RaysofHope Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 (edited) Before you can understand the subject title, you'll probably need the following background info to put it all into context: I found out last March that my wife had been cheating on me with a mutual friend of ours. Starting in 2005, this guy, my wife and I worked together at the same company for 2 years. I worked side-by-side with him and my wife had occasional contact with him in the office due to work obligations. This was all until until he left our workplace to become a realtor around 2007. Ever since then he's been in and out of my wife and I's lives since he's still friends with a good friend of mine at work. I worked closely with him for two years, had dinner with him on a few occasions after he had left our company, I invited him to my wife's birthday parties and, he was at my bachelor party, we planned our friend's bachelor party together and, the main subject of this post, he was the realtor my wife and I bought our house through that we were supposed to move into after our wedding (Much - more on this later). We weren't the best of friends, but we knew each other more than well enough that what he did is incredibly disgusting! This "friend" is someone who is usually very reserved and quiet. I thought this guy to be very soft and gentle inside, like most quiet people usually are. After reading the emails he sent my wife though, I know he's quiet because he's afraid of anyone seeing just how black and gross the real person within is. In all this time that I've known him , I don't think I or even one of his best friends (a guy I work with) or even his own brother (who I also work with) would have ever suspected this is what he's actually like. It started after a really bad fight we had. My wife said she had desperately needed someone to talk to. Her PC was on and he just happened to be on her list of internet messaging buddies from way back and was also online. It had started by asking for advice regarding our fight and it's all been downhill from there. They were talking behind my talk as just friends, which I know is true by the emails I found, but transitioned to a full relation right after we got married when the fights we had over finances,where to buy our house etc got more intense. The moment this guy had my wife's trust in this relationship, he immediately got to work with his real plan. Almost everytime he went to her place he'd bring his extensive collection of alcohol from his "house" (he lives in his parent's basement where he keeps a fully stocked bar. A rather telling sign of how often he might be doing stuff like this to other people) to her condo and "selflessly" trying to cheer her up about her poor marriage by bringing her to the bar for drinks. At some point, she must've resisted or showed a disinterest in all these alcohol-related activities - which isn't a surprise since she doesn't consume any alcohol outside of the rare occassions where she would go clubbing with girlfriends - because of one of the emails I had later found from him had the following text: "Hey XXXXX, I found this article: <insert link to really serious looking scientific research paper> that says alcohol is good for you. We should go out for drinks more often" WHAT A SCUMMMBAGGGG!!!!! You know you're going to new lows when you're grasping at science to justify what your true intentions are. I can't believe he would even try to pull something like that. As the relation grew deeper, he'd send her things like "what are you going to do to me to show me how much you love me". When she rejected him and asked him to show her a house (messed up how both of them were aware she was still looking for a house to live in with me when she was already doing this) he would get upset and be like "Oh is that all I'm good for is showing you a house!". Of course, in their time apart, he's just bombarding her with attention like txt messages/phone calls throughout the day. Another email I found from him started with "Oh XXXX, I love you and appreciate you so much and will do anything for our future!". This email was sent during the time where all three of us would be out on the weekends looking at houses through him for my wife's and I future. That rat has the nerve to lie right to my wife's face. I can almost, almost semi-excuse my wife for her actions in this mess because of all the problems we had leading up to and after our marraige. Of course, there's her side of the blame for the problems too but that's a whole other issue there. I do make it very clear that I take no responsibility in her decision to cheat to solve these problems though. However, this "friend" has absolutely no excuse for his choice to partake in this. How sick and desperate does he have to be to take advantage of problem's in his friend's marraige to try to get laid? Not only that, but to then pretend to be "selfessly" "helping" out his new "girlfriend" by trying to get her drunk all the time and lying to her to try and get her pants off by spouting hollow "I love you's" at every opportunity. Uggghhhh!!!!! This is just the tip of the iceberg of all the emails I found too.. Arrrggg...I can't believe he can hide himself so well around all these people that have know him for so long! Fast forward to March of last year, which brings us closer to the main subject of this whole post. I catch them when I decide to check her phone bills after I became suspicious about how secretive she had become every time I ask her about what "friends" she was seeing. It was very easy for