stems from deep-rooted insecurity. Having faith that one will know when someone isn't the one for us stems from a deep sense of confidence.
Author Ay Diesel T Posted February 27, 2011 Author Posted February 27, 2011 Brilliant advice! Both men and women could really benefit from understanding the difference. The option to next someone just to protect one's ego stems from deep-rooted insecurity. Having faith that one will know when someone isn't the one for us stems from a deep sense of confidence. Lots of truth in that. Generally when I next a woman, it's because I can already tell we aren't compatible. Ego isn't in the picture when a woman is rotated or nexted, more of a conserving valuable time and energy type of deal.
SmileFace Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 Care to elaborate Ms. SmileFace? The option to next someone just to protect one's ego stems from deep-rooted insecurity. Having faith that one will know when someone isn't the one for us stems from a deep sense of confidence. This - she elaborated for me ... thanks. <inbox> ....K!
Mme. Chaucer Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 I, too, am shunned by the OP, but I would like to comment anyway: What could a man with such a hostile attitude towards women possibly have to offer one who spent any time with him? His theory is normal: if a person blows you off, treats you rudely, etc., why waste your time with them? I am sure that we all agree with this, and we hope to have healthy enough self esteem to require respectful treatment from those we do spend our time with. What's to argue? But the choice of language, and the posturing ... really unattractive and reeking of toxic anger. I imagine that whatever this guy looks like, most reasonably coherent women can pick up on his attitude from afar. After all, there are plenty of good looking guys out there who would be a pleasure to fraternize with on many levels! That's probably why ADT is here so frequently bragging about his handsome looks and barrel o' women instead of being out and about frolicking with any of them.
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