Question related to the thread about it being easier for women to get sex/dating

[Ross PK]

 

So you don't think men care enough about their partners to genuinely want to know how their day went?

 

Are you saying curiousaboutthings got it backwards and it would be men who don't care about women that much?

 

Come on guys, I'm glad you get to come on here and enjoy being the victims of the universe, but you're only doing yourselves a disservice by having such a self-serving obtuse vision of gender relations.

 

I was only joking. I was drunk.

[Mrlonelyone]

So how have things changed? Most women get asked out every week even in when they are in a relationship. How do you think that makes their boyfriends and husbands feel? That is why most jealous partners are men. Women never have to deal with that type of situation. Never have I seen a marriage where the man got more attention outside of the relationship. This is f\made even worse by the fact that married women and women with boyfriends seek that attention to validate their fragile little egos(in various ways such as going to nightclubs with their female friends where many are unfaithful and think it is their right to do so because of their gender. How many women have had to deal with some woman kissing their boyfriend? Not as many as men have because men don't seek that attention nor could they get it if they did/

 

Oh yes men can and do get that kind of attention from women.

 

Who do you think the men that the women cheat with are?

[Mad Max]

I can't speak for other men, but I see women that approach men and I've been approached before. If you're comparing average men and average women, yes it's easier for a woman to get a date. Getting sex will always favor the woman no matter what.

[paddington bear]

That is my experience too, except I never had a woman asking me out on a date.

 

I've asked men out. You guys think you'd like it, but you don't. That whole hunting thing I think. Complimented at first, but then the realisation that what dropped into your lap came all too easily and is thus quickly devalued.

 

Depends where you come from regarding men paying for dates etc. It's not the same all over the world. Many female friends of mine, including myself have no real interest in marriage. Pay half and half for dates (I seriously don't get this man paying business, particularly when you barely know the person and may never see them again...why should they pay for a meal under these circumstances? Just throwing money away)

 

I do feel for men in that they are expected to be the initiators, this makes things hard for shy guys etc. no one likes to be rejected. One of the most horrible feelings in the world for both sexes.

 

Men have it hard, women have it hard, just look at all the posts on LS.

[Duckduckgoose]

Not all men are alike, like not all women are alike. Not all women play games... I am a woman and I find mind games, drama, and manipulation stupid.

 

I do feel like a man has to show interest in me before I will date him though. I do not throw myself at men, it's degrading. I am very fair to the person I am with, very caring, and nurturing.

 

Perhaps the OP and some of the others typing in this post are messing with the wrong people.

[Mad Max]

I've asked men out. You guys think you'd like it, but you don't. That whole hunting thing I think. Complimented at first, but then the realisation that what dropped into your lap came all too easily and is thus quickly devalued.

 

Depends where you come from regarding men paying for dates etc. It's not the same all over the world. Many female friends of mine, including myself have no real interest in marriage. Pay half and half for dates (I seriously don't get this man paying business, particularly when you barely know the person and may never see them again...why should they pay for a meal under these circumstances? Just throwing money away)

 

I do feel for men in that they are expected to be the initiators, this makes things hard for shy guys etc. no one likes to be rejected. One of the most horrible feelings in the world for both sexes.

 

Men have it hard, women have it hard, just look at all the posts on LS.

 

 

You haven't asked out enough men to come to that conclusion. If you looked like Megan Fox, I'm sure any guy you ask out wouldn't have a problem.

[paddington bear]

Getting sex will always favor the woman no matter what.

 

True but...I think most normal, healthy women don't want 'just sex' they want a relationship.

 

From that perspective men have just as much power over women, they have the power to withhold what women want, love and a relationship.

[paddington bear]

You haven't asked out enough men to come to that conclusion. If you looked like Megan Fox, I'm sure any guy you ask out wouldn't have a problem.

 

Haaahhaa yes, this too is true.

 

I tried this for a while as an experiment. I'm not that bad of a looker, (but no Megan Fox either). After a few months of it, I simply gave up because it either confused guys, or as I said, they devalued me because they missed out on the thrill of the chase...but that was just my experience, perhaps other women have had a different one than me.

[Mad Max]

Haaahhaa yes, this too is true.

 

I tried this for a while as an experiment. I'm not that bad of a looker, (but no Megan Fox either). After a few months of it, I simply gave up because it either confused guys, or as I said, they devalued me because they missed out on the thrill of the chase...but that was just my experience, perhaps other women have had a different one than me.

 

 

Depends on who you ask too. I've had attractive women hit on me and I even went on dates with them, and even relationships. If a guy that's average looking at best has someone that's an 8+ hitting on them and/or asking him out, he's going to think she's up to something. If the guy is similar on the looks scale, it'll work out better.

 

Men don't like the thrill of the chase. It's a common misconception. Just like the misconception that women aren't as much into sex.

[singlelife]

When women come home from work, some of the things they do are cook dinner, wash the kids, do laundry, do gardening, take out the garbage, do crap, talk with their spouse about how their day went, clean the floor, pay the bills, etc etc etc. 'Crap' at home doesn't magically do itself.