her to cheat since we're married but actually living seperately (Weird, I know, let me explain). Myself at home and her at a condo. We had decided it wasn't worth the trouble to move everything from my parent's house to her condo only to have to move all that same stuff again the moment we had found our real house to live in. At this point in time, we had already found and bought our house-to-be through this guy (Can't believe we paid him commission to help destroy our lives), but were still waiting to take possession so were still living separately. It was scheduled for completion 4 months from the date I caught them. This is when I learned that for many weekends prior to the cheating discovery (I still don't know how many), he had been taking her to a vacant condo of someone I think is either a client's (he also does property management with his realtor license) or a friend who had tasked him with taking care of while he temporarily lived in another country. She spent every weekend night with him there while giving me excuses on why I shouldn't spend weekend nights with her (I have girlfriends from out of town to entertain till late tonight, I have a lot of homework from my course etc.) He knew he never had a chance to get her to do anything as long as they only had her condo. He also knew he couldn't take her back to his parent's place or else his parents would start talking about his new GF with his brother who would immediately draw the connection.Also, he knew she was very afraid I could drop by one night or early morning at the condo. So, he abused the trust of one of his clients and turned his client's place into his own hotel room. After busting her, she swore she would stop seeing him and work on us. I didn't believe her so I put a GPS tracker on her car swearing to myself that I'll take it off when she earned my trust back. Like all the typical cheater behavior I'd been reading about since going down this hellish path, they never stop right away. I took an ill-timed business trip shortly after discovery, leaving the tracker on the car to record while I was gone. Despite all the promises from her prior to leaving, as expected, it all started again. My wife's car stopped at condos and houses all over the city to meet him in. None of which belonged to him and were for sale on the MLS system. All of which he must've ensured were un-occupied but fully furnished prior to him giving her the address. From discovery in March until Aug of last year when she has started to wake up, it's been a rollercoaster ride of emotions and cat-and-mouse games of me occassionally catching her over and over again sneaking off to one of those houses. I have no idea what happened in any of those houses and I don't think I'll ever know. My wife is still, to this day, not strong enough to tell me anything about what happened. I know for sure she didn't actually have sex with him but everything between kissing and actual sex was definitely possible given the way she was dressed the final time I busted her in Aug of last year. Between that time until today, we've made slow but steady progress and my wife is slowly waking to how much damage she has caused. I'm almost fully convinced she's no longer seeing him and things are slowly warming between us but very fragile. As much as I don't want to risk rocking the boat while we're recovering, it still eats me alive that this "friend" had collected commissions on our house and has not had to endure any of the tremendous amounts of pain and suffering my wife and I have had to go through due to their actions. In fact, he's running around feeling like Mr.Big based on the activity on his facebook page. That shy quiet guy I had mentioned before who always placed cars or object pictures as his facebook profile pic has now been replaced by a cocky ******* who posts huge profile shots of himself posing in different tacky outfits. It doesn't help that his new target is now some high school girl (he's close to 30) who eggs him on with "Wowie" comments on all these pictures of himself. I feel like I'm finally coming out of the coma I've been in after suffering for so long with such a crippling depression. I would really like to do what I never had the energy to do back when I was still just trying to get my wife back. I want to take everything I know about this guy's abuse of his realtor privileges and try to get his license yanked and himself banned from the association. However, I'm afraid what I have might not be enough for a solid case against him. My plan of action so far is to arrange a meeting between the manager of the regional real estate association (responsible for granting/cancellation/banning of RE licenses) and his managing broker (the manager of the office which he has a desk at) to convince them to do so. After that, we'll have the broker call a surprise meeting with my "friend" where they'll conclude to fire him after judging his reactions. However, I really just don't have enough evidence. All I really have is GPS data showing my wife pulling up to random houses and staying there for hours. Even though I know she was meeting him, I don't have solid evidence to even prove that. I've heard through another realtor they may be able to pull up which houses were accessed by him and hoping that the times match up with the GPS data, but it's been almost half-a-year now and I'm afraid the data is gone. Even with that data, he can always say he was just showing the house to her for 5 minutes and then they left somewhere in his car shortly after. As well, my wife never