Untouchable_Fire Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 I didn't equate him to garbage, but I feel like a lot of what he writes is precisely that. "Women hate sex" posts in a thread where someone is asking for advice on how to please their partner are, IMO, garbage posts, no matter who writes them. I actually think he's either a very damaged person or someone who's having a really good laugh at all the reactions his comments get. Most of his posts are totally ludicrous and over-the-top, which is why I don't respond. If he's being serious, my getting irritated/upset at him isn't going to help, and if he's having fun, then my responding will only make him post more. I went back and read it. I see you didn't call HIM garbage, just what he says. Sorry I mixed that up by trying to read too fast. Honestly I hope he is getting a good laugh. Sometimes he cracks me up. Not as much as the guy who believes sex is something women use to dominate him. His posts on olympically training your body for masturbation, literally made me laugh to tears. If these are really hurting individuals... they need a much better response than we give them. I stopped posting in OG and SP/NS's threads because it was getting ridiculous. They only responded positively to posts that they agreed with, and they both seemed to focus and obsess over the negative posts, so trying to help them became completely useless. Do you remember the thread about intentionally making the guy feel like he sucked in bed? Almost everyone who responded took issue with that behavior. I personally was completely disgusted by it, and, yes, at the end of the day, the behavior does a lot more damage to people than stupid "women hate sex, women are parasites" comments. I still think if people posted about actual concrete problems instead of "men are gross pigs" or "women are parasites" or "men only like girls with big boobs!" or "chicks only dig tall guys," they'd get better responses. You pretty much just described those threads spot on. I HATE posting my actual problems. I will talk about something I encountered that bugs me... but seriously I'm not going to open up to anyone on this forum. If I did, it would be in another section, not dating. So, I can see why the posts are made the way they are.
Pyro Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) Have you actually taken the time to ask him what holds him back? Find out why he is so scared to ask a girl out? A few of us have tried to talk to him and have shared our experiences to show him that he is wrong when he says women never initiate. He gives the exact same response back that they are an exception and then goes back to spewing his BS. He never listens to reason. He has yet to prove that he wants help. All he has proven is that he has no business giving dating advice or any advice about women. He has also proven that so far his sole intention on here is to anger people. Every time they put up a thread it gets 200+ posts of women trying to provide them guidance. The tone ranges from full on sympathy to mild frustration... but thats it. you must not pay attention much. If you did you would notice that a good chunk of her threads were deleted or closed up by Tony. You also fail to notice that she hasn't posted lately. Both OG and SP have been banned. Edited February 17, 2011 by Pyro
Untouchable_Fire Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 A few of us have tried to talk to him and have shared our experiences to show him that he is wrong when he says women never initiate. He gives the exact same response back that they are an exception and then goes back to spewing his BS. He never listens to reason. He has yet to prove that he wants help. All he has proven is that he has no business giving dating advice or any advice about women. He has also proven that so far his sole intention on here is to anger people. you must not pay attention much. If you did you would notice that a good chunk of her threads were deleted or closed up by Tony. You also fail to notice that she hasn't posted lately. Both OG and SP have been banned. Pyro... I've actually seen you try once or twice with him. I just felt that instead of proving him wrong... which just fuels his fire, instead try figuring out what keeps him locked up. Clearly his big issue is that he wants women to put romantic effort into him. We both know that naturally happens if your a good looking guy... so I assume he has some kind of impediment. Maybe it's because Im older and I just see him as an inexperienced kid. Sometimes your family situation makes you crazy at that age. I actually had no idea they were banned. I only drop by LS a few times a week. I don't have that much time to follow threads or developments like that. I'm happy to hear it though... I don't think this site helped them.
collegeguy_24 Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 Untouchable_fire, I did what you said and I just challenged him in his thread. I am logging off now to go see my GF for a fun afternoon. I'll be back on later tonight to see what he says. Perhaps in the mean time you can try to reason with the guy.
xpaperxcutx Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 Pyro... I've actually seen you try once or twice with him. I just felt that instead of proving him wrong... which just fuels his fire, instead try figuring out what keeps him locked up. Clearly his big issue is that he wants women to put romantic effort into him. We both know that naturally happens if your a good looking guy... so I assume he has some kind of impediment. Maybe it's because Im older and I just see him as an inexperienced kid. Sometimes your family situation makes you crazy at that age. I actually had no idea they were banned. I only drop by LS a few times a week. I don't have that much time to follow threads or developments like that. I'm happy to hear it though... I don't think this site helped them. Sorry, U_F, but are you preaching? If we're doing such a " bad job" helping the guy, as you'd put it, please do the honors of proving us wrong. Because right now, all I'm hearing is you trying to inform us what to do, and yet you're the one who's not really doing anything at all.
