pookster72 Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 im not totally sure what you're trying to say, but i've been interested in men who i viewed as both more and less attractive than i view myself. usually there's not too much difference either way, though.
Mad Max Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 Unattractive men are people to. They probably feel just as badly about hot girls not giving them the time of day, as the "unattractive" girls feel about some guys ignoring them. Valid point. I remember being on the other side. I vowed that I would never treat someone like that.
Gypsy_Soul Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 Should you not date Girls you like(Hot Beautiful girls)? Sure if you can get them to agree to date you in the first place.
Jazzari Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 Unattractive men are people to. They probably feel just as badly about hot girls not giving them the time of day, as the "unattractive" girls feel about some guys ignoring them.Nobody likes to be treated badly. I can agree with that. But I don't think people should have unreasonable expectations either. I expect the mega model guy to treat me politely. I don't expect him to ask me out.
Mad Max Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 Nobody likes to be treated badly. I can agree with that. But I don't think people should have unreasonable expectations either. I expect the mega model guy to treat me politely. I don't expect him to ask me out. Most people that are that good looking aren't the nicest people in the world.
SteveC80 Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 Why are you offering hugs to a woman, with the exact same issue, in a different thread? I have some sympathy for both of them. The problem is that people who are below average aren't blind. Even if he or she chooses you, they would rather be with someone else. It's a drag. its not just her its allot of the site a women makes this thread and is coddled and told its a guys loss if he ignores her and sell find a in demand guy a man does it is told act like and stop whining, get a six pack lots of money etc
Jazzari Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 Most people that are that good looking aren't the nicest people in the world.I have a few male actor friends and one who is also a model. They are all wonderful. But I admit, my experience is pretty limited. I don't know any female models or actresses.
Mad Max Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 I have a few male actor friends and one who is also a model. They are all wonderful. But I admit, my experience is pretty limited. I don't know any female models or actresses. It's hard to remain modest when you have people filling your head. I was approached to model myself. I gave the guy a 5 and told him to get lost. Some people don't want the attention. I know of a few guys that modeled. One was cool(he was gay though) and the rest were douches.
Billy_Boy Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 5's marry 5's, 7's with 7's etc, there might be a little wiggle room for a great personality or good income, but not much.
Billy_Boy Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 Most people that are that good looking aren't the nicest people in the world. This hasnt been my experience, I have noticed that attractive people are douches just as much as average people and less then attractive people. If anything I found attractive people to be a little nicer, I would imagine they would be, being attractive makes things a little easier in life, people laugh with you more, smile at you more, feel less threatened by your physical presence etc.
Mad Max Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 5's marry 5's, 7's with 7's etc, there might be a little wiggle room for a great personality or good income, but not much. Agreed. There's exceptions, but people generally marry pretty close to their attractiveness scale. The key is determining where one falls.
LeaningIntoTheMuse Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 Same with the gross over-weight middle-aged pigs at my workplace that had tried, desperately, to get me. Way out of your league ladies so ****ing back off into your hole. Unbelievable. Such a sick mind. As far as beautiful, try looking inside the girl for once. Perhaps the beauty queens are stuck up and shallow, with no depth, and that average geeky looking girl might have a heart of gold? You're being driven by lust, and I don't pretend to admit that I am not driven by lust, to some extent. However, true beauty comes from within...and the person who becomes beautiful to you, becomes that way over time.
Leigh 87 Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 Mad Max- aww , r all male models really jerks? That really dissapoints me. I thought we were changing a little in our society - where good looking people KNOW that it is cool to be nice. I wonder why super attractive people are mean... They have good genes so they should be NICER, cos they get to have great looks and should be really thankful.
Mad Max Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 Mad Max- aww , r all male models really jerks? That really dissapoints me. I thought we were changing a little in our society - where good looking people KNOW that it is cool to be nice. Most are, because people that good looking can get away with it. I wonder why super attractive people are mean... They have good genes so they should be NICER, cos they get to have great looks and should be really thankful. Like I said, they can get away with it. It's not in my nature to be like that. I wasn't raised that way and I remember what it is was like to be turned down by the hot girls when younger.
Leigh 87 Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 Unbelievable. Such a sick mind. As far as beautiful, try looking inside the girl for once. Perhaps the beauty queens are stuck up and shallow, with no depth, and that average geeky looking girl might have a heart of gold? You're being driven by lust, and I don't pretend to admit that I am not driven by lust, to some extent. However, true beauty comes from within...and the person who becomes beautiful to you, becomes that way over time. lol! Hey, Steve is sweet, but the thing is, he has had MANY very overweight women flirt with him and act like they have a good shot with him, and this actually makes him feel bad about himself; he has his own self esteem issues, and when unnattractive women constantly crack on to him, it makes him think that this is because HE is actually not very attractive ( otherwise, why would very unnatractive women think they had a shot?) Without being nasty, lets face it; it is rare for a person to flirt with or make a move on a person, if the person is clearly out of their league. Yet it happens to some people, like Steve, and it makes them annoyed that very overweight people think they are at his level. Because he works out and takes care of himself and regards himself as more attractive than an overweight, unnapealing women. Life is way harder when you are unnattractive, but plenty of unnapealing looking people have great lives and learn to love life, even though they will never have the trappings of hot men and the joys of a fit body. My Aunt is quiet over weight yet has a great husband and 5 kids, and has had a very full life. So try not to get to hung up over not being able to be with people who are great to look at; being goo d looking makes life easier in some ways, because attractive people do not have to work to get admiring glances from people. I am still comming to terms with this, I get upset that I am not having great sex with a bunch of hot men. But it is what it is.