told me the exact location and unit # of the apartment they went too. Otherwise, that could've been someone I could've went to and had them come to this meeting to say that "yeah, it my apartment they were using and I had no idea". For all I know though, it also could've been a family friend who he was watching it for and was told he could use it for whatever. I'm pretty sure the two managers present will be heavily on my side, but will still be reluctant to let him go without any kind of proof short of pictures of him having sex with my wife inside a house confirmed to be "For-Sale". I can always hope they're stricter than that though and will see through his bs, but I need a backup plan just in case. I can't have him leave me looking like a fool again if he finds some lame excuse to squeeze through when we're all at the table together. I need some way to structure the conversation so that we draw him out a little and let him hang himself. I was thinking of having the managers draft his resignation papers and just tell him the moment he arrives that they have serious evidence and that he can avoid further embarrassment by resigning immediately. I'd first need the managers to be willing to say this though, but then I would also need to hope that he doesn't start asking too many questions about the evidence. I just hope his internal fear of what they mean by "evidence" will be enough to have him just sign the papers. If anyone can help me think of a sure-fire way to structure the dialogs in this meeting to, best case, have him banned from the realtors association, or worst case, force him to quit, I would be forever grateful. You'd probably be helping yourself too because you never know if the next bed, in the house he chooses to use next time he's got his hooks into some other poor girl, could be yours. Edited January 23, 2011 by RaysofHope
lkjh Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 I would talk to a lawyer about what sort of evidence you need to get him to lose his job. Also, you are letting your wife off way too easy. I am sorry to tell you this but she most likely slept with him and often. If you don't have children it may be time to get a divorce attorney. Your wife is a cheater and she has most likely lied this entire time.
FryFish Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 Ditch your wife NOW! Maybe you can get your wife to agree to go to the meetings and tell the truth before you throw her away like the garbage she is. Just lie and strong arm her. Tell her if she doesnt help you get some of your dignity back by getting the guy she was ****ing fired that its over.... Dont discuss it with her... its an ultimatum. A lie, but who gives a **** at this point?
LucreziaBorgia Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 I hate to say it, but there simply is not enough evidence to support a company having legal grounds to fire him. They are not going to risk a lawsuit by trying to call some guy's bluff based on said lack of evidence. It will be clear to them and it is clear to us that he and your wife have had something going on, but in order to legally dismiss him they would have to have irrefutable proof. If you want that, you will need to take your wife for a polygraph and have the results in hand - but even then that might not be enough. It will be enough for you to see that you are painting your wife as the victim and making way too many excuses for her. She's going to have to hang if you want any chance for OM to hang as well.
jenifer1972 Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 Don't air your personal problems so publicly. It will backfire. Your wife is the one who broke the circle of trust. He's an outsider. Deal with her.
Author RaysofHope Posted January 23, 2011 Author Posted January 23, 2011 I hate to say it, but there simply is not enough evidence to support a company having legal grounds to fire him. They are not going to risk a lawsuit by trying to call some guy's bluff based on said lack of evidence. It will be clear to them and it is clear to us that he and your wife have had something going on, but in order to legally dismiss him they would have to have irrefutable proof. If you want that, you will need to take your wife for a polygraph and have the results in hand - but even then that might not be enough. It will be enough for you to see that you are painting your wife as the victim and making way too many excuses for her. She's going to have to hang if you want any chance for OM to hang as well. To anyone who will be responding about how my wife is an awful cheater - yeah I already realize that more than anyone responding will ever be able to tell me so. For now, I need us to stay on topic to help me find a way to structure the mneeting conversations. I realize that there is little evidence here which is why I need to maximize the effect of what I do have. I need to set him up somehow and let him hang himself. Having my wife there may help, and I will most likely be able to force her into coming with me, but I have to be prepared she completely digs in and refuses. I know I most likely can't have him fired, but it's highly likely I can force him to resign if I play the cards right. So far, I've got the idea to have the resignation papers waiting for him and have his manager's tell him that "an investigation will be launching which will most likely ruin your career anyways". Hopefully, he will then sign the papers on the spot. I'm still thinking of ways to improve upon this and I hope you people out there can help me think too.
