U1987 Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 Last week, I went out with a girl from one of my classes (not the one who flaked yesterday) I had asked how to isolate her in a situation that would be conducive to my escalating physically with her. I was worried that might have been difficult since we met up in separate cars. (I had managed to do it though; we met up in one place in separate cars but to go to another place, I took her in my car, and we made out in my car there) A lot of you said that was "creepy" for having asked how to isolate her; that is sounded like I was trying to "control" her. I really don't understand why that's creepy. This pick up artist was a guest on Dr. Phil, and he explains that his success with women revolves quickly getting them alone in a "controlled environment" that's conducive to his hooking up with them. ( ) No one seemed to think that was "Creepy." Why is it when I ask?
GorillaTheater Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 Choice of words is likely the problem. Saying that you want to get a girl alone is one thing. Saying you want to "isolate" her brings other, less pleasant and more Ted Bundy-ish things to mind.
bayouboi Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 I only watched the 1st 10 seconds, but the only difference between whether someone is creepy or not is only dependent upon their physical appearance. I'm straight, but I'm assuming the guy in that video is considered attractive to women so he gets a pass. You might also be attractive, but unless someone saw a picture of you most people likely assume you're physically unattractive in real life just because you're a faceless poster on the internet. There are some posters on this site who post things that seem very low self esteem and sometimes even pathetic, but because they've revealed pictures of themselves that are physically attractive, they usually get very positive feedback whereby someone else posting the same thing without a picture or with a physically unattractive picture would be treated much different.
Nexus One Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 "Trying to get some alone time with the two of us" would be a different way of phrasing it, but yeah it is basically isolating her if there's a planned strategy behind it. "Isolating" sounds negative, as if she didn't get voluntarily in that situation with you. But from what you're saying it seems very much done with her full consent.
irc333 Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 Just watch this " " lol It's a Sat. night Live skit one of those ITS SO funny, because its TRUE
Nexus One Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 or "getting some one on one time with her"
sally4sara Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 The only way you can use the word isolate around a woman who doesn't know you well without coming off like a creep is if you use it humorously AFTER you've already found a moment of privacy. Try instead, not responding immediately to one of her questions and then: "Sorry, I was distracted by wondering what it would be like to kiss you; so many people around and I don't want to make a scene. What was the question?" She'll know you're attracted, but still enough in control of yourself to continue talking. This way, you've made your want known without being overbearing or impatient. If she wants to be kissed, she'll stop making sure all her dealings with you are public. This stuff doesn't come off just because YOU want it to happen. But if she knows you're interested in physical touch and doesn't keep to public places......its a good sign. If you're all in her face with words like "isolation" and sexual interest only, you come off like a psycho no one is comfortable being alone with.
somedude81 Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 The problem people had with your thread is that you were asking how to cut off her escape routes. That is creepy. There's a big difference from wanting to be alone with a girl, to making sure that she can't run away. BTW, I'm sure you're thinking that if you picked up the girl you were supposed to meet at the bar, she wouldn't have flaked on you. And the answer to that is, no. Even if you arranged to pick her up, she still could have said that she was tired and not want to go out when you were outside her house. I'll give you a tip that should relieve some headache about flaking Until a girl has earned your trust, always call or text her and confirm that you are still on before you even leave your house. Do it 30 min to an hour before you are supposed to meet. It won't prevent flaking, but at least you won't be waiting somewhere for her to show up.
Ross PK Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 I was going to say, it doesn't sound creepy to me, or controlling. But then I read this, The problem people had with your thread is that you were asking how to cut off her escape routes. Woah!
xpaperxcutx Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 Do you know the type of person who actually uses the word " isolate"? Predators, thats whom.
Ross PK Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 Do you know the type of person who actually uses the word " isolate"? Predators, thats whom. All men are predators with women.
EasyHeart Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 This pick up artist was a guest on Dr. Phil, and he explains that his success with women revolves quickly getting them alone in a "controlled environment" that's conducive to his hooking up with them. ( ) No one seemed to think that was "Creepy." Why is it when I ask?I watched that video and found that guy incredibly creepy. So did the audience. So who thinks being a predator isn't creepy?
xpaperxcutx Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 All men are predators with women. So do you " isolate" your women?
Ross PK Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 So do you " isolate" your women? I've never had a woman before. But sometimes I would. All men do. And all women do it with men. What do you think it means when a guy wants a woman to come over to his place and for it to be just the two of them? Or when a woman wants a guy to go over to her place and for it to just be the two of them? They're their object of affection to be 'isolated' with them.
GivenUp0083 Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 Saying you want to "isolate" her brings other, less pleasant and more Ted Bundy-ish things to mind. There's a big difference from wanting to be alone with a girl, to making sure that she can't run away. I laughed so hard at this because it's so true of this guy...
Mme. Chaucer Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 He is a creepy predator. BUT, he is probably behaving in a way that is true to his real nature. He is like a "born salesman," and the product he's selling is himself. He is very good looking and he knows it. He carries himself with an air of confidence that people around him are going to pick up on (haha - "pick up on"). I understand that Ted Bundy had these same characteristics. Let's just hope that how this guy intends to use the women he ensnares stops short of murder. Probably, since he's on TV. Hm. I wonder how his fame has affected his game? You, on the other hand, OP, regardless of your physical appearance, have demonstrated brilliantly that you don't have this kind of personality (which is far from admirable to most everyone anyway). I don't think you would be a very successful cold calling salesman, either. This guy would be.
Ross PK Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 They want their object of affection to be 'isolated' with them, I meant. Damn not being able to edit posts after someone else has posted.
Ross PK Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 I must admit, trying to 'isolate' a woman does kinda have a creepy tone to it though. I want us to be alone together, sounds better. Unless it's your first date.
xpaperxcutx Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 I must admit, trying to 'isolate' a woman does kinda have a creepy tone to it though. I want us to be alone together, sounds better. Unless it's your first date. Exactly. I do not want to " isolate" myself with a man I want to spend some " alone time" with him in his room. Doesn't the latter sound so much more nicer and naughtier?
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