Mad Max Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 I am still comming to terms with this, I get upset that I am not having great sex with a bunch of hot men. But it is what it is. Life isn't about having sex with the hottest people. I don't need to validate myself by having sex with the hottest women. I'm not about to risk my health and I'd prefer to be in a relationship.
Els Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 I don't know. If your first and only standard for a relationship is that the girl must be 'hot and beautiful', you are probably doomed to failure anyway, EVEN if you get one.
Leigh 87 Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 Mad Max - I know what you mean about being born normal or unnatractive, and improving as you age. I had malformed, very yellow teeth, and was chubby. I have had braces, twice, and had my teeth whitened, and have educated myself on how to eat a clean diet and I also have found the right physical activity to suit my body. I am not 115 lbs and 5 '5 wuth a good figure ( albiet, not model perfect). I am not the nicest person, however, I just do not have it in me to be indifferent and nasty towards people who are not attractive. Like Steve ( the poster " surrealist") stated though, if people who are, for insstance, lacking in intelligence, swear a lot, or who are unnatractive all hit on you, you wonder why good people, who are smart and decent, ar enot noticing you?
Mad Max Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 Mad Max - I know what you mean about being born normal or unnatractive, and improving as you age. I had malformed, very yellow teeth, and was chubby. I have had braces, twice, and had my teeth whitened, and have educated myself on how to eat a clean diet and I also have found the right physical activity to suit my body. I am not 115 lbs and 5 '5 wuth a good figure ( albiet, not model perfect). I am not the nicest person, however, I just do not have it in me to be indifferent and nasty towards people who are not attractive. Like Steve ( the poster " surrealist") stated though, if people who are, for insstance, lacking in intelligence, swear a lot, or who are unnatractive all hit on you, you wonder why good people, who are smart and decent, ar enot noticing you? I wasn't quite referring to what you mentioned. I was just referring to being average looking and nothing special. In my case, that changed once I hit 20 when I stopped growing and started to fill out. I've been hit on by attractive and unattractive people, young and older. Regardless of the individual, I've never been obnoxious or arrogant.
Leigh 87 Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 I wasn't quite referring to what you mentioned. I was just referring to being average looking and nothing special. In my case, that changed once I hit 20 when I stopped growing and started to fill out. I've been hit on by attractive and unattractive people, young and older. Regardless of the individual, I've never been obnoxious or arrogant. Well I was born very unnatractive, and changed it. Now Iam some what attractive, to some people ( but not every one). It is good to hear there are people like you who are not nasty towards thsoe who are not blessed with great looks. As much as I venerate looks ( I am a very visual person, which is why I have had an eating disorder for the past 4 years), I just cannot bring myself to be mean towards some one based on their looks. I have to treat every person with the same amount of respect. I remember when I was younger, and I would hide in my own hosue for days, and weeks at a time, because I had bad skin; I would dream about having clear skin, and being beautiful. I would never subject unnattractive people to nasty behaviour simply based on their looks. It is so unfair.
dispatch3d Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 Nobody likes to be treated badly. I can agree with that. But I don't think people should have unreasonable expectations either. I expect the mega model guy to treat me politely. I don't expect him to ask me out. Meh. I kinda lose interest somewhere between hot and model-hot. Maybe it's a self esteem issue I have, maybe not. From what I think my prospective is, at some point they are just showing off! Haha I kid, that's not my perspective, but I feel like there was too much seriousness in that. Anyways. Some people who are good looking make it their sort of identity. That never really interests me. If it's not their identity then meh. I'm not sure I have a point, because I was going to argue what you said then realize I would be arguing semantics at best. Carry on!
hydorclops Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 Mad Max: Most people that are that good looking aren't the nicest people in the world. Jazzari: I have a few male actor friends and one who is also a model. They are all wonderful. But I admit, my experience is pretty limited. I don't know any female models or actresses. I've met hundreds of male and female models from LA and New York. Virtually none of them seemed stuck up. The things I've read about good looking people is that among other things, they are better socialized as they grow up. They get more attention from teachers and others. Much of this extra attention is good for them. My idea isn't so much about hotness as it is about appeal. Being appealing to the opposite sex, which includes good looks, but also other personality traits, gets you a better relationship. I hate the number scale, but if you're really a 3 or 4 in general appeal, you often end up in a bad or difficult relationship. Good looking people have more options and have more chances to choose better relationships. I think this is just one example of the world being unfair. Not much you can do about it. Being alone isn't worse than a bad relationship. People would be happier if they believed that.
stillafool Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 There was this one woman, on a dating site, no joke...she said she spent a few months in Beverly Hills, and now is back home...and now expects good looking guys to email her, and that unattractive men should not. What does spending time in Beverly Hills have to do with looks? I've spent lots of time there and there are butt ugly people there too.
counterman Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 I think you should go for what you like. You learn from your experiences. I have tried to ask hot girls out before (well, I thought they were hot back then). They were really nice, but my experience is limited. However, I noticed that it wasn't necessary my appearance, though I can never be sure, being the reason I was rejected. It was more so my hesitation in not asking them out directly and being nervous. On the contrary, I have seen hot girls treat guys they find unattractive like scum of the Earth, which is just my experience (not saying it's only hot girls, but guys too). It's a bit sad. I wouldn't bother with those type of people.
jane100 Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 I think the best looking people are the nicest. It's the ones who do not have confidence in themselves or their looks that have all the defenses and walls. They are not comfortable enough to just be themselves without needing to try and prove something, and THAT is the most unattractive thing of all. Amazingly true ... if only young people realised this ...
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