LucreziaBorgia Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 The most you can do is file a complaint with HR, the manager and the broker that includes your wife's testimony (as much as she will give, anyway) along with your documentation and let them take over from there. I'm telling you - no legit business is going to go along with 'tricking' someone into resigning or firing them with no real legal recourse, particularly when it is largely based on hearsay. Right now, doing what you are suggesting would put them at a real risk for a hefty lawsuit. They are not going to bluff this guy into quitting - not for you, not for anyone. Too much would be at risk if he calls that bluff. You are going to need to follow a more appropriate protocol which prompts an investigation rather than trying to trick someone into quitting. It just doesn't work that way, and as snakey as OM sounds I'm pretty sure he knows it too - it sounds like what he did with your wife is something he probably does on a regular basis. Document everything, and make as strong of a case for proof as you can. Get your wife to read it and sign off on it. Include documentation from a polygraph if you really want it to hit home. Take it to an independent business lawyer and see if you have a solid case, and then take your documentation to HR, the manager and the broker and let them take it from there. If they see fit to fire this guy after their own investigation then they will. They are absolutely not going to fire someone or go along with tricking someone into quitting unless their asses are 100% covered and lawsuit-proof. If you want to play chess, you don't simply sweep the pieces off the board and try to convince someone you would have won and try to force them to concede. You play it through methodically, with deadly precision and accurate moves.
lkjh Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 Man I understand revenge and I would go for it. But you need to get advice from an attorney and not people on loveshack. There are other things you can do like destroy his professional career but you need to make sure that he can't retaliate with a law suit. Look man, you really need to come to terms that your wife seriously deceived you and she wanted this to happen.
Bryanp Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 You need to talk to a lawyer and file a complaint with the board of realtors. I have to ask you if the roles had been reversed do you honestly think your would have been so accepting as you have been? How much humiliation and disrespect are you willing to endure? Why would you be willing to accept such disrespect from your wife and her putting your health at risk for STD's? You need to be checked for STD's by the way. All of this cheating, lies and betrayal started from the beginning of your marriage. Your wife has played you for a total fool and you are begging to remain with her. What is wrong with this picture? She has shown she has no respect for you whatsoever. If you do not respect yourself then who will?
melodymatters Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 Lucrezia Borgia is 100% correct. It wll be very clear that you are a jealous husband out for revenge : NOT the most reputable source. Coupled wth your very lame "proof". I was a Realtor for years and two things popped out at me : 1) the broker has much more allegiance to OM than to you. Brokers get complants from crazy clients on a daily basis. They almost always side wth the Realtor for legal AND personal reasons.( If the agent is liable, his broker is liable ) Plus, broker/agent relatons are not really in the realm of employee/employer. It costs the broker little to nothing to have you in his office but he gets 30-50% for every sale you make. Whats the broker going to gain by siding with you ??? 2) I dated another Realtor when we were both workng the same market ( different companes and we were both single) We often accompanied each other on many of the drop bys one needs to do when listng a home ( Put up or take down a sign, put more brochures in the tube, stop in to take pictures for the MLS, accompany the home inspector if the clients can't or don't want to, and on and on) If I were the other guy I would simply say that your wfe and I are frends and that she would accompany me on these errands whle we chit chatted and that you are a complete jealous, psycho. Give this plan up and come up wth somethng else if revenge is still your main objective. ( Which IMO it should not be, reconnectng wth your wife and getting marriage counseling perhaps)
jenifer1972 Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 Agree w/ the others. The broker will not put himself is a position to be sued under a condition called " vicarious liability". Plus the guy will probably hit you w/ harrassment/ stalking/ defamation of character and you will find yourself being served with a restraining order. The law is on the side of the accused sorry to say.
melodymatters Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 Re-readng again, I gave you my professonial opinion the first tme, but as a Sicilian, I must warn you : when you start a war, realize that when you back someone into a corner they have nothing left to lose and can become dangerous at worst or simply problematic at best. You are trying to destroy this guys livliehood, whether true or not, YOU and YOUR wife WILL be dragged through the mud : " His wife is a psycho whore who used to stalk me on my appointments and then give me head in the car" etc, etc.... The managment won't side with you AND you're opening up a BIG ol' can of worms !!!!
