Misogynist if a man doesn't want to put the woman on a pedestal and do all the work?

[LeaningIntoTheMuse]

You know what? You are misogynistic.

 

Blaming all women and throwing crap at them for what a few random individuals on an obscure relationship message forum say is misogynistic. Same as if a female came here, and started pulling up threads that painted all men as dogs.

 

If you want entertainment, go plug in your TV or play an action video game. Some of us here actually want to progress to dating, or if we're already dating, we want to learn how to keep dating...or when to let go.

 

But, of course, that is all beyond your logical grasp, because you are a troll and are polluting the forums with your mindless, senseless garbage. Yes, I've only been here a month, but I know what you are. You haven't fooled me, and judging by the reactions of everyone else, you haven't fooled anybody else here, either.

[collegeguy_24]

You know what? You are misogynistic.

 

Blaming all women and throwing crap at them for what a few random individuals on an obscure relationship message forum say is misogynistic. Same as if a female came here, and started pulling up threads that painted all men as dogs.

 

If you want entertainment, go plug in your TV or play an action video game. Some of us here actually want to progress to dating, or if we're already dating, we want to learn how to keep dating...or when to let go.

 

But, of course, that is all beyond your logical grasp, because you are a troll and are polluting the forums with your mindless, senseless garbage. Yes, I've only been here a month, but I know what you are. You haven't fooled me, and judging by the reactions of everyone else, you haven't fooled anybody else here, either.

 

Dude, if I could buy you a beer, I would, that was win!

[Pyro]

Basing your views on what you read on here instead of having your own experiences in the real world? Good luck with that. You will die a virgin if you keep that up.

[waynebrady]

You know what? You are misogynistic.

 

Blaming all women and throwing crap at them for what a few random individuals on an obscure relationship message forum say is misogynistic. Same as if a female came here, and started pulling up threads that painted all men as dogs.

 

If you want entertainment, go plug in your TV or play an action video game. Some of us here actually want to progress to dating, or if we're already dating, we want to learn how to keep dating...or when to let go.

 

But, of course, that is all beyond your logical grasp, because you are a troll and are polluting the forums with your mindless, senseless garbage. Yes, I've only been here a month, but I know what you are. You haven't fooled me, and judging by the reactions of everyone else, you haven't fooled anybody else here, either.

 

Don't like it, Ignore it. Nobodys forcing you to read my posts.

[collegeguy_24]

Untouchable_fire suggested this, so I'll give it a shot and challenge you to answer these questions.

 

 

What holds you back from asking women out on dates?

 

Where exactly did you form your current opinions about women?

 

Have you even tried to get a date, ever?

 

 

Put some thought before you answer. I'll be back on later tonight to see if you respond. Right now, I am going to see my GF, take her to lunch, watch a movie, and relax.

[aerogurl87]

I'm not gonna lie, I LOVE being put on a pedestal by my boyfriend. He sees my faults and still thinks I'm the greatest woman alive. But then again our relationship is conducive to such behaviour, much more so than the average relationship.

[Ay Diesel T]

**** what anybody thinks. A woman is going to have to EARN my special treatment and attention. ****, she isn't the only person with options.

 

That's another thing to, I'm not going to go out of my way if I'm just an option lol. I'm going to give you the bare minimum, **** competing for love and affection.

 

Basically what a bitch brings to the table, is what she gets. Oh you're a whore? Cool, I can be a player. Oh, you've got 3 other men you're seeing? Cool, you'll just be treated as an option. Oh you expect this and that? Ok cool, where's my sex after this date tonight?

 

Fight fire with fire, then thoroughly stomp that **** out, cause I don't play that ****.

 

The reason why women are like this is cause there's too many punk ass men out there, letting them slide with all this dumb ****. If guys would man the **** up, and let their balls hang, they'd stop treating women who don't deserve it, like she's the only woman on the planet.

 

A week or so ago women on this board were accusing me of treating some random broad as disposable...lol...your got damn right. Just like a pretty bird does men, I'm gonna make a bitch prove herself to me. Except the only difference is, it doesn't take much to earn some good dick for the night lol...

 

 

**** it, I'm a womanizer.

[Untouchable_Fire]

Don't like it, Ignore it. Nobodys forcing you to read my posts.

 

What is your family situation like?

[Brenfy]

People don't get annoyed with your posts because we think women should be put on pedestals. It's because YOU THINK that we believe women should be put on pedestals.