Pyro Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 Pyro... I've actually seen you try once or twice with him. I just felt that instead of proving him wrong... which just fuels his fire, instead try figuring out what keeps him locked up. Clearly his big issue is that he wants women to put romantic effort into him. We both know that naturally happens if your a good looking guy... so I assume he has some kind of impediment. Maybe it's because Im older and I just see him as an inexperienced kid. Sometimes your family situation makes you crazy at that age. I actually had no idea they were banned. I only drop by LS a few times a week. I don't have that much time to follow threads or developments like that. I'm happy to hear it though... I don't think this site helped them. he has to be willing to open up first, which I have yet to see any proof. If he can open up and keep his mind open then game on. No this site did not help them at all. If people aren't willing to listen to reason with an open mind then they are wasting their time and those who tried to help.
Ay Diesel T Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 There's a whole lot of sandy vagina on this board lol.
SmileFace Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 Someone want to give me a summary of this thread? I lost interest at the second post but want to know the rest.
Ay Diesel T Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 Someone want to give me a summary of this thread? I lost interest at the second post but want to know the rest. Send me nekkid pix d00d.
Untouchable_Fire Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 he has to be willing to open up first, which I have yet to see any proof. If he can open up and keep his mind open then game on. No this site did not help them at all. If people aren't willing to listen to reason with an open mind then they are wasting their time and those who tried to help. Dunno. I'm going to give it a shot and see how he responds. Hopefully there is some humanity in there somewhere. Side note... Daphne is just as bad as OG, and SP. Why do LS women still feed her sympathy?
Pyro Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 Dunno. I'm going to give it a shot and see how he responds. Hopefully there is some humanity in there somewhere. Side note... Daphne is just as bad as OG, and SP. Why do LS women still feed her sympathy? God speed. I haven't paid any attention to her posts yet but if what you say is true then it will be the same story as OG and SP. People were sympathetic at first and then gave up on them.
waynebrady Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 Pyro... I've actually seen you try once or twice with him. I just felt that instead of proving him wrong... which just fuels his fire, instead try figuring out what keeps him locked up. Clearly his big issue is that he wants women to put romantic effort into him. We both know that naturally happens if your a good looking guy... so I assume he has some kind of impediment. Maybe it's because Im older and I just see him as an inexperienced kid. Sometimes your family situation makes you crazy at that age. I actually had no idea they were banned. I only drop by LS a few times a week. I don't have that much time to follow threads or developments like that. I'm happy to hear it though... I don't think this site helped them. Women don't really put in romantic effort into men anyway THAT OFTEN. And yes I do realise there are exceptions... But come on, women rarely makes the first move, forget all my exagerations, it is true that women rarely puts in romantic effort first. The man is more often than not the one who makes the move, and I will too when the time is right and I find a girl I like. I would consider myself a reasonably good looking guy, not unattractive but not extremley handsome either. I'm a bit of a shorty at 5'7 so my facial looks are irrelevant anyway, they could be devilishly handsome but at the end, height does matter. I guess that might be my impediment though I suppose. You want me to "open up" and keep my mind open? Sure I can do that, I can explain why I make all these negative posts about women. And I think you would be quite surprised as to why I constantly go over the top.
SmileFace Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 Send me nekkid pix d00d. Only if you send me a pic of you in your lab coat. You will get the sandy pics you want Who is sp?
waynebrady Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 Dunno. I'm going to give it a shot and see how he responds. Hopefully there is some humanity in there somewhere. Side note... Daphne is just as bad as OG, and SP. Why do LS women still feed her sympathy? Alright, the reason I make all these outrageously negative posts about women is because I want to be proven wrong. When I see women prove me wrong I get genuinly happy. And no I don't ignore them, I read all replys to my posts, I might not reply to them... But I do see them. And I know I get women prove me wrong alot more often than I see women prove me right. Offcourse I realise not all women are the way I describe. I have toned my posts down in recent times I think, but really when I used to say stuff like "ALL women hate sex" "Women have no intrest in men at all" "Most women couldn't care less if their SO died"... It's so I could get dozens of women tell me how thats not the case. I don't know why I have this negative view on women in the first place and why I need daily reassuring that women aren't the way I "fear" they are. 1 year ago I had never given these things a thought, it was sometime then that I got the impression of how things are and they just stuck. I do think I've made progress though. In my more serious posts I have said that I now accept the fact that women can like sex and instead of saying "ALL" women or the "vast majority" I now use the word significant amount more often instead.
Untouchable_Fire Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 Women don't really put in romantic effort into men anyway THAT OFTEN. And yes I do realise there are exceptions... But come on, women rarely makes the first move, forget all my exagerations, it is true that women rarely puts in romantic effort first. The man is more often than not the one who makes the move, and I will too when the time is right and I find a girl I like. I would consider myself a reasonably good looking guy, not unattractive but not extremley handsome either. I'm a bit of a shorty at 5'7 so my facial looks are irrelevant anyway, they could be devilishly handsome but at the end, height does matter. I guess that might be my impediment though I suppose. You want me to "open up" and keep my mind open? Sure I can do that, I can explain why I make all these negative posts about women. And I think you would be quite surprised as to why I constantly go over the top. Why is it such a big deal who puts in the effort in the beginning? Seriously, I want you to move your life forward. My best friend is 5'7" and he gets dates just fine. It's true that sometimes he gets rejected just because of his height. However, he doesn't let that stop him. You can do it too! I am interested in hearing what drives you to make the negative posts about women and go over the top.