Author RaysofHope Posted January 24, 2011 Author Posted January 24, 2011 (edited) If the om were anyone other than a friend, I could let it go and just focus on (ditching)my wife. I shouldve clarified I don't have any intention of staying with her. We are settling everything between us and then it's over. We still have to finish many things with the house and then sell it. After that we will be formally splitting. During this period is when she has finally started to wake up as to how bad she screwed up her whole life and is finally starting to blame herself for what she did - not like it matters though - sorry should've been clearer. the fact that it was a friend and we bought our ****ing house through him is what makes me furious. I realize the broker will side with him which is why I will also have a member of the formal complaints department (the realtors association) there as well. I will be asking them to pull his realtor lock history and that should coincide with the gps data I have. He also can't use the "she was just accompanying me for work" excuse when none of those listings are his. they were also inside these houses for close to three hours each time so he also can't say that he was just showing her the place - which also makes no sense because we had already bought our house together by the time I obtained this data. Ive already anticipated his squirming and he'll have to sink into some pretty outrageous lies to justify himself. Management isn't stupid either and they'll see him squirming like crazy. Even if he can lie his way out there's no doubt that an impression will be made. How far this impression will take things remains to be seen. This guy is a huge liability for the company if he was to ever got caught in one of those houses next time he does this and im hoping they will also consider this too.I'm also not in the united states either. I know u guys are very lawyer happy there but it's a little looser where I live. I really have nothing left to lose either so I may as well try all avenues to get even with him before the big reveal to her parents and his parents and all our mutual friends. Edited January 24, 2011 by RaysofHope
Distant78 Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 It doesn't matter what policies or work laws set in place for OM. He made the conscious decision to help in the destruction of someone's marriage. Doesn't matter if the broker or the President of the United States isn't on your side. He ****ed with your wife and she ****ed with him and disrespected you and lied to you at home. You can't let folks run over you like this. Your wife broke eternal vows. Fight him legally and deal with your wife. Both of them are responsible. Both shall hang.
jenifer1972 Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 Good luck. They are both douches for doing this to you.
pureinheart Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 Don't air your personal problems so publicly. It will backfire. Your wife is the one who broke the circle of trust. He's an outsider. Deal with her. It will backfire, this I know for a fact...this is about revenge, so maybe every single wrong that you have committed will brought to light also.
aerogurl87 Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 A woman who can cheat on you when she's engaged and newly married is not a woman you want to stay married to. Cheating is bad enough when you're just dating (and I myself unfortunately did that to my ex when we were together) but when it's done and someone vows in front of friends, family, and possibly a higher power to stay faithful, then you need to walk. She's not worth the heartache and pain. Get a lawyer, get a divorce, and see if you two can sell your new house or move into it yourself if you like, but don't stay with her. By the way, why did you marry her if you two were having so many problems during your engagement to where she had to run to someone else for comfort?
Author RaysofHope Posted January 24, 2011 Author Posted January 24, 2011 It will backfire, this I know for a fact...this is about revenge, so maybe every single wrong that you have committed will brought to light also. It won't backfire as they both have so much more to lose. I've just been taking everything they've been throwing at me because I know when I retaliate - there's going to be nothing left of all three of our lives. They'll be the ones coming out the worst though. My wife's family will destroy her when they hear about what shes done as you wouldn't believe how conservative her parents are. She's terrified of them finding out because of how persistent they can be to punish people for the smallest of wrongdoings. If an elepehant never forgets, her parents are the human equivalent and will never let her live this down. As for him, as I mentioned earlier, before he turned into the current cocky ass was just a quiet shy guy. All of our mutual friends also think of him as such and will be so shocked to hear about the depths to which he sank to try and get laid. I don't think anyone of his married male friends would want to have this guy around their life, for the sake of protecting their own wives, after knowing how badly he screwed me over with no remorse. I'm sure the OM's brother would also love to hear how badly his own bro threw him under the bus on his quest to get laid. The OM's bro has also had an incredibly difficult marraige and has a lot of embarrassing skeletons in his closet regarding his wife. The OM told all of these to my wife to make her feel "special" since she's not like his bro's wife. I know this because, before I found out about the cheating, my wife was constantly coming to me and going "XXXXX's wife is like this. How come I'm not like this and you still don't think I'm special??". The first time I heard this, I thought to myself "WTF, where is this coming from, this is so out of the blue". I never took her seriously because I would always respond with "How the hell do you even know that about XXX? That's one hugely damaging piece of gossip that I really wouldn't trust in if I didn't hear it directly from XXXX or his wife". At which point she would say "I heard it from a friend". When I kept pressing her for who this friend was that knows so much about them, she'd start to get really angry about "that's not the point". After she said that, it pretty much destroyed any credibility of the whole story so I just brushed aside the whole thing - only to have her come back with it next week and the fight cycle begins again. After I discovered the cheating, she also shared with me all the skeletons. I couldn't believe what I was hearing and I honestly wish I hadn't. I can't look at the OM's bro or his wife in the same way anymore. I couldn't ****ing believe the OM would leak stuff like that about his family to my wife. Especially when my wife also works with the OM's bro, sees him quite often and even went to many casual events with him,his wife,myself and OM all present. I feel so sorry for his bro and his wife because, on the surface, the OM treats them so well and yet is airing all their dirty laundry out the back door. I'm sure his bro and the rest of his family would be thrilled to know what OM has done...... Like I had said though, there's no turning back once these bombs start dropping and I'll try all other avenues of releasing all this anger in me before I decide to go down the point of no return.
