Titania22 Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 The reason men are traditionally the hunters is because for 50,000 years men were the ones with the education, the money and the house. They were the ones who were in the position to choose whom they want to 'invite' into their lives. Men who were hunters didn't have education or money. Just saying!
musemaj11 Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Men who were hunters didn't have education or money. Just saying! Lol, at first I was like "What is she talking about?". :laugh:
Duckduckgoose Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 I dunno her number, not sure I would post it on a forum though
USMCHokie Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 So I think intelligence is relative. I agree with this 100%. I am turned on by functional intelligence rather than purely academic intelligence. That is, I value the ability to problem solve and operate and make decisions quickly. On the other hand, I'm turned off by those who give off that pretentious "intellectual" vibe simply because they love to talk about random, irrelevant nothings and regurgitate sh*t they read somewhere, passing it off as their own thoughts... But to each their own.
Woggle Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 It is unfair that intelligent and successful women get judged as not being suitable mates but I do understand where it comes from. I certainly don't agree with it but it but there is a reason. Men hate feeling disposable and useless with a woman. We like to feel needed or at least wanted and with the way misandrists shove down our throat how useless and not needed we are now that woman are independent it makes women like this very intimidating. We figure we have no role or purpose in her life anyway so we go where we feel needed.
30Years Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 I dunno her number, not sure I would post it on a forum though I know what...just key it in a real small font. Nah, that won't work. I know, I'll give you my number and you can give it to her. But tell her if a wife -- I mean, woman answers - HANG UP!
Titania22 Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 I know, I'll give you my number and you can give it to her. But tell her if a wife -- I mean, woman answers - HANG UP! You're really good value today.
Lovelybird Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Hey guys I just have a random question for you. Are females with brains a turn off? I was kind of always bought up with the feeling that I could never get a partner unless I had some kind of degree or something. I was a very very ugly girl and got bullied alot and thus it was kinda set in my mind that the only way I could get a guy would be to impress him with my knowledge. So I put my head down and went to uni and worked my butt off! I have two science degrees, an endorsement and am now doing my masters in science. However it seems like this is a massive turn off for guys. I never bring it up unless asked but when I do say what I study or what I have studied they seem to run for the hills. Its kinda gotten to the point where Im almost embarrased to talk about it and I dread being asked!! So I was just a little curious if it is a turn off for a female to have brains? Thanks I think your intelligence is your asset. Are you genuinely loving what you are doing? If so, a passionate woman is a charming woman. Probably the belief you have for yourself is building up walls that telling man I-am-not-approachable? as if you use your intelligence to purposefully intimate man so that they would stay far from you? There are lots of successful women who have successful love lives.
dispatch3d Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 stuff like this can trigger some weird reactions. I've had girls go really googly-eyed on me, and be like oh I can't talk about my degree it's not interesting blablabla. Haha I think? I used to tell them I was interested in nuclear. Nooooo don't do that anymore. The most they would get from me is "I'd like to get into power". I don't really have an answer for this though. I think I'd prefer to avoid the subject? It's not like I'm going to start talking to them about stuff from my degree. It's pretty technical and to put it in non-nerd speak is cumbersome. Plus do they really give a **** how to run like.... an absorption tower? Probably not. Anyhow my 2 cents.
dispatch3d Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 I agree with this 100%. I am turned on by functional intelligence rather than purely academic intelligence. That is, I value the ability to problem solve and operate and make decisions quickly. On the other hand, I'm turned off by those who give off that pretentious "intellectual" vibe simply because they love to talk about random, irrelevant nothings and regurgitate sh*t they read somewhere, passing it off as their own thoughts... But to each their own. Yeah the second part USMC talks about "pretentious" so on is basically exactly what I am. Haha minus the pretentious . They aren't really nothings, but like I may talk about what I read up on dark matter, etc. I kind of have to watch where I do that though because a lot of people don't reactive positively to it. Anyhow.