 

You cannot prove a hypothesis about an entire gender based on a few examples you found on a relationship website.

 

Until you get out from behind the computer & actually interact with women, you will never have a clue what you are talking about.

 

Although if you go into life with your attitude you'll never let yourself be proven wrong.

[mo mo]

I personally think he's just a troll trying to rile us all up.

 

I think it's one of 2 things

 

1) as you said, he's probably a troll

 

2) he is trying to prepare for future encounters with women by studying information and experiences given on this site and others. He wants to minimize the risks he takes.

 

Both situations are sad, because if he's a troll it means he has no life, and if it's the 2nd thing, well, he's just not going to have much fun dating because he will never have those pure innocent feelings.

 

Either way I feel sorry for him.

[Content]

I think getting an overall view of women (or men for that matter) based on this forum is a mistake.

 

People who are happy and in solid relationships don't tend to post on sites like this. I'm not saying that everyone here is messed up. But many people here do have issues. And in the heat of debate or the pain of a failed relationship, many people say extreme things they don't really mean.

 

The only way to judge accurately is to get out there and live life and experience relationships for yourself. Give people a chance and don't prejudge based on what someone said here. This is a great place for support and opinions. But you have to take them with a grain of salt. It's a very small cross section and not anywhere near indicative of the majority.

 

Agreed alot of people here have issues and are single and constantly in and out of relationships for a reason.

 

If i judged women by this site i may have negative views but indeal with allot of women in my life and realize there not all like that

[wheream_i]

YOUR attitude is that the man must put in all the effort, the man must do all the giving without getting anything back, the man must worship the woman and put her on a pedestal.

 

See, that's why you find a woman who is a very giving person that where all you do is take, take, take and never give back. Sit back and let her do all the work. When she gets sick and tired of your lame ass, she will dump you and find that wuss of a man without a spine that she can now run all over.

 

Isn't that the way it goes?

[samspade]

I've seen it many times. If a man(like myself) says he doesn't want to do all the work and put in all the effort then he gets accused of either being a troll or a misogynist.

 

Too me it seems that women basicly want their man to put them on a pedestal and more or less worship them, and any man who doesn't want to do that hates women. Have I understod it right here or have I gotten it all wrong?

 

Because I read threads were women get so over-sensetive and imiedietly accuses me of hating women if I question why the man always have to do all the work.

 

I question why things are a one way street and then boom... misogynist, troll, women hater, i should be banned, i have no right to even question that, im bitter, will never get a girlfriend, im a horrible man, etc etc

 

First of all, you're using a straw man so you have something to tear apart.

 

Don't lose any sleep about what bitter, angry women post on this site.

 

If you don't want to put women on a pedestal - then don't. It's certainly the smart way to go if you want to have success in relationships, and it's not misogynist.

 

Put your theories into practice and enjoy the life you want. Coming here and arguing with people - especially people who will never change their minds - is a fool's errand.

 

Don't forget that females ALWAYS speak with authority on the subject of relationships. You will have a hard time changing any woman's mind. They are completely inelastic in their opinions. As long as you remember that what women say and what they do are two completely different things, you don't need to win any debates. Just go out there, be the man you want to be, seduce the women you want, and let the haters hate. Complaining about it here just brings you down to their level.

[musemaj11]

Men are the givers and the creators. Women are the receivers and the consumers. Except a few exceptions, I believe most women don't deserve equal rights.

[zengirl]

I've seen it many times. If a man(like myself) says he doesn't want to do all the work and put in all the effort then he gets accused of either being a troll or a misogynist.

 

You start with flawed premises, like assuming men put in all/most of the work in a relationship. No one would call you a troll if you went out with a girl, did a bunch of work, she did nothing and was dead weight, and you complained about it. But when you stereotype entire genders, particularly so broadly, particularly with so little evidence, particularly in ridiculous ways like you sometimes do, that's a bit more trollish.

 

Or, you know, what LeaningIntotheMuse said was awesome and dead-on.

[Lovelybird]

That young. I couldn't imagine a teen being so jaded as he is. Usually only a very bad experience will do that.

I think he is too comic to be a teenage.

[Mme. Chaucer]

Men are the givers and the creators. Women are the receivers and the consumers. Except a few exceptions, I believe most women don't deserve equal rights.

 

Why don't you go get a milkshake with WayneBrady and Ay Diesel?

[musemaj11]

Why don't you go get a milkshake with WayneBrady and Ay Diesel?

Why dont you go join a Cheapskate Anonymous group?