collegeguy_24 Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 I'm curious, you said your not in the US, what country are you in, and what laws do they have pertaining to this?
LucreziaBorgia Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 Do not request or go into a meeting without solid documentable proof. If you go in there without that and play the bluff game - even if he squirms and acts guilty there is still no legal recourse for firing him or forcing him to resign. Do your paperwork and legwork first. If you want to see him squirm, have a packet ready to put in front of him and everyone else. Give the broker and the manager time to launch an investigation and let them have their own packets of information. If there is no independent investigation to go along with your accusations, there is no chance he will be fired. If you go in there emptyhanded, you will leave the same way. That is just how business works. Its called CYA - they aren't going to do anything unless they are 100% sure they can't be sued by OM for it.
jane100 Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 Forget it. Such revenge is insane and will achieve absolutely nothing. Leave the marital home. Get some space/separation. But most of all, see a therapist where you can deal with your own feelings about it. Such revenge is rarely sweet and as others have alluded to can create a whole bunch of more problems. Sounds like you don't need any more than you have already.
Author RaysofHope Posted January 24, 2011 Author Posted January 24, 2011 Lucrezia, I share the same thoughts you. I've contacted a couple of lawyers today and will be following up when I have time. For anyone who's saying not to do this? What's the other options? Just sit here and do nothing and let my "friend" laugh about how he can do such disgusting things to me and suffer no recourse. It would be one thing if he actually felt sorry about what he had done and apologized, but that's the exact opposite of his behavior. I asked my wife what he thought of this whole situation and he has completely blame shifted everything to me saying "its all his fault this happened". R u ****ing kidding me? I had a hand in the problems of our relation but in no way did i tell my wife to solve these problems by doing this and i certainly didnt ask that ******* to come into our relationship. Like I said before, he's proud of what he did and his ego has inflated to the size of earth itself. There's no way I'm just going to lay down and take this. The silence enables him.
Author RaysofHope Posted January 24, 2011 Author Posted January 24, 2011 Do not request or go into a meeting without solid documentable proof. If you go in there without that and play the bluff game - even if he squirms and acts guilty there is still no legal recourse for firing him or forcing him to resign. Do your paperwork and legwork first. If you want to see him squirm, have a packet ready to put in front of him and everyone else. Give the broker and the manager time to launch an investigation and let them have their own packets of information. If there is no independent investigation to go along with your accusations, there is no chance he will be fired. If you go in there emptyhanded, you will leave the same way. That is just how business works. Its called CYA - they aren't going to do anything unless they are 100% sure they can't be sued by OM for it. It gets tricky because a portion of the proof needs to be provided by the broker. I need him to pull om's realtor key data which coincides with my wifes gps data. Like the other poster mentioned though, I'm afraid the broker will cover for his own since he sees the om as nothing but a revenue stream. However, the guy really generates no real revenue since he's partnered with a realtor who is the one providing all the leads and listings. He had no listings in his own name last year and I hope the broker will see how dispensable he is.
LucreziaBorgia Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 I need him to pull om's realtor key data which coincides with my wifes gps data. This would definitely be part of an internal investigation. I'd definitely request that this be part of the investigation. It would be circumstantial, but damning nonetheless.
jnj express Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 Hey Rays---depending on the state you are in----you can file the following tort actions----alienation of affection-----criminal conversation----intentional infliction of emotional distress----proofs are pretty easy---elements are easy to prove---there have been many, many million dollar jury awards in these type of cases---the last tort can be filed in any state---the 1st 2 only in certain states----the suit will be against the other man
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