Disillusioned Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Quote: Originally Posted by Disillusioned It's generally well known that less intelligent people enjoy sex more. Dummies have us brainiacs beat in bed, hands down. You're kidding me, right? Unfortunately, no. I might have a vivid imagination, but I can't make this stuff up.
wbr4p Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 I'm turned on by women with brains, but a lot of other men are turned off by them. It's generally well known that less intelligent people enjoy sex more. Dummies have us brainiacs beat in bed, hands down. Hmm i dont think this is true, i know a guy who had his masters at 20 and skipped a level in college, has a degree in astronomy (or something, im not sure what it is to be exact) is horny every day and let me knows about it.
montana15 Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 I like sarcastic girls. Don't know why, but i just think sarcasam usually follows suit to intelligence. So yes, i like intelligent girls.
calvinabram Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Men are not turned off by women who are much more educated or much richer. But men are intimidated by women who are much more educated or much richer. Personally I stay away from women who are more educated or wealthier than me. Its not because I dont like them. In fact I do. But its just that like other men, Im socially conditioned to believe that women dont respect men who are less in status. So better not start it in the first place then start it and dumped later. Sorry, but I have to disagree with you totally. You may be intimidated by an intelligent woman or one who has more materialistic possiesions/money than you, but that sounds like a personal issue and something you may want to get over. As for myself, I like a female who has good brain (literally and figuratively). The only concern is most female I have met with degrees or advanced degress tend to think they know everything and that is a turn off. Finally, the OP stated she was very very unattractive in the past. Are you still unattractive? If so, this may be the reason men are running... IJS
sydneysider1978 Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) Duckduckgoose, you're friend sounds just like me (although perhaps not the gorgeous bit...) Predictably, most of the guys here say they like intelligent women. I think that a large proportion of them like smart, as long as they are not smarter than them. I'm an engineer too and it's got to the stage where I go out of my way to avoid talking about my job to guys I meet. I scrub up fairly well and will get chatted up on a night out. Things will be lovely and light and flirty until they ask me what I do. I don't want to lie and I don't believe in false modesty. So I'll just say I'm an engineer and try to keep it brief. The guy will usually skip a beat and say something like "wow, you must be really smart". The thing is, it doesn't feel like a compliment, it's like "oh, ****" and the flirtiness dies. The thing is, yes, I'm smart at what I do, but there are lots of different types of smart. I'm also a bit goofy, forgetful and not nearly as good at languages as I am at maths. I'm open to getting to know all sorts of people but I feel like guys put me in the "too hard" basket when they find out that I'm smart. Maybe the answer is not chatting to guys in bars. *shrug* Edited February 9, 2011 by sydneysider1978 typo
Kissbang Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Where I come from. having adegree doesn't mean you're smart. Don't know if it's the same in the USA. A person, male or female, can have tons of diplomas yet be nothing way too special. Basically, I've heard from older ppl (parents, parents' friends, customers at where I work, at the bus stop etc...) that men usually fear girls with brains. And by judging on my case, I think they do.
Mrlonelyone Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 @sydneysider1978 Women are the same way. People will say that they are attracted to smarts....just so long as one is not too smart. For me it usually goes like this. Her: What do you do? Me: I am a graduate student. Her: What do you study? Me: I am writing my thesis in physics and cosmology? Her: What is cosmology? Me: I study the big bang and evolution of the universe just after it. Her face: To the original point of this thread. Yes being too smart is a big turn off to allot of people. The truth is that people of demonstrably greater intelligence cause anxiety, and resentment in a great many people simply by being themselves. That is because someone with an IQ of 130 is as mentally advanced, as a person with an IQ of 70 is mentally retarded. The first person simply understands things that much faster than the average...or understands things that an average person may never get. (For some reason the above can be taken as an insult by some people...yet physical strength, money etc can be flaunted. I say high IQ..If you got it....flaunt it.) @Kissbang True. It depends on what the degree's are in and where they are from. A degree in the hard sciences, maths, medicine from anywhere... or a degree from a prestigious institution in it's field mean something. However the lack of degree's does not mean one is not highly intelligent. Many very bright people just don't take to the academic environment.