 

 

I think this thread is more talking about pre relationship actions. Yes in a relationship women break out all the nuturing skills. But in trying to know a women a lot of women basically don't do anything actually to show a man they are really worth all the things they are doing to court them. Not even talking about sex. I don't think women realize this but they prolly show like 15% of there overall package. Like how smart you really are or your passions to show a man you are really compatible. Then I think they just hang in for the sex and marry another women.

[PerpetualMotion]

So how have things changed? Most women get asked out every week even in when they are in a relationship. How do you think that makes their boyfriends and husbands feel? That is why most jealous partners are men. Women never have to deal with that type of situation. Never have I seen a marriage where the man got more attention outside of the relationship. This is f\made even worse by the fact that married women and women with boyfriends seek that attention to validate their fragile little egos(in various ways such as going to nightclubs with their female friends where many are unfaithful and think it is their right to do so because of their gender. How many women have had to deal with some woman kissing their boyfriend? Not as many as men have because men don't seek that attention nor could they get it if they did/

 

My experience is that after the first or second date, things tend to level out, assuming that there's still interest in both sides.

 

Oh... And I know a few married guys that get hit by women, my brother for instance. Maybe that's what I need to do... get married.

 

I've asked men out. You guys think you'd like it, but you don't. That whole hunting thing I think. Complimented at first, but then the realisation that what dropped into your lap came all too easily and is thus quickly devalued.

 

Depends where you come from regarding men paying for dates etc. It's not the same all over the world. Many female friends of mine, including myself have no real interest in marriage. Pay half and half for dates (I seriously don't get this man paying business, particularly when you barely know the person and may never see them again...why should they pay for a meal under these circumstances? Just throwing money away)

 

I do feel for men in that they are expected to be the initiators, this makes things hard for shy guys etc. no one likes to be rejected. One of the most horrible feelings in the world for both sexes.

 

Men have it hard, women have it hard, just look at all the posts on LS.

 

I don't mind asking a girl out on a date, but because I'm shy, I tend to be very "selective" on who I ask. It has happened, more than once, a girl having a crush on me and me being clueless for months. If they had asked me out, they had a pretty good chance of hearing a yes from me, at least the ones I know now that were into me.

 

I'm aware that there are guys that may get turned off if they don't do the chasing, but I'm not one of them.

[Ruby Slippers]

Sure, men are expected to initiate. But this does not mean women have it any easier than men.

 

I'm not interested in 90% of the guys who approach me. So I have to do my best to let them down easy, and some of them get whiny, or even mean.

 

I would love to turn the tables for a year, to let women do all the approaching. Then I could approach the men I'm really interested in, instead of waiting for them to come to me.

[Mad Max]

Sure, men are expected to initiate. But this does not mean women have it any easier than men.

 

I'm not interested in 90% of the guys who approach me. So I have to do my best to let them down easy, and some of them get whiny, or even mean.

 

I would love to turn the tables for a year, to let women do all the approaching. Then I could approach the men I'm really interested in, instead of waiting for them to come to me.

 

 

You can do that now.

[Ruby Slippers]

You can do that now.

Now, why you'd have to go and say something that makes so much sense?

[Mad Max]

Now, why you'd have to go and say something that makes so much sense?

 

 

Logic is a funny thing, ain't it?

[MrNate]

Now, why you'd have to go and say something that makes so much sense?

 

Ha, you might as well give it a go.. I've yet to see one aggressive woman be unsuccessful in obtaining her desired mate.. lol.

 

But of course.. I can understand most women want to feel romanced.

[musemaj11]

I've asked men out. You guys think you'd like it, but you don't. That whole hunting thing I think. Complimented at first, but then the realisation that what dropped into your lap came all too easily and is thus quickly devalued.

 

Depends where you come from regarding men paying for dates etc. It's not the same all over the world. Many female friends of mine, including myself have no real interest in marriage. Pay half and half for dates (I seriously don't get this man paying business, particularly when you barely know the person and may never see them again...why should they pay for a meal under these circumstances? Just throwing money away)

 

I do feel for men in that they are expected to be the initiators, this makes things hard for shy guys etc. no one likes to be rejected. One of the most horrible feelings in the world for both sexes.

 

Men have it hard, women have it hard, just look at all the posts on LS.

U sound very considerate.

 

Yes, its hard for all of us. So I don't understand people who expect others to do anything for them. Selfish bastards.

[zengirl]

Haaahhaa yes, this too is true.

 

I tried this for a while as an experiment. I'm not that bad of a looker, (but no Megan Fox either). After a few months of it, I simply gave up because it either confused guys, or as I said, they devalued me because they missed out on the thrill of the chase...but that was just my experience, perhaps other women have had a different one than me.

 

I say I ask men out, but really I ask them to ask me out, I guess if it boils down to it. I do it in a particular way where they can hopefully get the testosterone boost from the "hunting" aspect as well as feel secure that I'll say yes (which is all most men really want when they say they want women to ask them out). Basically, I "set" and they spike. I imagine some men do feel emasculated if the woman takes the reins completely, even men who theoretically 'know better' miss that dose of testosterone they get from the chase.

[unixuser]

You can do that now.

 

I just lol'd

[musemaj11]

Men don't want to be chased or hunted. But just like women, men also want to feel wanted. I don't think that's too much to ask.