LeaningIntoTheMuse Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 Alright, the reason I make all these outrageously negative posts about women is because I want to be proven wrong. When I see women prove me wrong I get genuinly happy. And no I don't ignore them, I read all replys to my posts, I might not reply to them... But I do see them. And I know I get women prove me wrong alot more often than I see women prove me right. Offcourse I realise not all women are the way I describe. I have toned my posts down in recent times I think, but really when I used to say stuff like "ALL women hate sex" "Women have no intrest in men at all" "Most women couldn't care less if their SO died"... It's so I could get dozens of women tell me how thats not the case. I don't know why I have this negative view on women in the first place and why I need daily reassuring that women aren't the way I "fear" they are. 1 year ago I had never given these things a thought, it was sometime then that I got the impression of how things are and they just stuck. I do think I've made progress though. In my more serious posts I have said that I now accept the fact that women can like sex and instead of saying "ALL" women or the "vast majority" I now use the word significant amount more often instead. And that is the emphasis of trolling. People come here asking for advice. You come here to discourage them. You don't belong here.
Untouchable_Fire Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 Alright, the reason I make all these outrageously negative posts about women is because I want to be proven wrong. When I see women prove me wrong I get genuinly happy. And no I don't ignore them, I read all replys to my posts, I might not reply to them... But I do see them. And I know I get women prove me wrong alot more often than I see women prove me right. Offcourse I realise not all women are the way I describe. I have toned my posts down in recent times I think, but really when I used to say stuff like "ALL women hate sex" "Women have no intrest in men at all" "Most women couldn't care less if their SO died"... It's so I could get dozens of women tell me how thats not the case. I don't know why I have this negative view on women in the first place and why I need daily reassuring that women aren't the way I "fear" they are. 1 year ago I had never given these things a thought, it was sometime then that I got the impression of how things are and they just stuck. I do think I've made progress though. In my more serious posts I have said that I now accept the fact that women can like sex and instead of saying "ALL" women or the "vast majority" I now use the word significant amount more often instead. I noticed some of that progression and I'm glad to see your digging yourself out a bit. I had a pretty similar episode over the summer. As guys we tend to generalize more. It's an effect of male hormones. We just need to kick ourselves out of those thoughts before they create a rut. I personally don't think the women on this site are ever going to really prove you wrong. Many of them are looking for the same kind of thing from you. The only women who can really prove you wrong and help you... are the ones you know in real life. What holds you back from asking for a date? Is there just no women you like?
waynebrady Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 And that is the emphasis of trolling. People come here asking for advice. You come here to discourage them. You don't belong here. And what are you gonna do about it?
Ms. Joolie Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 This thread has lost control!! Everybody, EVERYBODY on this thread takes life too seriously!!!
Kamille Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) Yet you can barely muster up a kind word for guys like WB or Steve80. Guys who your kindness over time could actually make a difference! Really? Because as I see it, I'm one of the only posters who actually sees WB's points without turning them into war crimes and jokes around with him about it. He humors me back, so I think it's all in good fun. I do try to help him on a regular basis, when I can - when I think he might be receptive to it. I do honestly, seriously, enjoy his threads and he knows this. Edited February 17, 2011 by Kamille
mortensorchid Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 Women are just as bitter as men are. Often times for the same reasons, whatever they may be. There's a challenge for everything in life.
Kamille Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 As guys we tend to generalize more. It's an effect of male hormones. Nope. Generalizing and stereotyping is an effect of struggles for domination. It's social. It has nothing to do with hormones. Sociology 101.
Untouchable_Fire Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 Really? Because as I see it, I'm one of the only posters who actually sees WB's points without turning them into war crimes and jokes around with him about it. He humors me back, so I think it's all in good fun. I do try to help him on a regular basis, when I can - when I think he might be receptive to it. I do honestly, seriously, enjoy his threads and he knows this. I never see that. Also other female posters respect you and often follow your lead. Maybe you should set up a conference. Nope. Generalizing and stereotyping is an effect of struggles for domination. It's social. It has nothing to do with hormones. Sociology 101. It comes from compartmentalizing. High levels of testosterone push you towards that kind of thinking. Some of you ladies drive me up the wall because you find it easy to believe that estrogen can alter mood and change how you think a bit. However if I say testosterone can have a similar effect... it's No Way, Can't Happen.
Kamille Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 However if I say testosterone can have a similar effect... it's No Way, Can't Happen. I didn't say anything about estrogen. I merely pointed to the fact that the scientific community considers stereotyping to be a social process. I have yet to read a study that links stereotyping to hormones.
xpaperxcutx Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 I never see that. Also other female posters respect you and often follow your lead. Maybe you should set up a conference. Says the guy who comes on here every few weeks and doesn't follow or read the more critical and important threas. It comes from compartmentalizing. High levels of testosterone push you towards that kind of thinking. Some of you ladies drive me up the wall because you find it easy to believe that estrogen can alter mood and change how you think a bit. However if I say testosterone can have a similar effect... it's No Way, Can't Happen. Please read this. http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/estrogen-and-womens-emotions
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