Mrlonelyone Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Here is a good website that speaks to the condition of many gifted women. http://talentdevelop.com/articles/Page1.html A specialist in psychological issues facing gifted people, Dr. Linda Silverman notes in one of her books ("Counseling the Gifted and Talented"): "Because of their enhanced ability to perceive social cues and their early conditioning about the critical importance of social acceptance, gifted girls are much more adept than gifted boys at imitation. "They fit in by pretending to be less capable than they really are, disappearing into the crowd." There is also an aspect I have had to wrestle with. All cultures label various pursuits as "masculine" or "feminine". While many gifted people simply ignore those labels and are interested in whatever they are interested in. Androgyny and gender One aspect of identity often related to giftedness is androgyny, a concept developed by Stanford University psychologist Sandra Bem. She does not view femininity and masculinity as opposite poles of a single continuum, but rather as parallel sets of traits. An androgynous person will have high levels of both so-called masculine traits (e.g. independence, autonomy, dominance) and feminine traits (warmth, awareness of others' feelings, expressiveness). In her book "The Lenses of Gender" Bem argues that gender polarization can be very destructive personally and socially, and that there are many more variations of masculinity and femininity than society usually considers. Given that calling a trait "masculine" or "feminine" is a bias, a number of psychologists and others have commented that creative people and gifted women tend to be more androgynous.
oaks Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Are females with brains a turn off? No. The complete opposite.
30Years Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 You're really good value today. Thank you. You might want to come back on Thursdays --- It's double coupon day.
Scottdmw Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 It might just be that the guys don't know what to say about your line of work. This happens to me all the time as a man when I tell women what I do. As soon as I say “electrical engineering” most people, men or women, give me a blank stare as they desperately try to come up with a follow-up question. There may be some element of being intimidated by intelligence, I think it's mostly that people just literally don't know what to ask about your line of work because they have absolutely no knowledge of it. Scott
utterer of lies Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) Are females with brains a turn off? No. Having a brain is actually a prerequisite. The trick is getting to know the right people - of course, if you mainly meet construction workers and taxi drivers, they might be scared off. But if I think of me and my friends, most of their gfs or wives have at least a bachelor's degree if not a master or PhD (or are still studying to get it). Edited February 9, 2011 by utterer of lies
Mrlonelyone Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 It might just be that the guys don't know what to say about your line of work. This happens to me all the time as a man when I tell women what I do. As soon as I say “electrical engineering” most people, men or women, give me a blank stare as they desperately try to come up with a follow-up question. There may be some element of being intimidated by intelligence, I think it's mostly that people just literally don't know what to ask about your line of work because they have absolutely no knowledge of it. Scott Here's another interesting tidbit for the OP. Consider the life story of Mileva Maric... the wife of Albert Einstein. http://www.pbs.org/opb/einsteinswife/milevastory/early.htm She returned and, by the spring of 1899, all formality was gone. He called her Dollie. She dubbed him Johnny. They embarked on a "modern" love affair. Her parents were tolerant, knowing that Mileva's marital prospects were few, due to her intelligence and disability. His parents opposed the relationship on every level. She was too old, too bookish, lame, a Serb, not Jewish. Nothing much has changed. Einstein while he did womanize had similar problems finding any permanent relationships and after Mileva ended up marrying his fat old cousin. (For those who remember some of my first post about my Ex/baby mama.... we were kind of like these two in a number of ways.)
O'Malley Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 It might just be that the guys don't know what to say about your line of work. This happens to me all the time as a man when I tell women what I do. As soon as I say “electrical engineering” most people, men or women, give me a blank stare as they desperately try to come up with a follow-up question. There may be some element of being intimidated by intelligence, I think it's mostly that people just literally don't know what to ask about your line of work because they have absolutely no knowledge of it. This likely is the reasoning behind some of the initial reactions that you're receiving from men. My field of work is something that people either aren't generally familiar with or their interests aren't similar to mine. I wouldn't downplay your educational background, however, because it is an important part of who you are. Some people value different types of intelligence. It's not so much intimidation as simply having non compatible viewpoints.
Disillusioned Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 I like sarcastic girls. Don't know why, but i just think sarcasam usually follows suit to intelligence. So yes, i like intelligent girls. It makes perfect sense to me. And probably to anyone else who grew up in a household full of adults who had slow wits and bad tempers.
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